Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Multiple reports hinting Keenan Allen as a potential cap casualty due to Chargers cap situation. Would be a solid WR opposite of Diggs, having two of the best route runners in the NFL. Probably will get paid more than we want to pay if he's released, but an intriguing situation nonetheless. https://theathletic.com/4154672/2023/02/06/chargers-keenan-allen-salary-cap-casualty/ Edited February 6, 2023 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine 2 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Misses time every year with hamstring injury 3 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Yuck. Allen is solid. We need a playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Need a younger WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, nucci said: Misses time every year with hamstring injury Prior to this year, he missed two games in five years. Not advocating one way or the other, just putting it out there. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Prior to this year, he missed two games in five years. Not advocating one way or the other, just putting it out there. Yep, He's a really good player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Draft the Center from Minnesota Sign Keenan Allen. If they could pull off these 2 things and only these 2 things, the off season would be a massive success. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 He is already 30. Yeah, we might be able to get a couple of good seasons out of him. I'd rather have Jakobi Meyers, though. Or a high drafted rookie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Allen is really polished. He'd be a great signing for the right money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Bills have the same cap space (less than zero) as the Chargers. Why wouldn't he be a "casualty" here? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 41 minutes ago, nucci said: Misses time every year with hamstring injury I'd rather spin the wheels on Michael Thomas if that's the case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 Here are his stats for reference from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleKe00.htm. Yes his hamstring caused missed games this year, but he was on pace for a Pro Bowl type year based on his 2017-2021 run. Again, not advocating one way or the other, just putting information out there if we are seeking an alternative to a WR opposite of Diggs. Allen is a known as one of the best route runners in the NFL and would help reduce double teaming of Diggs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Will he sign for -$20,000,000? 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 He's gonna go to KC and play with Mahomes, replace JuJu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I would sign him. Don't need him to be a star, just need him to be a solid #2. Also we need our coaches and medical staff to manage him in a way where he is healthy for the playoffs. I felt that was the plan for Von, it just sadly went south unexpectedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 The Bills created a situation where they spent liberally on UFAs, then didn't draft a replacement for those types, and now find themselves with cap issues and few options. WR is a perfect example. When they signed Brown in Beasley to 3 and 4 year deals respectively, they should have simultaneously planned to replace them. But they didn't, and we're back to needing WR help. Or, they'll sign Emanuel Sanders to a 1 year deal and then just assume Davis will step up. Really poor personnel planning. Need to start drafting better...on offense especially. No to a veteran UFA who is looking at a moderate sized contract at 2 or 3 years unless they're going to draft someone high as well who can step in if the veteran falters. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 They're not going to block Davis. Far more likely to draft a WR to develop and compete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills have the same cap space (less than zero) as the Chargers. Why wouldn't he be a "casualty" here? Because he has a $15.5 million salary with the Chargers in 2023, plus some prorated cap bonuses for a total cap charge in 2023 of $21.7 million for the Chargers. If he becomes a cap casualty and the Chargers cut him (not saying they will but whatever), they save $14.8 million in cap space in 2023. Allen becomes an unrestricted free agent who will. at the age of 30, presumably sign a new contract for a cap charge much lower than the $21.7 million the Chargers are strapped with. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, Tuco said: Because he has a $15.5 million salary with the Chargers in 2023, plus some prorated cap bonuses for a total cap charge in 2023 of $21.7 million for the Chargers. If he becomes a cap casualty and the Chargers cut him (not saying they will but whatever), they save $14.8 million in cap space in 2023. Allen becomes an unrestricted free agent who will. at the age of 30, presumably sign a new contract for a cap charge much lower than the $21.7 million the Chargers are strapped with. I get why the Chargers want him off the books. I don't see how he signs anywhere for less than 15 mil a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills_88 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Can we stop with the old band aides and continue to draft younger and healthier WR's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 This is the exact move I think the Bills should make and I think they will if they can make room. Beane likes proven Wide Receivers like Beasley, Diggs, Brown, Emmanuel Sanders that he can plug & play immediately. This gives them more flexibility in the draft for offensive line. With a plug & play guy, they don’t have to worry about the growing pains of a rookie WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: This is the exact move I think the Bills should make and I think they will if they can make room. Beane likes proven Wide Receivers like Beasley, Diggs, Brown, Emmanuel Sanders that he can plug & play immediately. This gives them more flexibility in the draft for offensive line. With a plug & play guy, they don’t have to worry about the growing pains of a rookie WR. He's probably going to want at $15M per and may very well want a multiyear deal. That's exactly what we can't have and Beane has said as much for next season. Signing high priced FA's is not a sustainable or a wise model for building a team. The Bills need to develop players through the draft that are on rookie contracts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Good wideout who most likely still gets a paid a pretty good salary to play. Would bet Carolina, Philadelphia, or Detroit if he is released. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Solid shifty slot WR that knows how to read holes in the zone and get open. Great hands but not a lot of top end speed. I would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 When healthy, he's a fantastic player. If he's available, a lot of teams will want him - and teams w/ more cap space than we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Billl said: Will he sign for -$20,000,000? I think you mean, "on the cheap." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, MJS said: He is already 30. Yeah, we might be able to get a couple of good seasons out of him. I'd rather have Jakobi Meyers, though. Or a high drafted rookie. How old do you think Diggs is? Just playing devils advocate. Although, this man is hurt every year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Process said: Yuck. Allen is solid. We need a playmaker. Allen > Davis 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Need a younger WR. Draft one 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'd rather spin the wheels on Michael Thomas if that's the case Allen misses games. Thomas misses seasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 There will probably have a high bidding war for him but he's been around long enough and made a lot of money so I could see him going to a contender on a cheap deal. But most likely he can go to a contender on an expensive deal. Would absolutely love to have him here. Obviously the preference is you can draft the right guy and you get a stud #2 WR on a cheap contact but just not sure we'll get that guy where we are picking and with what the FO tends to do in the draft. But if you could get him and then take O Line with your first 2 picks plus a cheap veteran, you've solved two big holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 He's going to get overpaid somewhere, and I really doubt it's here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I get why the Chargers want him off the books. I don't see how he signs anywhere for less than 15 mil a year. No thank you. We have to create cap room as it is. I'm not paying $15 mil to an injury prone 30 yo WR. $5 mil ... sure. $15 mil ... no freaking way. Draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd round and sign a lower price veteran WR who can play on the outside to push Gabe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: How old do you think Diggs is? Just playing devils advocate. Although, this man is hurt every year Diggs is 29. So yeah, I would expect to get about 3 more good years out of him. Keenan Allen I would expect to get 2, but he is hurt more often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Let's get him. He can play 2 snaps the opening game, tear a hammy and a be out 12 weeks. Let's Goooo 3 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Here are his stats for reference from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleKe00.htm. Yes his hamstring caused missed games this year, but he was on pace for a Pro Bowl type year based on his 2017-2021 run. Again, not advocating one way or the other, just putting information out there if we are seeking an alternative to a WR opposite of Diggs. Allen is a known as one of the best route runners in the NFL and would help reduce double teaming of Diggs. I didn't realize he had 66 catches and he missed like 8 weeks Edited February 6, 2023 by Buffalo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Need a younger WR. We need a Chase/ Waddle young speed wr on a 5 yr rookie contract. Players like Hopkins or Allen don't interest me anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Cannot afford him, and after all these years in SoCal, I would venture to guess that coming to WNY is not high on his list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: We need a Chase/ Waddle young speed wr on a 5 yr rookie contract. Players like Hopkins or Allen don't interest me anymore. I mean we won’t get that but we need to hit on a rookie contract WR that can develop into a top 2 WR. I don’t think we can expect a late 1 or 2 round WR to impact much next year. We might have to sign a WR with talent that has upside. Someone in the $8-10 million range who has upside as a WR2 this upcoming season. A DJ Chark possibly. Make the 1st year cap hit low. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Can't afford him, could probably sign 2 above average lineman for what he'll want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I thought OBJ was going to sign here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Older WR who is also made out of glass. He's only played all 16 games in a season in four out of his 10 seasons. I want a speedy dude like Waddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: Let's get him. He can play 2 snaps the opening game, tear a hammy and a be out 12 weeks. Let's Goooo I didn't realize he had 66 catches and he missed like 8 weeks Out 12 games? Lol, that's more missed games than he's had in the last 6 seasons combined. That being said, a hard pass on Keenan, we don't need more old players. We need to get players who are younger and cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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