John from Riverside Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I’ve heard musings of this before, but today was the first time that I actually heard it on one bills live at the bills are planning to move Christian Benford to safety Thoughts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Yes please. Benford's RAS score was near perfect for safety, and we saw how good his athleticism looked at CB. Benford could be nice in the Poyer role in 2023. I would like the Bills to make a major youth movement at certain positions it will need to happen and happen fast. Hyde has one more year, but if I'm the Bills I'm finding another small school diamond who can be this years Benford, and pair them come 2024. PS - I'm writing this assuming Hamlin is not given medical clearance to return or decides to retire. We don't know the long-term prognosis on Hamlin returning to the field for 2023, or beyond. I do love Hamlin and his fearlessness when attmpting a tackle. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Hulka Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Don't they have to hire a new safeties coach first? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Me likes this happening if they are exploring it. Could be a good fit long-term 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I agree with it. Have said it multiple times myself. Then grab another late rnd CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: PS - I'm writing this assuming Hamlin is not given medical clearance to return or decides to retire. We don't know the long-term prognosis on Hamlin returning to the field for 2023, or beyond. I do love Hamlin and his fearlessness when attmpting a tackle. Hamlin will be back. Bet that. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 It looks like he can be a serviceable CB, if they think he can be a Hyde type and go to near elite at S, that’s awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 He's got similar size to Poyer. Is considered a ballhawk and touted for his physicality. Would make a lot of sense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I was clamoring for him to get time at Safety half the season. Even with with only a week of reps, he couldn't have been as bad as Jaquon Johnson. I think he'll make a very good Safety with a full offseason to prep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, StHustle said: Hamlin will be back. Bet that. With all respect to Hamlin, he won’t make our team better. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Hyde and Benford will be the starting safeties next season. I’d bet on it 1 hour ago, StHustle said: Hamlin will be back. Bet that. I hope he is. He’s decent depth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 can he play Tackle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, 947 said: I was clamoring for him to get time at Safety half the season. Even with with only a week of reps, he couldn't have been as bad as Jaquon Johnson. I think he'll make a very good Safety with a full offseason to prep. I was clamoring for it on the day they drafted him! On draft day, Beane said it would be easier to start him at CB and move him to safety. They needed to do this in camp, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: With all respect to Hamlin, he won’t make our team better. I had a couple of thoughts/questions on Hamlin. 1. Will he be allowed back to play? Its seems very risky for him to play football ever again after that freaky injury and near death experience and I wonder if the Bills or any team would want that risk. 2. Hamlin seemed like a decent talent but nothing special before his injury. Oddly Just before he got hurt, I was frustrated he got burned by the Bengals pass attack in that game. I went back and looked at his stats, they are very ordinary. So his impact on the team wasnt huge and I guess if he didnt play again, it wouldnt matter that much? Or is that too harsh a conclusion on such a small sample size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Lotta smoke about him becoming the SS next year and I’d love it. McDermott also loves when Safeties have played CB or know the position well. Helps with spacing and disguising coverage. As long as we’re running McDermott’s defense and he’s calling the shots next year, I’m nearly certain Benford will at least get a crack at it. His tackling at the CB position was awesome. My only concern is pursuit angles from SS. There could be some learning moments in the early season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Sargent Hulka said: Don't they have to hire a new safeties coach first? Yes, need a new scapegoat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: With all respect to Hamlin, he won’t make our team better. Correct, he'll hit the piss out of you but is often caught taking terrible angles and out of position. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Yes! I can totally see it. We're pretty set at corner if Tre gets back to form - Elam on the other side, Johnson in the slot. Benford is talented, a real late-round find & has the physicality to play safety. Then, we can let Poyer walk (hate to say that, as he's one of my faves, but it's the smart business move), and not have to expend draft capital to fill that void. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: With all respect to Hamlin, he won’t make our team better. I agree. Damar was a nice short-term replacement for Micah but he's not a starter. I think Benford would make a great strong safety. Wasn't thrilled with the idea of Tre transitioning to S. Micah will be ready to go by September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, RiotAct said: can he play Tackle? I am so relieved to hear that. It used to be “Can he play Quaterback?” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, StHustle said: Hamlin will be back. Bet that. He was absolutely awful in coverage and missed his fair share of tackles. Upgrading safety is a must. I’m not sure Benford is enough to make you say “we are all set.” 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve heard musings of this before, but today was the first time that I actually heard it on one bills live at the bills are planning to move Christian Benford to safety Thoughts? Honestly I'd be a little surprised if it's not at least tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 What did they say? Was it just speculation, or was there some mention of it by coaches or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Benford looks promising based on his brevity of work. But forecasting him in any set role is stretching it a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 It makes some sense assuming Buffalo thinks they have starters on the roster at CB - namely Kaiir Elam Tre White and Johnson. It's pretty clear that when both Hyde and Poyer are on the field the Bills get elite play out of their safeties. It's just as clear that when one of them is out, the Bills get inadequate play out of all their backup players at safety. If the Bills think they can get starter quality play out of Benford at safety, it reduces the urgency of drafting a replacement for Poyer should it be impractical to re-sign him. If the Bills do re-sign Poyer, Benford would still give quality depth and avoid the drop-off in play they had this year. They have a better record of finding quality CBs in the draft than safeties. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 185 pounds on wiki, but 208 on ESPN. The correct figure will have a lot to do with the answer. Nothing's impossible, and he's certainly smart enough, but my guess is no. Edited January 28, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Yeah I don't think Benford is fast enough where you could play him in man coverage at corner more than part time so I'm all for the idea. He has shown good tackling fundamentals so I'm optimistic this could be a good move. I also expect a safety drafted somewhere as this is supposed to be a pretty good class. Yeah I don't think Benford is fast enough where you could play him in man coverage at corner more than part time so I'm all for the idea. He has shown good tackling fundamentals so I'm optimistic this could be a good move. I also expect a safety drafted somewhere as this is supposed to be a pretty good class. I'm gonna get the papers get the papers. Edited January 28, 2023 by TheBeaneBandit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: 185 pounds on wiki, but 208 on ESPN. The correct figure will have a lot to do with the answer. Nothing's impossible, and he's certainly smart enough, but my guess is no. Bills site says 205, so I would go with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Sargent Hulka said: Don't they have to hire a new safeties coach first? Nah, just give Benford this: 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Good idea. One or the other of our Pro-Bowl caliber Safeties will not be back, and it seems to me Benford has Safety-like tools. Concerning the present roster, he looks like the most valid candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 12 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve heard musings of this before, but today was the first time that I actually heard it on one bills live at the bills are planning to move Christian Benford to safety Thoughts? This is just proof that Beane and McDermott read the stadium wall, guys here were way ahead of the curve on this one, 😁👍 Now maybe they will get the O-line taken care of too, 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Yes then White to safety in 2024 to replace Hyde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Do it. Going to need to save some money somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 13 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said: He's got similar size to Poyer. Is considered a ballhawk and touted for his physicality. Would make a lot of sense. comes down to Hamlin, Marlowe or Benford and I will take Benford with a training camp at the position and year in the secondary under his belt, plus saves money under the salary cap...no drafted rookie is going to start for the Bills if they can help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 14 hours ago, StHustle said: Hamlin will be back. Bet that. I wouldn’t bet it (partly because I don’t gamble), but if he does return it would not completely shock me. Maybe we’ll hear more in the coming months to shed some light on that possibility. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go sign up for medical school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 There's the possibility that at this point we don't have any Safeties on our roster. Poyer likely gets more than we can afford to pay elsewhere. Though his injury filled season may lower his value on the market. Marlowe and Johnson are free agents Hyde and Hamlin may never play again because of medical conditions Neal was used at Safety before being moved to CB. He could be a candidate to move back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: There's the possibility that at this point we don't have any Safeties on our roster. Poyer likely gets more than we can afford to pay elsewhere. Though his injury filled season may lower his value on the market. Marlowe and Johnson are free agents Hyde and Hamlin may never play again because of medical conditions Neal was used at Safety before being moved to CB. He could be a candidate to move back. Hyde was possibly ready to be back for tomorrow's game if the Bills made it. Another 6 months (to training camp) and he should definitely be good to go, barring any unforeseen complications/events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: Hyde was possibly ready to be back for tomorrow's game if the Bills made it. Another 6 months (to training camp) and he should definitely be good to go, barring any unforeseen complications/events. It's possible Hyde will be back and I hope he is, but after having Vertebra fused in his neck, or whatever they did, I wouldn't go into the season expecting him to be the player he was, if he plays at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 16 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve heard musings of this before, but today was the first time that I actually heard it on one bills live at the bills are planning to move Christian Benford to safety Thoughts? McDermott said it was a consideration in his end-of-season presser on Monday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 16 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve heard musings of this before, but today was the first time that I actually heard it on one bills live at the bills are planning to move Christian Benford to safety Thoughts? I didn't think it was a definite PLAN . He played well when he got an opportunity so I wonder if they leave him at CB to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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