Einstein Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Ouch. “Guys were exhausted during the week and our coaches did the best they could try to modify the week . . . but there was just uncharacteristic things that were kind of happening . . . I have to kind of put that into effect and not as an excuse just this team has been fighting for so long and fighting through all of this adversity you almost run out of gas at some point,” Saffold said https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/23/rodger-saffold-on-bills-loss-you-almost-run-out-of-gas-at-some-point/ 9 3 2 1 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 It was pretty easy to see. I've gotta give 'em a pass on that. They're human beings. Buffalo has been to hell & back over the past year. 11 1 4 16 29 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Exactly what I said with so many people trying to say that isn't it. You could simply see it from the first drive on both sides of the ball. They had nothing. Edited January 23, 2023 by Big Turk 3 1 2 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Whatever other factors contributed, I'm sure this is at least part of the issue. As long as there isn't a tell all that comes out later saying they were all up drinking and puking their guts out Saturday night, i'm willing to chalk this up to a confluence of unforseen events. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Waaaahhh. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out the door. Go run out of gas somewhere else next year. Edited January 23, 2023 by LabattBlue 7 2 5 2 4 9 3 6 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 It looked as if this was part of our problem yesterday. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I can believe it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Einstein said: Ouch. “Guys were exhausted during the week and our coaches did the best they could try to modify the week . . . but there was just uncharacteristic things that were kind of happening . . . I have to kind of put that into effect and not as an excuse just this team has been fighting for so long and fighting through all of this adversity you almost run out of gas at some point,” Saffold said https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/23/rodger-saffold-on-bills-loss-you-almost-run-out-of-gas-at-some-point/ What a bunch of horseshit. (not directed to you, Einstein) 7 1 1 2 15 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Yeah I do think that played a part. They did look emotionally drained. But to be Honest Saffold everything we saw yesterday was there ALL Season just wasnt exploited in a way the Bengals worked us. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhh9327 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Exactly what I said with so many people trying to say that isn't it. You really think this team beats Cinci if this game happened two months ago? I honestly don't. I'm not saying the emotional toll didn't play any factor yesterday, but this was a flawed team that has been showing those flaws for quite a while and Cinci is designed well to take advantage of those. 8 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: But to be Honest Saffold everything we saw yesterday was there ALL Season Saffold was a bad signing from the start. Beane needs to stop building a line from the scrap heap. 8 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Earlier in the year Josh was running guys over and getting up laughing in their face. We haven't seen that guy in a while. Something has been off with this team for two months now. 13 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 diggs wasn't, he was fired up when guys had their heads down. so, buffalo was a hot item this offseason, we saw on tape miller talk to his dad about joining in order to chase a ring on a 3rd team. i think miller figured, ok this is my best shot at more glory. once the going got tough, the team started to lose focus and energy, all the emotional crap w hamlin, the neutral site stuff, our team lost focus. thats on the coaches as much as anyone else. our team has a toughness problem. 5 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Cut. GTFOH. You're a professional football player in a divisional playoff game at home. Your crowd ain't out of money to blow on your garbage effort. 7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Then give some of your paycheck back if you were out of gas. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 …..certainly looked like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Einstein said: Ouch. “Guys were exhausted during the week and our coaches did the best they could try to modify the week . . . but there was just uncharacteristic things that were kind of happening . . . I have to kind of put that into effect and not as an excuse just this team has been fighting for so long and fighting through all of this adversity you almost run out of gas at some point,” Saffold said https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/23/rodger-saffold-on-bills-loss-you-almost-run-out-of-gas-at-some-point/ Saffold is one of the last guys I want to hear from. The dude looked like a friggin' turnstyle yesterday. He's looked bad all year and hasn't remotely earned what we paid him to come here. Now he says he wants to stay. Hard pass. And if they can't get up for a game that's 2 away from a SB, then that's on them and the coaching staff. 6 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Curious what he meant by "there was just uncharacteristic things that were kind of happening" - sounds like in this quote he was referring to the week specifically - not necessarily all the other stuff that had happened prior The players are on record that the events of the year contributed to an overall level of "exhaustion" - but this seems like something specific was going on last week Edited January 23, 2023 by stevewin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Saffold was a bad signing from the start. Beane needs to stop building a line from the scrap heap. I'm hoping Doyle pushes Brown for the RT spot. But we need an influx of young cheap talent on the oline via the top 3 rounds of the draft. draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Well, we know Roger was clearly out of gas based on his play yesterday. I do believe there is a truth in there. Everything was hard this year - basically from the moment that Hyde and Dane Jackson were injured during the second half of week 2 (let's not forget that was a very scary situation at the time) and then it was one unfortunate event after another. I believe the Hamlin thing was likely the straw that finally broke the camel's back, but we were probably heading for a blowout in Cincy on MNF and yesterday's early exit regardless. What you saw yesterday was a joyless, defeated, husk of a team that looked as if they were being forced to show up for another week of work, instead of a pumped, excited bunch of guys looking forward to a great opportunity. 4 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Bad look. Three years in a row we've ended the season in similar fashion without making it to the Super Bowl. There's some validity here... nobody wants to hear it, and any player echoing it should be embarrassed in doing so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The Hamlin incident was very stressful and I'm sure had a big effect on the team. If you need to some time off that's understandable but he survived and is ok. He was even at the game. Not a great excuse for yesterday 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, stevewin said: Curious what he meant by "there was just uncharacteristic things that were kind of happening" - sounds like he was referring to the week specifically - not all the other stuff that had happened prior Maybe the team ate some bad oysters or something and don't want to look for excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) At the end of the day I have to put that on McDermott. They have dealt with a ton of adversity and he has held it together, but in the end it wasn't enough. Is the roster too old? too young? IDK, it did seem like they were sleepwalking, but these guys are supposed to be professionals. They need to be held accountable. Bengals dealt with ridiculous injuries and it was next man up. Hubbard and Hendrickson have been playing hurt most of the year and the Oline was in shambles. Scrap heap OL dudes playing and making it happen. McDermott always talked about humble and hungry. I did not see that with the Bills, I saw it with the Bengals. They were hungry and had something to prove. (not so humble) Edited January 23, 2023 by MrEpsYtown 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astb41 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 If Allen doesn’t fumble vs Vikings or Allen hits McKenize for the go ahead TD in Miami, we get the bye and a week off and maybe things are different 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Waaaahhh. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out the door. Go run out of gas somewhere else next year. Ohh they will, and we'll be left with pieces of what once was... they went through a TON of crap this season and they aren't robots. Garbage take. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 They can spare me with this stuff. You played one fewer game than virtually everyone else. You were at home. You showed no heart whatsoever. There's something weird going on with this team mentally, and it has nothing to do with Hamlin or blizzards. Tough to put my finger on, but it's there. Wonder if there's some type of infighting we're unaware of. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, astb41 said: If Allen doesn’t fumble vs Vikings or Allen hits McKenize for the go ahead TD in Miami, we get the bye and a week off and maybe things are different yes, we lose the chip game after sneaking one over jaxonville instead of miami. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, colin said: diggs wasn't, he was fired up when guys had their heads down. so, buffalo was a hot item this offseason, we saw on tape miller talk to his dad about joining in order to chase a ring on a 3rd team. i think miller figured, ok this is my best shot at more glory. once the going got tough, the team started to lose focus and energy, all the emotional crap w hamlin, the neutral site stuff, our team lost focus. thats on the coaches as much as anyone else. our team has a toughness problem. What about our defensive coach especially, fires these guys up? He literally just kept playing the same defense after they got up by 14. They didn't force a 3rd down until the 3rd drive. Yes that's on the players to but old Leslie didn't help out at all by trying anything different. Let's just back off every receiver that has any sort of skill in this league time and time again. I'm sorry his time is up on this team. Hopefully Bean and McDermott have the testicular fortitude to make a change, a needed change none the less. Edited January 23, 2023 by BillzFreak 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Einstein said: Ouch. “Guys were exhausted during the week and our coaches did the best they could try to modify the week . . . but there was just uncharacteristic things that were kind of happening . . . I have to kind of put that into effect and not as an excuse just this team has been fighting for so long and fighting through all of this adversity you almost run out of gas at some point,” Saffold said https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/23/rodger-saffold-on-bills-loss-you-almost-run-out-of-gas-at-some-point/ Quote Saffold said players “haven’t been able to take a breath since the Damar situation” in reference to safety Damar Hamlin going into cardiac arrest during the team’s Week 17 game in Cincinnati and it was clear that the situation took a toll on the Bills emotionally over the last few weeks. They’ll have a chance to catch their breath now, but it will be a long time before they’ll get a chance to show that they’ve regained their footing on the field. Frankly, I wondered at the time if the team weren't kind of flogging it too much to hand out #3 pendants and bring Hamlin into the locker room. It obviously was a lift to the team's spirits to know that Hamlin was mentally OK, but he's physically weak as hell right now. Showing him to the Bills team right before they faced a rematch with the team that (however fluky) put him in that debilitated condition, may not have been the best inspirational move. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 If true even more of indictment of this coaching staff and being soft. Yes they have been through a lot, but the there has been chatter of being soft for a few years. McD does not have the killer instinct or scheme needed to win it all. This is Allen ball or bust. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Ohh they will, and we'll be left with pieces of what once was... they went through a TON of crap this season and they aren't robots. Garbage take. I am talking about Saffold. You want him back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Exhausted? Like sick? I guess that would make sense they all played like they had covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, LabattBlue said: I am talking about Saffold. You want him back? He was talking about the whole team though... I want them to replace as many of them as they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I think the Damar pre-game visit to the locker room had the opposite than desired effect. It sobered them up and chilled out their athletic drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ngbills said: If true even more of indictment of this coaching staff and being soft. Yes they have been through a lot, but the there has been chatter of being soft for a few years. McD does not have the killer instinct or scheme needed to win it all. This is Allen ball or bust. I will add that doesn't mean he needs to go. But his OC and DC better be guys that bring some energy and carry some weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Patrick Fitzryan said: They can spare me with this stuff. You played one fewer game than virtually everyone else. You were at home. You showed no heart whatsoever. There's something weird going on with this team mentally, and it has nothing to do with Hamlin or blizzards. Tough to put my finger on, but it's there. Wonder if there's some type of infighting we're unaware of. Great take. Agree 100%. Boggles the mind that mentally, they weren't up for this game. If Hamlin had died, or was still in a coma, then maybe that would have been a *good* excuse. As it was, they had Hamlin on hand yesterday to inspire them. The reality is that this team has not been playing championship football for a couple months now, and they finally got exposed by a very good team. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: I am talking about Saffold. You want him back? Heck no. Nobody should. He looked terrible most of the season and yesterday he was an embarrassment to the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Einstein said: Ouch. “Guys were exhausted during the week and our coaches did the best they could try to modify the week . . . but there was just uncharacteristic things that were kind of happening . . . I have to kind of put that into effect and not as an excuse just this team has been fighting for so long and fighting through all of this adversity you almost run out of gas at some point,” Saffold said https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/23/rodger-saffold-on-bills-loss-you-almost-run-out-of-gas-at-some-point/ Utter BS. They are professional athletes with a week between games to get un-emotionally-drained. Plus this wasn't some meaningless game, if was the freaking playoffs ... AT HOME for gods sake. The Bengals out GM'd (players), coached, and played the Bills and as much is it may sting, it's really as simple as that. Making or accepting excuses isn't going to help. I'm not a "fire everyone" person, but the Bills organization needs to recognize the situation before it can be corrected. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Lands squarely on McDermott and his coaching staff. They'll tread him out next year with a similar result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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