Gunsgoodtime Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, White Linen said: Josh deserves a system like Burrow and Mahomes have. Couldn't agree more. If this coaching staff goes hard on Defense this draft I will totally be on the fire them train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Bills are weak team on both sides of the ball. Cincinnati is far far better than Buffalo. Not even close 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 This d line has 4 1st rounders and 3 2nd rounders. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 What a weird interaction between Burrow and Allen… Allen had a bit to say. Burrow has zero reaction and nothing to say. But immediately walks away? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 First real “loss” this year. First time I felt they were beat down and outplayed. From start to finish. Bengals had better game plan for the weather. Run hard and short swing passes. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Trekking said: Fire Frazier already Too me, this is why NFL teams will not hire Frazier as a head coach in the end. He doesn't seem to get it done when it matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 How can you feel at all like this gets better? You never even came close to stopping that team. Fraizer is an absolute ***** disgrace. All year this defense was horrible. Should have been fired last year after 13 seconds. Run it back with this guys and it’s just a complete waste of time. The Offense has to play perfect every game because this defense is terrible. Every physical team dominates us and this guy never changes what he does. It’s long since been figured out. For the love of god fire this guy tomorrow. Please 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Cinci was better. I’m rooting for them to go all the way. I hope they crush the Chiefs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, davefan66 said: Game was over WAY before that int. Agreed, but the last play - well, almost last play - was an interception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 They need changes on the field and on the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, White Linen said: Josh deserves a system like Burrow and Mahomes have. Josh deserves a coaching staff like Burrow and Mahomes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Well a bunch of heartbreakers in the playoffs didn’t motivate this team to breakthrough. They just aren’t good enough w personnel and coaching. A lot needs fixing, mostly OL/DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 It is always fun following the Bills and we will always be fans with higher expectations than what should be allowed. But it is entertainment after all, so there is that. The offseason should be interesting to say the least. I look forward to seeing how it all unfolds and how those of us here editorialize about it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Phils n Bills said: Pretenders of the year. Big changes needed. None coming. They’ll stick with “their guys” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Terrible coaching Terrible O-Line No true #2 WR No pass rush No interior D All of this focus and high draft picks spent on the defensive line who hasn't even had a sniff of the QB today against a back up filled offensive line. We are trying to play a defensive style that needs pressure on the QB to succeed and we are routinely getting blown off the ball. Look, as long as we have 17, we will be in the hunt to win a championship. We can easily be right back here in the same position 365 days from now with another opportunity, but man.......we have a lot of holes to fill and we could really use a philosophical change on how to play defense. This Frazier/McDermott scheme doesn't instill fear into anyone and while they can get away with playing this style against bad teams, they can't against good ones. There will be a lot of time to discuss things this off season, but my plans have certainly changed with how I am handling certain players. If it's me, Poyer, Oliver, and even Edmunds (I like him more than most people do) can go. No need to tie up big money in these players. While they may be better than those that end up replacing them, it won't be dramatic enough to justify the price difference and we're going to need the cap space to upgrade other spots. Go get a real #2 WR. Diggs is great and Shakir has shown enough promise to keep. Davis is fine to be on the team until he needs a new contract. Everyone else can go and we need to give Allen some real weapons with some speed. And, for the love of God, get some real offensive linemen in here. We have 2 good lineman in Dawkins and Morse, but the rest are barely backup level right now. Frazier has to be gone and a new system needs to be in place before next season. Beane is on the spot and there is a lot of work to do. But many things that need to be done are obvious. While we won't exactly be underdogs necessarily next season, we won't be favorites either. It's going to be back to Buffalo vs The World and that's the way it should be. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Burrow and Mahomes play on teams that are much more complete than Josh Allen does. Too many undeveloped, underperforming players despite all the investments. We've got barely a handful of players that you could build around. They'll probably fire some scouts or position coaches as fallout, but the core coaching staff will be back. Sigh. I hated the Frazier hire when I first heard about it... he's here until we have a true disaster of a season or he quits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Mango said: What a weird interaction between Burrow and Allen… Allen had a bit to say. Burrow has zero reaction and nothing to say. But immediately walks away? I bet he said, “please beat the crap out of KC. Please, I beg you.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Pathetic to have it all end this way. There isn’t a single departing player I would bring back. Blow up the offensive line. Keep Groot, Jones, and Miller….lose the rest. I would bring in an offensive consultant to evaluate this season. Do we have a bad scheme or is Allen really playing hero ball? If no scheme, adjust our offense. Bring in new scouts. We cannot seem to evaluate lineman on either side of the ball. Haven’t drafted a pro bowl player in 4 years. McD gets 2 more years. If we don’t make a Super Bowl by then, we move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I would like the wE scOrEd 34 pOinTs crowd from last week to see themselves out so the rest of us can have an honest discussion about the state of the team. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Nator99 said: This is going to be an unpopular take but I think this team overplayed and thought the Damar Hamlin good vibes and nation love they were getting was somehow going to just automatically convert to a win. The team was flat unprepared and got its butt kicked. We were bullied in our own home today. There is simply no way around it. We needed to stop with the thoughts that we were just going to be handed a SB because of the painful and stressful times the organization went through with Damar. I love Damar and we are happy for his health but the team did NOT handle business and was thoroughly embarrassed today. I don’t want to hear any homers try and dispute this. Yeah, this train went on a bit too long. That said, I'm not sure if there was anything that could have been done about it. Once it happened, it happened. Obviously glad he's gonna be okay but hard not to wonder about what things would have been like had it not happened at all. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: Josh deserves a system like Burrow and Mahomes have. He won't play within it. That's the problem. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 A LOT of posters gave McD a pass for 13 secs…How’s that working out? McD will never win a chip, he gets outclassed on the regular. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidiehard Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Time for Beane to invest real draft capital into the Oline and receivers. We have so much invested into the D that let's us down in the biggest moments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I wouldn’t doubt Josh said you outcoached us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Game adjustments. When your coverage clearly isn't getting there you need to mix in some cb blitzes. You have to get there. Even not stopping the run you can mitigate a little bit if you shut down the pass but you can't keep rushing 4 and not getting there if you coverage is consistently getting beat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Coaching is not good enough. So much investment in the defense and they can't stop anyone when it matters. Offense doesn't play smart and doesn't play situational football. Other teams can be down to 3rd string QBs or without multiple starters on the line and totally dominate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Will be interesting to see if the powers that be consider this BEAT DOWN fitting of a coordinator change--maybe both. My guess is nothing will happen. What a bad taste in my mouth. Long off-season on the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Disgusting effort on both sides of the ball. There needs to be a massive overhaul in both the roster and coordinating staff. They won’t change a thing, and nothing will change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Hard to say where we go from here. That was beyond awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Well they pretty much ***** down their leg today. I donno what they need but they better figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) We need to focus on our lines on both sides of the ball this offseason. Allen was under a lot of pressure, and our front 4 couldn't do squat to a bunch of backups that the Bengals had out there. Look at the Eagles and 49ers as examples. If you have top lines in this league you win. But, I expected the Bills to lose this one based on momentum. We were not a consistent team the second half of the season, and it showed. The Bengals are likely going to win the SB this year, and Burrow looks like he's the second best QB in football after Mahomes, but he might be the best one if they win it all. Edited January 22, 2023 by Murdox 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: How can you feel at all like this gets better? You never even came close to stopping that team. Fraizer is an absolute ***** disgrace. All year this defense was horrible. Should have been fired last year after 13 seconds. Run it back with this guys and it’s just a complete waste of time. The Offense has to play perfect every game because this defense is terrible. Every physical team dominates us and this guy never changes what he does. It’s long since been figured out. For the love of god fire this guy tomorrow. Please Its McDermotts defense. Only firing Frazier won’t change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Can't wait for Frazier to "retire" in a few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, NUT said: Dorsey should have never been named OC. I know Allen wanted the same offense, but it just didn't work. Time to hire a legit OC who doesn't ignore the run game. I would love to get Frank Reich but I know it isn't happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Is anyone really surprised? This is who the Bills are. They are the lovable losers of sports. Same old Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ_BillsFan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Trekking said: Fire Frazier already It’s McDemetts defense. Frazier just coaches it. The philosophy doesn’t work. Zone was not going to work today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Byron leftwich was fired and he’s not nearly as bad as Dorsey or Frazier. These two need to go. I’ll give McD one more year, but he’s not untouchable. I mean The iggles fired their one coach that won them a superbowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, BB2004 said: Too me, this is why NFL teams will not hire Frazier as a head coach in the end. He doesn't seem to get it done when it matters. He’s ***** terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Disgusting effort on both sides of the ball. There needs to be a massive overhaul in both the roster and coordinating staff. Based on the salary cap, there will be inevitable changes on the roster. The problem will be McD looking at what NEEDS to be done to get more our of the position groups that annually underperform. I think Kromer needs another year, but Washington has to go. They need to have a better plan for the secondary. We cannot continue to play base zone when press man is needed against elite offenses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mango said: What a weird interaction between Burrow and Allen… Allen had a bit to say. Burrow has zero reaction and nothing to say. But immediately walks away? They play with fire and a chip on their shoulder. They're winners. We're nice guys. I want winners. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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