YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Greg S said: What if the Packers want to move on from Rodgers. They might be ready to go with Jordan Love. Could you imagine the media hype in the NYC area if the Jets were to try and get Rodgers. Jets have the team they just need the QB. Rodgers and the ny media would be awesome theater. I just want the jets in QB purgatory. Hope Wilson looks good this week so they contemplate giving him more time. He just might against the lions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: I guess that when you get folded like a suitcase one week, you probably shouldn’t play football the next week. Still amazed that he came back on the field after that hit from Milano. It's not a great look that he went back out into the game but isn't able to play in the following week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It's not a great look that he went back out into the game but isn't able to play in the following week. Where have we seen that before OH that’s right 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Bleedingreennc said: Great, and im going to this game. Zach will be 10-28 120 yards 0 TD 3 INts. Just wonderful. Why so optimistic? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: I think the problems with the Jets this year are two-fold: the team improved at a much faster pace than the QB and the QB lost the locker room. My guess is losing the locker room started last year but culminated with his atrocious game against the Pats and even worse his post-game press conference. At the point he was benched he was 5-2 with wins against the Bills and Dolphins and the losses to the Pats. I doubt the benching had anything to do with their remaining schedule. I'm also curious why you think the Jets needs to properly evaluate Garrett Wilson. Do you think they plan to move on from him after this year? If there's anyone that needs to be evaluated more it's Zach. It's a safe bet Wilson is a legit NFL WR, possibly even a star. What I meant was more in term of his development along with the rest of the Jets skill players who weren't being properly evaluated this year because of poor QB play. Unfortunately this was a problem the Bills had to deal with the greater part of 17 years prior to JA17, either having decent talent on the roster everywhere but QB. Or not being able to evaluate players because QB play was so bad. Getting back to the jets though, it's why I still think Mike White is a red herring either way. Even if he comes back next week and continues to put up numbers and play fairly well, they are still likely going to swing for the fences in FA or trade for a veteran (i.e. Aaron Rogers if available) because they likely believe they have enough talent on the roster to compete for the division and beyond next year. They were certainly in the conversation up until the last few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Greg S said: Here is what this Jets fan posted about our "dirty" Bills. "Watched the compressed game yesterday. NFL+ if you guys get it over in 45 minutes." Glad I don't need to "get it over in 45 minutes" when I'm watching my team play. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: why didn't he just find Tua's? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Mango said: The Jets are a good roster. Saleh seems to have improved that franchise. But I think they really botched the handling of this. I don't see how they aren't forced to try and get Wilson off the roster at this point. I mean, you might say starting him could be the best way to get him off the roster... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: I wouldn't bet on it either. If the Jets think they are a QB away from being a legit post-season team and that Zach is what's holding them back it wouldn't surprise me at all if they move on. Although in that case I do think they'd aim higher than Heinicke. I don't want to overstate it but I think Sunday is a very big game for Zach. If he starts out slow he will get torched by the fans in attendance. If he plays well and delivers a win he might be able to change the negative narrative. I just cannot see Zach Wilson's cap number being an obstacle if he keeps losing... I was thinking of someone they could price out decently instead of like a Rodgers, who would hinder them and would probably not be worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K-9 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Well, Mr. Saleh, that just may be the problem: Zach Wilson is the same QB he was in college but he is now in the NFL. He isn’t playing college scrubs any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Decision making! Lol. Only against the Bills I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Wiz said: "Decision making": Elaine Robinson, or Mrs. Robinson? 🤔 * 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: He threw for over 400 yards in his first start and beat the Bengals, who were a pretty good team last year. Hes a pretty good QB and a hell of a lot better than Wilson right now Then he got obliterated by the Bills. It’s pretty easy to shock a team when there is no tape on a quarterback. There is tape on him now. He may progress in time, but it’s just as likely that he has pretty much reached the level of his own incompetence. Edited December 16, 2022 by JDubya76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 White has fractured ribs and went to 10 doctors to try and get cleared to play and none of them would do it. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mike-white-fractured-rib-spoke-183957026.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Golden*Wheels said: Tough as nails, but even as a guy who hates the Jets, I felt they were really pushing it ethics-wise when he came back the 2nd time. Dude is lucky he still had a spleen. I'm sure it's what White wanted to do, but IMHO if a guy has to rush off the field to hop into an ambulance and go to the ER, he quite possibly should just Do It and not play the rest of the game first. 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said: White has fractured ribs and went to 10 doctors to try and get cleared to play and none of them would do it. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mike-white-fractured-rib-spoke-183957026.html 10 honest doctors I guess! Edited December 17, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, JDubya76 said: Then he got obliterated by the Bills. It’s pretty easy to shock a team when there is no tape on a quarterback. There is tape on him now. He may progress in time, but it’s just as likely that he has pretty much reached the level of his own incompetence. I thought he was playing pretty well last week before Oliver and Milano made his acquaintance - on a bad weather day he threw for 268 yards. "Reached the level of his own incompetence" feels like a reach to me. While I get your point about what the Bills did to him after his historic game against Cincy, I just don't get the rush to judgement - it's the easiest thing in the world to predict an NFL QB will never make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I thought he was playing pretty well last week before Oliver and Milano made his acquaintance - on a bad weather day he threw for 268 yards. "Reached the level of his own incompetence" feels like a reach to me. While I get your point about what the Bills did to him after his historic game against Cincy, I just don't get the rush to judgement - it's the easiest thing in the world to predict an NFL QB will never make it. He got destroyed last time he played the Bills also throwing 4 INTs. Maybe he should just be "sick" next time we play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Well I mean Josh Allen once was the famous idaho potatoe bowl MVP, take that for what it's worth lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: He got destroyed last time he played the Bills also throwing 4 INTs. Maybe he should just be "sick" next time we play. Yup, that happened two weeks after his big game against Cincy. He played well against us last week IMO - until the pounding we dealt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I'm sure it's what White wanted to do, but IMHO if a guy has to rush off the field to hop into an ambulance and go to the ER, he quite possibly should just Do It and not play the rest of the game first. 10 honest doctors I guess! They must not work for the NFL or the jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Yup, that happened two weeks after his big game against Cincy. He played well against us last week IMO - until the pounding we dealt out. Fear not Jets fans ... White will back soon enough - like next week after Wilson tanks the Lions game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Roy Hobbs said: Fear not Jets fans ... White will back soon enough - like next week after Wilson tanks the Lions game. I just hope you don't think I'm a Jets fan. I just happen to live in Jets territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I just hope you don't think I'm a Jets fan. I just happen to live in Jets territory. Certainly not ... just a general comment aimed at the enemy who might be perusing this forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Roy Hobbs said: Certainly not ... just a general comment aimed at the enemy who might be perusing this forum. My personal opinion is the Jets will end up being worse off long term if Zach has a good game and they stick with him longer. But living where I do, I'd love to see Zach implode early on Sunday, Flacco come in and be Flacco - and then revel in local sports radio on Monday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Rodgers and the ny media would be awesome theater. I just want the jets in QB purgatory. Hope Wilson looks good this week so they contemplate giving him more time. He just might against the lions. Ugh, what a nightmare scenario. I hate the way the Jets are trending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: My personal opinion is the Jets will end up being worse off long term if Zach has a good game and they stick with him longer. But living where I do, I'd love to see Zach implode early on Sunday, Flacco come in and be Flacco - and then revel in local sports radio on Monday. I mean, can't we hope for both? A terrible game AND they stick with him a long time. 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 White is tough as nails. Bills should try to get him as a backup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Wyobills89 said: Well I mean Josh Allen once was the famous idaho potatoe bowl MVP, take that for what it's worth lol. Highlights: MVP award video: Edited December 17, 2022 by Albany,n.y. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: White is tough as nails. Bills should try to get him as a backup. I'd doubt the Jets are just going to let him walk after the year Zach Wilson has had and if you're White, why would you want to take a gig in which you have no chance to start? Dude's got Bridge QB or Training Camp competition written all over him. Edited December 17, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: White is tough as nails. Bills should try to get him as a backup. Trubisky will prolly be available again too? 😝 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I'd doubt the Jets are just going to let him walk after the year Zach Wilson has had and if you're White, why would you want to take a gig in which you have no chance to start? Dude's got Bridge QB or Training Camp competition written all over him. I agree, but no harm in trying. Mike White or Taylor Heinicke for backup QB next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 15 hours ago, Beck Water said: I'm sure it's what White wanted to do, but IMHO if a guy has to rush off the field to hop into an ambulance and go to the ER, he quite possibly should just Do It and not play the rest of the game first. 100%, and I feel like that is why it is smart the NFL put guys into watch the players. Except when they....don't do their job at all, lol. Anybody think the Jets let him come back in if they have no playoff shot? I think all of a sudden they would 'show a high degree of care for the health of their players'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 In my perfect world, The Bills get the first round bye, both the Jets and Dolphins make the playoffs, and lose in the wildcard round, and the Patriots* sit at the local bah crying into their Sam Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 11 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I agree, but no harm in trying. Mike White or Taylor Heinicke for backup QB next year. What’s wrong with Case Keenum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 16 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: I thought he was playing pretty well last week before Oliver and Milano made his acquaintance - on a bad weather day he threw for 268 yards. "Reached the level of his own incompetence" feels like a reach to me. While I get your point about what the Bills did to him after his historic game against Cincy, I just don't get the rush to judgement - it's the easiest thing in the world to predict an NFL QB will never make it. Sooner or later everyone reaches the level of their own incompetence. Though the bar is different for every human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 18 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I'd doubt the Jets are just going to let him walk after the year Zach Wilson has had and if you're White, why would you want to take a gig in which you have no chance to start? Dude's got Bridge QB or Training Camp competition written all over him. I think he’s going to get a much larger deal than that. He’s shown to be pretty damn good in multiple garbage situations. I would not be shocked to see him get 20+/yr for 3 years like a modern day Mike Glennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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