RiotAct Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 12 hours ago, chongli said: Bet they wish they had kept Geno Smith. I hope Wilson returns in time to play the Bills. We’ll beat them in a couple weeks no matter who they trot out there at quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ski Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/23/2022 at 10:54 AM, MarkyMannn said: Seems once a QB is benched, they never come back to be a success. I'm sure there are exceptions, but not many Jimmy G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 19 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: He played in the USFL to start his career though... And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: And? AND he played in the USFL (or any other pro league) to start his career, unlike any other BYU QB before or since. There has never been a BYU QB to complete over 60% of their passes in their career in the NFL outside of Steve Young, which is pretty sad. Edited November 25, 2022 by EasternOHBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: AND he played in the USFL (or any other pro league) to start his career, unlike any other BYU QB before or since. There has never been a BYU QB to complete over 60% of their passes in their career in the NFL outside of Steve Young, which is pretty sad. I do not think this really applies. He also sat behind Montana for a few years, When Young got his chance, he played at a high level. If Young played for say; Pitt, Miami, Ohio State et al, would we be having this conversation? In my opinion, either one can play in this league or not. Anyways, it doesn't really matter much it is just silly takes, Happy Thanksgiving 🙂 Edited November 25, 2022 by billsfan_34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Sgt. Ski said: Jimmy G Best example👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Was listening to Greenie today as he was trying to unfold the curious case of Zach Wilson. Greenie was asserting that the only thing that made sense was there was a player revolt in the lockerroom to get rid of Wilson. It is pretty astonishing that they won't even give him a uniform on game days now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, wjag said: Was listening to Greenie today as he was trying to unfold the curious case of Zach Wilson. Greenie was asserting that the only thing that made sense was there was a player revolt in the lockerroom to get rid of Wilson. It is pretty astonishing that they won't even give him a uniform on game days now. Like it or not I think Wilson has to be the backup. Flacco is a statue back there and has nothing left in the tank. I was actually surprised that when White got hurt and Flacco came in that they called a pass play. White is probably going to play vs the Lions with sore ribs. If he gets hurt again, they have better shot to win the game with Wilson over Flacco. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 11/24/2022 at 5:20 PM, Sgt. Ski said: Jimmy G Kurt Warner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, wjag said: Was listening to Greenie today as he was trying to unfold the curious case of Zach Wilson. Greenie was asserting that the only thing that made sense was there was a player revolt in the lockerroom to get rid of Wilson. It is pretty astonishing that they won't even give him a uniform on game days now. Eric Wood on the WGR pre game was talking about the scene where the Jets players were wearing Mike White shirts. He basically said that the Jets players made a statement. He said if Ryan Groy replaced me as starter and I saw people wearing Ryan Groy shirts....we're fighting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, wjag said: Was listening to Greenie today as he was trying to unfold the curious case of Zach Wilson. Greenie was asserting that the only thing that made sense was there was a player revolt in the lockerroom to get rid of Wilson. It is pretty astonishing that they won't even give him a uniform on game days now. I think Zach Wilson is done in NY. I wouldn't be surprised to see them attempt to offload him somewhere in the offseason. The on field performance, coupled with the post game interviews, and what else only the players know from team only settings give you everything that you see unfolding now. I know they talk about him getting back to the basics and working on his fundamentals, but I say its all horse manure. He's done, at least in NY.. Edited December 13, 2022 by H2o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I gotta say Saleh is smart to pull the plug early on him. It’s clearly not working out. Kinda like us pulling the plug on EJ Manuel. The only what-if is if he is a late bloomer. Look at Hurts. He was very pedestrian his first couple of seasons. But this year seemingly found success. I don’t think Zach will find that success at this pint because the jets are clearly done with him. He will go the road of Josh Rosen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Eric Wood on the WGR pre game was talking about the scene where the Jets players were wearing Mike White shirts. He basically said that the Jets players made a statement. He said if Ryan Groy replaced me as starter and I saw people wearing Ryan Groy shirts....we're fighting. My personnel skills so on point, i was sure Groy was gunna be a mainstay on this team for a long time!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Zach Wilson 5-2 Joe Flacco 1-2 Mike White 1-2 Maybe win - loss record isn't a QB stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Eric Wood on the WGR pre game was talking about the scene where the Jets players were wearing Mike White shirts. He basically said that the Jets players made a statement. He said if Ryan Groy replaced me as starter and I saw people wearing Ryan Groy shirts....we're fighting. I heard Wilson was reaching out to Mike White’s Mom - he had a different type of revenge on his mind. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Que Marcus Mariota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, wjag said: Was listening to Greenie today as he was trying to unfold the curious case of Zach Wilson. Greenie was asserting that the only thing that made sense was there was a player revolt in the lockerroom to get rid of Wilson. It is pretty astonishing that they won't even give him a uniform on game days now. I also love how on the broadcast Sunday they were bringing up how this is just a reset for Wilson and they can’t wait to get him back on the field. Okkkk, sure. There’s no coming back from benching a young QB and then not even making him active in game days. His career as a Jet is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Mike White is not a good QB. He’s probably better than Zach Wilson, but he’s not good. I was at the game and then watched the All 22. White’s coaches do not trust him at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, without a drought said: Zach Wilson 5-2 Joe Flacco 1-2 Mike White 1-2 Maybe win - loss record isn't a QB stat. Four passing touchdowns and five interceptions in those seven games, plus a rushing touchdown against the injury ridden Dolphins. He has a passer rating of 72.6 and a QBR of 43.2. In his three games so far, White has three touchdowns and two interceptions, passer rating of 85.8 and QBR of 49.1. The wins have very little to do with Wilson, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: My personnel skills so on point, i was sure Groy was gunna be a mainstay on this team for a long time!!! Me too....me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, CDogg20 said: Kurt Warner On 11/24/2022 at 5:20 PM, Sgt. Ski said: Jimmy G Huey Smith! * Sorry, thought we were doing Dave Edmunds version of 'I Hear You Knockin'. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I heard Wilson was reaching out to Mike White’s Mom - he had a different type of revenge on his mind. 😂 What if you're a team mom and Zach Wilson never approaches you....does that just kill their self esteem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 46 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What if you're a team mom and Zach Wilson never approaches you....does that just kill their self esteem? No, it means they're safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 hours ago, VaMilBill said: I gotta say Saleh is smart to pull the plug early on him. It’s clearly not working out. Kinda like us pulling the plug on EJ Manuel. The only what-if is if he is a late bloomer. Look at Hurts. He was very pedestrian his first couple of seasons. But this year seemingly found success. I don’t think Zach will find that success at this pint because the jets are clearly done with him. He will go the road of Josh Rosen Except Hurts was never as bad as Wilson has been, and Hurts is a man of integrity and extreme work ethic (not unlike Josh Allen, I'd propose) to improve himself...whereas Wilson appears to be an entitled Cougar chaser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 hours ago, wjag said: Was listening to Greenie today as he was trying to unfold the curious case of Zach Wilson. Greenie was asserting that the only thing that made sense was there was a player revolt in the lockerroom to get rid of Wilson. It is pretty astonishing that they won't even give him a uniform on game days now. There was speculation dating back to when White played last year that Wilson might have lost the locker room. Nothing concrete that I knew of except for RB Ty Johnson's quote. I never put too much stock in it, thought it was just radio guys stirring the pot. After what's transpired this year I'm not so sure. This quote is from 2021: “It’s Mike f’ing White. He’s a savage, he’s a dog, he’s an animal,” Ty Johnson, earner of 86 yards and the aforementioned score, added. “I said it on Monday, and I’ll say it again. I’m going to keep saying it, he’s a dog, he’s an animal. Let’s keep it like that.” (https://jetsxfactor.com/2021/11/01/ny-jets-mike-white-savage/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 hours ago, H2o said: I think Zach Wilson is done in NY. I wouldn't be surprised to see them attempt to offload him somewhere in the offseason. The on field performance, coupled with the post game interviews, and what else only the players know from team only settings give you everything that you see unfolding now. I know they talk about him getting back to the basics and working on his fundamentals, but I say its all horse manure. He's done, at least in NY.. toxic. Some team will try. QB needs to lead. Zack is no leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trock Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Wilson looked much more composed that White. White was careless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/14/zach-wilson-moves-up-to-no-2-qb-mike-white-will-be-limited-wednesday/ Quote If he can’t go, Zach Wilson will be back in the starting lineup. Wilson was demoted to the No. 3 job when he was benched last month, but Saleh said he has moved past Joe Flacco into the No. 2 spot on the depth chart this week. You know all Jets fans and WR's are hoping and praying White will be a full go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 11/23/2022 at 12:29 PM, zow2 said: The hoodie has destroyed 2 Jets QBs. Sam Darnold was never the same after seeing ghosts, and Wilson was made to look foolish in his only 2 losses this season by the Pats. Darnold wasn’t “the same” before seeing ghosts, all Sam has done since joining the NFL is suck at being a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 16 hours ago, Pete said: toxic. Some team will try. QB needs to lead. Zack is no leader 'All roads pass through Charlotte, North Carolina'. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35251835/jets-robert-saleh-zach-wilson-no-2-qb-lions-game "Zach's been doing a great job," Saleh said. "He's been deliberate in his approach over the last three weeks. He's been holding himself accountable with regards to how he wants to attack practice, how he's been performing in practice, going against our defense, which I think is a pretty good defense to go against. He's been working on all the different things that we've been asking him to accomplish." I think Saleh has handled this whole situation about as poorly as any HC could. He says WAY too much to the media, in my opinion. I'm interested to see how others interpret his latest comments (above). If I were to "translate" this, I think it would be something like: "Zach got benched because he wasn't putting the work in. His approach was lackadaisical, he's been a finger-pointer and he was just going through the motions in practice. He's got a ways to go, but he's finally starting to respond to our concerns." My gut tells me that this is more of a personality clash between Wilson and his teammates than anything. And instead of approaching this as a "team problem," Saleh let the locker room make the call and decided to treat it as a "Zach Wilson problem." Saleh has lost this team, IMO. I couldn't be happier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35251835/jets-robert-saleh-zach-wilson-no-2-qb-lions-game "Zach's been doing a great job," Saleh said. "He's been deliberate in his approach over the last three weeks. He's been holding himself accountable with regards to how he wants to attack practice, how he's been performing in practice, going against our defense, which I think is a pretty good defense to go against. He's been working on all the different things that we've been asking him to accomplish." I think Saleh has handled this whole situation about as poorly as any HC could. He says WAY too much to the media, in my opinion. I'm interested to see how others interpret his latest comments (above). If I were to "translate" this, I think it would be something like: "Zach got benched because he wasn't putting the work in. His approach was lackadaisical, he's been a finger-pointer and he was just going through the motions in practice. He's got a ways to go, but he's finally starting to respond to our concerns." My gut tells me that this is more of a personality clash between Wilson and his teammates than anything. And instead of approaching this as a "team problem," Saleh let the locker room make the call and decided to treat it as a "Zach Wilson problem." Saleh has lost this team, IMO. I couldn't be happier. I don't think he has lost the team. I think it's the opposite. If you believe what's being reported from the media, then it's Zach who has lost the locker room. I think had Saleh stayed with Wilson while they are fighting for a playoff spot then he would have lost the team. Especially if Wilson continued to play like poop and cost them games. The rest of the team loves White who has played better than Wilson so starting him makes sense. They have no choice but to have Wilson backup White. Flacco is completely done and has nothing left in the tank anymore. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Jets season is coming back to reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That sucks for Mike White. I hope its only a one week thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 of course Mike White wants to play... this is his shot to either keep the starting job or put enough on tape that another team trades for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0neguy Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 So…. Bills and Lions wins knock the Jest out of the playoffs 👍. Sounds good to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, f0neguy said: So…. Bills and Lions wins knock the Jest out of the playoffs 👍. Sounds good to me. Will they be eliminated w loss to lions ? Doubt it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0neguy Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Edit, they could conceivably squeak into WC slot but it doesn’t look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Jets fans right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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