ColoradoBills Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, H2o said: The kid is oblivious. Maybe sprinkle a little "entitled" into it too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, LeviF said: As opposed to what, posting counting stats? You people are out of line. His stats are worse and if you watch him play then it would be very, very difficult to make an argument that he's better. What are you even going on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Malazan said: His stats are worse and if you watch him play then it would be very, very difficult to make an argument that he's better. What are you even going on about? "Mike White's stats are better!" * 6.1 INT% * lol nah I'm good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: no way that's real, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: no way that's real, right? Its real Edited November 23, 2022 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Scott7975 said: Its real LOL sounds like a whining child... Of course he plays his best game of the season against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) The clip of Josh Allen after the Jets loss saying "it's hard to win when your QB plays like s***" went somewhat viral on Jets social media over the last week. And there were reports that Jets players weren't happy with Wilson's lack of accountability. When you lose the fans and the players, the coach has no choice but to make a change. Edited November 23, 2022 by HappyDays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, MarkyMannn said: Seems once a QB is benched, they never come back to be a success. I'm sure there are exceptions, but not many The only one that comes to mind, and it is waaaaay back was Terry Bradshaw. He was benched in favor of Joe Gilliam before coming back to win 4 Super Bowls and go to Canton. But even that was a weird one that was in the wake of a player strike in 74. But Terry had been uninspiring in his prior 3 or 4 years. Edited November 23, 2022 by cwater10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Then he should have eaten his vegetables. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds 808080 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 You know what sucks about this is we lost to them!!!! Does not matter he beat us weather because of there D or whatever he was QB and they won. I am not saying he is better than Josh he is the goat "JOSH" but was in slump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Pretty awesome that Mac Jones played Wilson to a 3-3 draw too. The backup quarterbacks appear to be better than the starters on both those teams. Mac Jones is better than people give him credit for. He is like a poor mans Jimmy G. Which on the right team, isnt a horrible option. The Jets defense is also very very good Wilson looks like he has no idea what hes doing out there. His pocket presence is horrendous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 So that actual video from Saleh sounds a lot different from the Twitter quote from Connor Hughes. OK same words, but huge difference in tone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Its real So, this comes off more of paraphrasing a more normal conversation if we're being fair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I’m sure this has been asked before but…in the middle of the playoff hunt they’re not gonna go with Flacco? seems like more of a 1 game benching punishment type thing than ‘we’re trying to do what’s gonna help our team win games’ thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Never draft a qb from BYU Don't tell that to Steve Young...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 may hurt his confidence a little bit, but not his arrogance… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 The Jets went from Division Title hopes to season on the brink in one week. How the f#$@ did we manage to lose these clowns?!?* *Rhetorical. I'm painfully aware of how it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Steve Young turned out alright don’t ya think? That was 38 years ago. Even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut 2 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: Don't tell that to Steve Young...lol 38 years ago. In modern NFL times, my point holds 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: Don't tell that to Steve Young...lol You don't know me, man. I'll say it right to his face in front of all 7 of his wives. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 How did they break the news to the team? Can’t imagine Wilson was present. Saleh: “Ok, real quick guys, before Zach steps in the room…..he’s been benched. (Load cheer goes up from defensive players in back of room). Now act like everything’s normal - here he comes!” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: So that actual video from Saleh sounds a lot different from the Twitter quote from Connor Hughes. OK same words, but huge difference in tone Yes different but still funny. I found the clip after the fact of my post. Edited November 23, 2022 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 He’s an entitled little brat. He always gave me Jimmy Clausen vibes. Dude is worse than EJ and JP with a pretty good team around him. If the Jets found a real qb, they would be really tough. I hate trashing young qbs but he has no leadership qualities. What I love about Josh is how he owns if after losses and his worst game this year is better than Zach’s best. is Flacco hurt? Because white ain’t the answer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, Malazan said: I'd suggest actually watching them play. I mean, to be fair, against the Bills Wilson looked like a legit NFL QB. 46 minutes ago, LeviF said: As opposed to what, posting counting stats? You people are out of line. You said "Zach Wilson is better, it's not even a debate". Since the point of this board is discussion and debate, a preemptive strike to cut off debate seems out of line by some measures. Pragmatically, if some people watched them play and thought it was debatable, and there are objective metrics (like stats) that seem to support some debate, perhaps it is, in fact, debatable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I mean, to be fair, against the Bills Wilson looked like a legit NFL QB. You said "Zach Wilson is better, it's not even a debate". Since the point of this board is discussion and debate, a preemptive strike to cut off debate seems out of line by some measures. Pragmatically, if some people watched them play and thought it was debatable, and there are objective metrics (like stats) that seem to support some debate, perhaps it is, in fact, debatable. To be fair, just about every QB in the NFL has looked good in at least one game. Its not like Wilson lit us on fire for 400 yards or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I mean, to be fair, against the Bills Wilson looked like a legit NFL QB. You said "Zach Wilson is better, it's not even a debate". Since the point of this board is discussion and debate, a preemptive strike to cut off debate seems out of line by some measures. Pragmatically, if some people watched them play and thought it was debatable, and there are objective metrics (like stats) that seem to support some debate, perhaps it is, in fact, debatable. He had 154 yards and averaged 6.2 ypa and that was arguably his best start this year. He is throwing to a bunch of 1st and 2nd rounders and has a top 10ish defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: I don’t get it. He’s your guy, let him play out a couple full seasons, then make a decision on his future during the offseason. This is a different scenario if you’re replacing a struggling veteran QB with someone of equal skill. Everyone knows that Mike White or Joe Flacco aren’t going to play much better. I don’t see any of these QB’s giving the Jets a greater chance to win than the next guy. It seems more like disciplinary action for Wilson acting like a punk, which the team knew when they drafted him. I don't think it's disciplinary, I think Saleh was in danger of losing the team if he stuck with Zach after the Pats game and Zach's post-game comments. Plus, can you imagine if Zach got off to a slow start on Sunday? He would have been eaten alive by the home crowd. I don't think they should give up on him, but he needs a timeout. My guess is he'll be back after the jets get another look at White and/or Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Real McNasty said: Damn, I was hoping we get to play that turd 12/11. probably will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Wilson has the rookie wobbles really bad. Sitting him down is the best thing for him. Don't ruin him like many other talented rookie QBs do. Let him learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, MarkyMannn said: Seems once a QB is benched, they never come back to be a success. I'm sure there are exceptions, but not many I can think of a few. Craig Morton got benched for Roger Staubach. Craig went on to lead the Broncos to the Super Bowl. Kurt Warner was benched a couple of times and went on to lead the Cardinals to the Super Bowl. Matt Hasselbeck was benched for Trent Dilfer and went on to take Seahawks to Super Bowl. Edited November 23, 2022 by reddogblitz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I still can't believe we lost to this bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He’s an entitled little brat. He always gave me Jimmy Clausen vibes. Dude is worse than EJ and JP with a pretty good team around him. If the Jets found a real qb, they would be really tough. I hate trashing young qbs but he has no leadership qualities. What I love about Josh is how he owns if after losses and his worst game this year is better than Zach’s best. is Flacco hurt? Because white ain’t the answer either. People made a big deal of him answering no when asked about letting the D down in the press conference but I saw his whole presser and the thing that struck me more was how business like he was about the whole thing. The guy had just helped generate something like 2 yards of offense in a whole half and he didn't seem embarrassed or even slightly disgusted. When you see how Josh looks after a loss and how he takes 99% of the blame and puts it on his own shoulders, sure he's making sure to be the leader but he genuinely looks like he wants to puke. Wilson to me just looked a bit nonchalant. Maybe that's just the way he deals with it but you can see why fans and even his own team mates would be pissed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Never draft a qb from BYU Oh, hi, Steve Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Sounds like a ten year old spoiled brat. Edited November 23, 2022 by Joe Ferguson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, JohnNord said: This is such an odd decision… if you were going to bench your young QB for struggling in the midst of a playoff run, wouldn’t you replace with your capable backup QB (Flacco) rather than with a QB with less experience (White) Flacco seems to be such a better choice I think White is probably more liked by the offensive players. I remember seeing him against Cincy last season and you can tell he's one of the guys, a baller who will get his teammates fired up. Zach Wilson looks so passive when he's in there it's like he's so busy going over all the steps he has to take in his own head so as to not completely ***** up the next play that he's not able to actually communicate with his guys. And he never seems to get fired up. From the Jets games I saw it was almost like he was putting his own offense to sleep Edited November 23, 2022 by RobbRiddick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, Utah John said: Wilson has the rookie wobbles really bad. Sitting him down is the best thing for him. Don't ruin him like many other talented rookie QBs do. Let him learn. Except he’s not a rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Gugny said: Yep. Holy crap. From starter to 3rd string ... just like that. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35091901/sources-jets-players-told-qb-zach-wilson-start-sunday "Zach's career here is not over," Saleh said. "I know that's going to be the narrative and I know that's what everybody wants to shout out, but that's not even close to the case. The full intent is to make sure Zach gets back on the football field this season. When that is, I'll make that decision. I'll take it day-to-day." (sound familiar???) Yeah, that's a classic case of someone covering his a*s. So if White and/or Flacco play like crap he can throw Wilson back in and then say it was the plan all along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: People made a big deal of him answering no when asked about letting the D down in the press conference but I saw his whole presser and the thing that struck me more was how business like he was about the whole thing. The guy had just helped generate something like 2 yards of offense in a whole half and he didn't seem embarrassed or even slightly disgusted. When you see how Josh looks after a loss and how he takes 99% of the blame and puts it on his own shoulders, sure he's making sure to be the leader but he genuinely looks like he wants to puke. Wilson to me just looked a bit nonchalant. Maybe that's just the way he deals with it but you can see why fans and even his own team mates would be pissed To me it seemed like it didn’t really bother him. Which is a whole problem in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 More time for him to partake in his MILF hunting hobby … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Should have stuck with Wilson, you have to know what you have 100% before you move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 This decision is a total choke from Saleh. Is Wilson uncoachable? His record suggests no. Coach that QB. I wonder how much of this is attributable to a knee-jerk reaction to the toxic NYC media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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