Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Chiefs lost Hill but still have the greatest cheat code in Kelce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: to be clear we aren't talking about a ghost flag or something...there WAS holding on the play actually that last penalty was probably Kelce's 6th push off of the night. He's taken Gronk's go to move and turned it into an art form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Kelce is a monster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Chiefs lost Hill but still have the greatest cheat code in Kelce. Here's to hoping he retires soon. 34 next year and pretty sure he is the oldest active tight end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Might as well go ahead and give Mahomes that league MVP trophy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: I don't know how else to explain this. How do you get lucky the ref threw a flag on an actual penalty? Also...if no flag it just goes to 4th and 4 I think...decent shot Mahomes converts...it might be moot. The call wasnt a game changer..... It kinda is when they didnt call obvious OPI on the first big pass play of that drive and throw away from the pocket when under duress not being called grounding. Honestly, I dont even really care but the NFL refs do constantly effect the outcomes of close games in the moment when they hold flags all game long. That one to me was ticky tacky. I would hope that even you would not deny the type of crap Kelce gets away with only for the refs to turn and favor him in a call. Thats why these type of calls are more BS to other people that are not Chiefs fans. Dude constantly grabs and pushes off and is rarely called only for it to be called the other way. Look at your game a couple weeks ago where he tore someones helmet off in the endzone but only a defensive penalty there. Yes the defender did hold but that should be offsetting. Its not even just the Chiefs here. Even the Bills get a benefit here and there. It happens around the league. All I ever ask for is for refs to call a game equal for both teams througout the entire game. Not all of a sudden just find a call when that call matters most. Im not really a conspiracy theorist but there is some merrit to WWE type talk in some of these games. Some refs are blind as ***** bats. We had an INT taken away even after review. We had a ball taken away from our offense when the receiver had clear possession and at best was 50/50 simultaneous possesssion even after review. These arent ones that had no angles either. They clearly had good angles. There is some hogwash in this league. May not be outright game fixing but there is stuff going on. I mean I call this stuff all the time. I can see some team totally get away with pass interferrance and I say outloud ... you watch they will call PI on us on the next drive. Low and behold it happens. That happens quite a lot. Edited November 21, 2022 by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Process said: It's pretty crazy that a failed QB sneak could cost us the 1 seed two years in a row “Failed” is putting it rather mildly given what exactly happened on those plays and the circumstances. …that a QB sneak “all-time implosion” could cost… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Can't ever count on the chargers in the clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Chiefs are frustratingly clutch ...except for not actually winning SBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: to be clear we aren't talking about a ghost flag or something...there WAS holding on the play Okay, you are right. Thanks for that. Have a good day. Bye. Edited November 21, 2022 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Bills fan since 87 said: Im not blaming him at all. Just pointing out the trend. Until he is part of an important win, he hasnt been. And there have been chances galore Their D this year is decimated by injuries. I think they said during the game that thEY HAD 3rd stringers starting on their D line. I think they also showed CB were out as well.. Also last night was the first game with their #1 WR all year.. So being 5-5 is actually pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just watched the DVRed 2nd half. Had a great feeling with the Chargers in front with less than 2 mins. Slight nagging stress that the Chiefs and Mahomes would get close to a TD but watching that last drive was supremely nauseating. The defensive holding which was incredibly ticky tack just like so many called this year and then leaving Kelce WIDE OPEN on the TD pass?? No Jamming at the line? Idiots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Doesn’t even matter, because this Chiefs team would need multiple losses for the one seed to shake free. I just don’t see multiple losses happening. The Bills, on the other hand, I see a couple more losses. The one seed is a pipe dream 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 The feeling I came away with watching the game last night is how many offensive weapons those teams have compared to the Bills. At this point I am not convinced the Bills can make it out of the 1st round of the playoffs without a struggle let alone match up with the Chiefs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 The chiefs are so far in my head. I'm so mad at the bills for already squandering their hold on the 1 seed. We are going to have to go there again if we get that far. AGAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The feeling I came away with watching the game last night is how many offensive weapons those teams have compared to the Bills. At this point I am not convinced the Bills can make it out of the 1st round of the playoffs without a struggle let alone match up with the Chiefs again. Relax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 3.14159265359 She can't spell. It was a follow up to where her missing pizza pie was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Doesn’t even matter, because this Chiefs team would need multiple losses for the one seed to shake free. I just don’t see multiple losses happening. The Bills, on the other hand, I see a couple more losses. The one seed is a pipe dream The Chiefs literally need 1 loss, to an AFC opponent and they lose the 1 seed. Dunno where you are getting multiple loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: The Chiefs literally need 1 loss, to an AFC opponent and they lose the 1 seed. Dunno where you are getting multiple loses. Because I don’t see the Bills winning out under any circumstance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, PetermansRedemption said: Because I don’t see the Bills winning out under any circumstance. Ok, that sounds like a you thing... they can still lose 1 game and Miami could take the #1 seed. The Chiefs don't need multiple loses to lose that seed, as you stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) It’s just sickening watching how Reid schemes up that offense. Watching Kelce be a constant cheat code. Seeing Mahomes drooled over because of 5 yard dumps off that get taken 30-40 yards to the house. It is what it is. Bills had the 1 seed in a vice grip, and now we likely need to win out .. and I don’t even know if that will be enough. Arrowhead it is .. again Edited November 21, 2022 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, SCBills said: It’s just sickening watching how Reid schemes up that offense. Watching Kelce be a constant cheat code. Seeing Mahomes drooled over because of 5 yard dumps off that get taken 30-40 yards to the house. It is what it is. Bills had the 1 seed in a vice grip, and now we likely need to win out .. and I don’t even know if that will be enough. Arrowhead it is .. again Maybe, Mahomes has won no more than 12 regular season games except 1 time. Teams lose games, even good ones. Maybe they go 15-2 this year, but it would be a career high for Mahomes in the regular season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Just had a look at the Chiefs remaining schedule. vs. Rams, at Bengals at Broncos at Texans vs. Seahawks vs. Broncos at Raiders I don't see any losses for them there except maybe against Cincinnati. The situation sucks, but that's just the way it is. The Bills probably have to win out just to have a chance at home field, and the Chiefs will have to lose in an upset. Edited November 21, 2022 by Dr. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr. K said: Just had a look at the Chiefs remaining schedule. I don't see any losses for them there except maybe against Cincinnati. The situation sucks, but that's just the way it is. The Bills probably have to win out just to have a chance at home field, and the Chiefs will have to lose in an upset. Hopefully the Rams suddenly decide to play like they are the Champs and the Seahawks steal a win against KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Brandon Staley - career DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dr. K said: Just had a look at the Chiefs remaining schedule. vs. Rams, at Bengals at Broncos at Texans vs. Seahawks vs. Broncos at Raiders I don't see any losses for them there except maybe against Cincinnati. The situation sucks, but that's just the way it is. The Bills probably have to win out just to have a chance at home field, and the Chiefs will have to lose in an upset. All the worrying about the Chiefs is not productive. Bills had a harder schedule, we all knew that going in. Add in that the AFC East is now a better division than the AFC West. Any team can win in any week. The Chiefs are not a perfect team. The Bills just need to work on what they can control. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Watching Kelce against some of these Dbs is liking watching 8th grade basketball, where the kid who was shaving and is 6ft2 is manhandling everybody on the court on his way to scoring 50pts. Its just seems so unfair. But at the same time teams are just moronic about defending him or even disrupting his skills with any kind of out of box defending. Its like they just give up. Why the Chargers didnt double team him on the last drive or jam him at the line is just nuts. Surely there is some way to consistently stop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 11 hours ago, UKBillFan said: I swear Herbert in his first year used to be like Josh - run through brick walls. Now I think a feather would make him slide. Herbert sustained a pretty serious injury in Week 2. Broken rib cartilage. A quick Google search says that it takes 12 weeks to heal, and that's not while playing NFL football (throwing passes and getting hit). I think that Herbert is sliding to protect that injured area. I don't think he's soft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Watching Kelce against some of these Dbs is liking watching 8th grade basketball, where the kid who was shaving and is 6ft2 is manhandling everybody on the court on his way to scoring 50pts. Its just seems so unfair. But at the same time teams are just moronic about defending him or even disrupting his skills with any kind of out of box defending. Its like they just give up. Why the Chargers didnt double team him on the last drive or jam him at the line is just nuts. Surely there is some way to consistently stop him. James got b.s. holding call on him on that last drive - The Chiefs went right back to the same call on the TD play knowing full well it was highly likely James wouldn’t touch him having just been called for a ridiculous holding penalty But still, that’s what high IQ offenses do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just some thoughts on the Chiefs after last night: - I said last week that even with a few key injuries (on offense) for the first time all season, they'd still have no problem moving the ball and winning this game because Mahomes is simply that guy. Guess what, he is that guy and even though everyone knows what's coming they are rarely stopped. - This is starting to feel like the Patriots/Brady all over again where teams have legitimate chances to beat them but piss all over themselves and all apart in awe of Mahomes. But as great as Mahomes is he needs to finish this year with another SB win to truly ascend to that mantle. -They probably aren't going to lose another game this year which means once again any chance the Bills or anyone else has of getting to the SB goes through KC in January. Only realistic chance for another loss is @ CIN but KC is probably going to want to send a message in that one after what happened last year. Either way still don't see Bills winning out so it's a moot point. - Rarely do I cry conspiracy with officiating, but just like with the Pats in years past it seems every favorable call goes the Chiefs way and they are almost never called for holidng on offense and every ticky tack foul is always called against their opponent which was true even when the Bills beat them earliest this year. I get their lovefest with Mahomes being the current face of the league but things are beyond predictable with this team and you get the sense that Reid/Mahomes/etc know they always have the refs on their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 The Chiefs had nine real drives. They scored TDs on three of them. They punted twice, kicked three FGs and turned it over. You'd think they scored 63 points, never got to third down, and had TDs on every drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Bills had the 1 seed in a vice grip, and now we likely need to win out .. and I don’t even know if that will be enough. Arrowhead it is .. again An enormous FUBAR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: James got b.s. holding call on him on that last drive - The Chiefs went right back to the same call on the TD play knowing full well it was highly likely James wouldn’t touch him having just been called for a ridiculous holding penalty But still, that’s what high IQ offenses do. I would be interested to see the analytics on the officials and how likely they are to call penalties in that situation. You are probably right that the defense who got burned on a bad call might lay off on smothering coverage just in case. I would argue that would be the time as a defensive coordinator to really double down on borderline illegal or full on dirty tactics. What do you have to lose? the Chiefs are probably going to score and refs are inept and wont call everything. You might as well resort to full on cheating at that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Apparently the Chiefs have won 25 straight games in November and December. November is typically when the Bills struggle and lose to lesser teams. I think Buffalo is truly the only AFC team at KC’s level and the fact they struggle during a period where KC excels, there’s no wonder the “Arrowhead Invitational” is a thing. We don’t have the same consistency or the wherewithal to pull out games we should lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Think the Chiefs end up with Melvin Gordon III? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Apparently the Chiefs have won 25 straight games in November and December. November is typically when the Bills struggle and lose to lesser teams. I think Buffalo is truly the only AFC team at KC’s level and the fact they struggle during a period where KC excels, there’s no wonder the “Arrowhead Invitational” is a thing. We don’t have the same consistency or the wherewithal to pull out games we should lose. I thought it was 125 straight games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Apparently the Chiefs have won 25 straight games in November and December. November is typically when the Bills struggle and lose to lesser teams. I think Buffalo is truly the only AFC team at KC’s level and the fact they struggle during a period where KC excels, there’s no wonder the “Arrowhead Invitational” is a thing. We don’t have the same consistency or the wherewithal to pull out games we should lose. We also don't have Kelce. He makes it easy for Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Think the Chiefs end up with Melvin Gordon III? That dude fumbles every game at key moments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: We also don't have Kelce. He makes it easy for Mahomes. He does, but if we did have Kelce, would Josh use him? He’s never had a reliance on the TE. I feel like Knox gets open far more than the ball comes his way, so I’m not sure Kelce would dominate the same way with Josh under center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: He does, but if we did have Kelce, would Josh use him? He’s never had a reliance on the TE. I feel like Knox gets open far more than the ball comes his way, so I’m not sure Kelce would dominate the same way with Josh under center. This is true. I don't think it's a matter of Josh not using him as much as our OC. We don't use Kelce close to the line of scrimmage like KC uses him. Mahomes completes a little dump off pass for a few yards and Kelce takes it 20 yards plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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