Greg Rousseau ankle sprain - week to week (Update: practice participant week of 11/27)

[Captain_Quint]

On 11/7/2022 at 3:08 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Lawson should start. He has experience.  Epenesa is a lost cause at this point. Basham should be 3rd in the rotation and Epenesa last off the bench.

Epenesa was hurt early in the game too, so I doubt we'll see alot of him. He limped off early then again later in the game.

[Mr. WEO]

On 11/7/2022 at 3:08 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Lawson should start.

 

 

 

It is assured:

 

"Whaley replied. “Shaq Lawson is going to walk in off the bus starting." 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

This is not optimal going against Cook and Chubb the next 2 weeks.   
 

[Toledo Bill]

27 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

This is not optimal going against Cook and Chubb the next 2 weeks.   
 

Lawson should help with the run defense, Espenesa can help with the water buckets 😡

[FilthyBeast]

Miller and Groot have been the only real bright spots on this latest revamped dline or the sack numbers would truly be pathetic.

 

It's definitely time for someone else to step up now because I'm still waiting to see all this alleged depth people keep telling me that Beane has built on this roster.

[Simon]

13 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Miller and Groot have been the only real bright spots on this latest revamped dline

 

This is a ginormous bucket of horsespit.

[FilthyBeast]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

This is a ginormous bucket of horsespit.

 

In terms of hard sack production it's true, point is some of these other guys really need to step up in Groot's absence.

 

What on earth happened to Basham? He was looking good early on in the season.

[Simon]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

In terms of hard sack production it's true, point is some of these other guys really need to step up in Groot's absence.

 

What on earth happened to Basham? He was looking good early on in the season.

 

He continues to look just fine in limited snaps, deep on a talent-rich DLine.

And nobody gives a freak about arbitrary sack stats on what is by far the #1 scoring defense in the entire league and arguably the best defensive front in the NFL.

 

You're constant need to find nonsense to continually complain about is starting to annoy a lot of people in this forum. I'm all for diversity of opinion but when multiple people are complaining about a singe poster then it's bordering on crusading, which makes it a "you" problem and a good time to reevaluate why people gather here and where you fit in. If you think this is a road you want to continue travelling, first you should ask yourself why you see regular long term disappearances from the likes of Scott Law, Billz4ever, IronMaidenBills, etc. and decide whether you want to walk that long, lonely lane right behind them.

[3rdand12]

I hope Frazier can manage through all the injuries up front and the back 7 as well

this is where Coaching really f'g matters

 And defense is going to be asked for plenty of extra if josh is no go.

 Go Bills

[LABILLBACKER]

8 hours ago, Toledo Bill said:

Lawson should help with the run defense, Espenesa can help with the water buckets 😡

Epenesa can help by asking to be released. 

[Richard Noggin]

3 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Miller and Groot have been the only real bright spots on this latest revamped dline or the sack numbers would truly be pathetic.

 

"If we throw out the top two pass rushers' sack totals this d-line's sack totals would be bad." -you, for some pathological reason

[JDubya76]

3 hours ago, Simon said:

 

He continues to look just fine in limited snaps, deep on a talent-rich DLine.

And nobody gives a freak about arbitrary sack stats on what is by far the #1 scoring defense in the entire league and arguably the best defensive front in the NFL.

 

You're constant need to find nonsense to continually complain about is starting to annoy a lot of people in this forum. I'm all for diversity of opinion but when multiple people are complaining about a singe poster then it's bordering on crusading, which makes it a "you" problem and a good time to reevaluate why people gather here and where you fit in. If you think this is a road you want to continue travelling, first you should ask yourself why you see regular long term disappearances from the likes of Scott Law, Billz4ever, IronMaidenBills, etc. and decide whether you want to walk that long, lonely lane right behind them.

[ehfeuh57]

When is the last time this guy played football? kinda need him back Thursday. Will it happen?

[Big Turk]

4 hours ago, DrDare said:

When is the last time this guy played football? kinda need him back Thursday. Will it happen?

 

Think he has a good shot...most of the others were around that length of time. He practiced in a limited fashion last week.

[BillsFan130]

4 hours ago, DrDare said:

When is the last time this guy played football? kinda need him back Thursday. Will it happen?

If I am not mistaken it is a high ankle sprain.

 

Those are usually 3-4 weeks, maybe more depending on severity. My guess is Bills sit him out next week as they have 10 days off after that . He didn't practice at all last week as well which isn;t a good sign.

 

But of course just a guess. Hope he returns next week

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

This is fine 

[pennstate10]

On 11/10/2022 at 8:55 PM, LABILLBACKER said:

Epenesa can help by asking to be released. 

This comment hasn’t aged well. 

[LABILLBACKER]

11 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

This comment hasn’t aged well. 

Actually it has. He's no better now than he was last year. But you keep believing that. Maybe someday you'll wake up and AJ will become Chris Kelsay.

[pennstate10]

3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Actually it has. He's no better now than he was last year. But you keep believing that. Maybe someday you'll wake up and AJ will become Chris Kelsay.

Lolz. Bills play him as their starting DE when Rousseau goes out because they can’t evaluate DE play as well as you. 
 

Rock on Garth. You called this one!

[LABILLBACKER]

2 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Lolz. Bills play him as their starting DE when Rousseau goes out because they can’t evaluate DE play as well as you. 
 

Rock on Garth. You called this one!

great...play him, just don't stay up at night waiting for him to have an impact.....rock on nittany

[Dr.Sack]

Rousseau ready to go yet? Asking for a friend.

[pennstate10]

20 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

great...play him, just don't stay up at night waiting for him to have an impact.....rock on nittany

Ahhh, gotta say I agree with you (mostly).

Epenesa has been a bit of a disappointment.  He was really good at Iowa, so I was glad when Bills got him in second round.  He's just a different player now.  At Iowa, he had a tremendous bull rush, but not in NFL.  I dont know if he's lost strength or what.

 

Still probalby Bills 3rd best DE, just not a real difference maker at this time.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

As others have mentioned, I think they’ll keep him out another week backed up to the mini-bye with 10 days off…

 

If he is truly ready to go, the saddle up for THURSDAY because he would be a large addition to an already decimated defense.

 

Edmunds return would be equally, if not more, important this week. Based off what I’ve seen from Klien, it wouldn’t surprise me if they erred on the side of caution and also gave the 10 days off to fully heal.

 

Morse will likely go IMO, as having finished the Browns game, he couldn’t be too banged up. A short week likely played into his absence. 
 

Dawkins falls into the same area as Groot IMO…ankle sprain likely looking at a week off leading to 17 days from injury to his return. 

[HOUSE]

Tape it up, let's go.. 

[Paul Costa]

Groot & Edmonds would be huge to have against Boston’s running game. 

[LABILLBACKER]

35 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Ahhh, gotta say I agree with you (mostly).

Epenesa has been a bit of a disappointment.  He was really good at Iowa, so I was glad when Bills got him in second round.  He's just a different player now.  At Iowa, he had a tremendous bull rush, but not in NFL.  I dont know if he's lost strength or what.

 

Still probalby Bills 3rd best DE, just not a real difference maker at this time.

And another disappointing tidbit I saw today about AJE is he leads the Bills by a wide margin with a 66% missed tackle rate. He and Boogie are both busts forced to play because Von & Groot are hurt.

[DCofNC]

51 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Ahhh, gotta say I agree with you (mostly).

Epenesa has been a bit of a disappointment.  He was really good at Iowa, so I was glad when Bills got him in second round.  He's just a different player now.  At Iowa, he had a tremendous bull rush, but not in NFL.  I dont know if he's lost strength or what.

 

Still probalby Bills 3rd best DE, just not a real difference maker at this time.

The difference is he’s not playing Iowa’s competition.  He bull rushed mid western farmers and beat them.  The Bills got him, made him lose 20lbs and sent him against competition he’s never seen.  He was never fast, never had moves, just pushed guys out of the way that don’t play in the NFL.  It’s the equivalent of a guy who made it as a starter in D2 vs small town high school teams.  Yeah he’s clearly better than the competition, but he’s not the best of the best.  Fact of the matter, there are only 32 men starting at any one position in the NFL and there are hundreds of guys starting at the same position across all the D1 schools, the likelihood a guy that’s not flat out dominant, with elite traits, ever becoming impactful against the very best in the world is negligible. 

18 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And another disappointing tidbit I saw today about AJE is he leads the Bills by a wide margin with a 66% missed tackle rate. He and Boogie are both busts forced to play because Von & Groot are hurt.

Oh and just imagine the impact the players the Bills Mafia would have picked by popular vote, vs Beane outsmarting the world and taking those 2.. you would have a starting RB and a ProBowl center/Guard..  but trust the process without question 🫡 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Rousseau sitting on his pile of cash.

[TailgateChef]

16 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

The difference is he’s not playing Iowa’s competition.  He bull rushed mid western farmers and beat them.  The Bills got him, made him lose 20lbs and sent him against competition he’s never seen.  He was never fast, never had moves, just pushed guys out of the way that don’t play in the NFL.

Here's Epenesa vs. Rashawn Slater from 2019:

There are only 3 reps (by my count) on this highlight film, but safe to say Slater kept him at bay relatively easily.

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And another disappointing tidbit I saw today about AJE is he leads the Bills by a wide margin with a 66% missed tackle rate. He and Boogie are both busts forced to play because Von & Groot are hurt.

 

Um, with Von and Groot healthy, AJE and Basham have been playing ~37% of the snaps

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Tape it up, let's go.. 

rub some dirt on it

[LyndonvilleBill]

11 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Tape it up, let's go.. 

With all of the ankle injuries this season,  may want to double up on the tape.😉

[nucci]

6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

rub some dirt on it

Put some Windex on it

[hemma]

He’s very tall.  Have they considered having him run on his knees?

[Big Turk]

12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And another disappointing tidbit I saw today about AJE is he leads the Bills by a wide margin with a 66% missed tackle rate. He and Boogie are both busts forced to play because Von & Groot are hurt.

 

That's mostly due to lack of attempts rather than tons of misses...also seems to be a little magical numbers going on in that since they are counting pressures as missed tackles which is suspect at best.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Big Turk

[Codyny13]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

That's mostly due to lack of attempts rather than tons of misses...also seems to be a little magical numbers going on in that since they are counting pressures as missed tackles which is suspect at best.

For sure, numbers always get skewed, hence why there’s always a minimum attempts to qualify for percentages, which this doesn’t take into acct. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

14 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Rousseau sitting on his pile of cash.

[Airseven]

15 hours ago, pennstate10 said:

Ahhh, gotta say I agree with you (mostly).

Epenesa has been a bit of a disappointment.  He was really good at Iowa, so I was glad when Bills got him in second round.  He's just a different player now.  At Iowa, he had a tremendous bull rush, but not in NFL.  I dont know if he's lost strength or what.

 

Still probalby Bills 3rd best DE, just not a real difference maker at this time.

Epenesa is a bust. He’s too small for the NFL and lacks the athleticism to compensate.

[NewEra]

16 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Um, with Von and Groot healthy, AJE and Basham have been playing ~37% of the snaps

Doesn’t have much to do with AJ being bad.  
 

He’s our 3rd DE - 37% of the snaps will be going up with von out and maybe Rousseau bother week or 2.  He’ll be on the field for several important plays.  He’s smack talk relevant imo.

[Beck Water]

32 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Doesn’t have much to do with AJ being bad.  
 

He’s our 3rd DE - 37% of the snaps will be going up with von out and maybe Rousseau bother week or 2.  He’ll be on the field for several important plays.  He’s smack talk relevant imo.

 

The statement was that AJ and Boogie were being “Forced to Play” because Von and Groot were hurt.

 

That’s not what’s happening.

 

PS and FWIW Groot practiced today, AJ did not.  So “Von and Rousseau out, AJ gets more snaps” doesn’t look like what’s happening either

 

Edited November 27, 2022 by Beck Water