Was the Bronco's 2018 Draft the Worst in NFL History?

[st pete gogolak]

OK, maybe not the absolute worst in NFL history but they are sitting at #5 in a supposedly historic QB class and their QB is Case Keenum.  Not only do they not draft Josh Allen but they turn down a trade with the Bills because they absolutely, positively have to have Bradley Chubb at #5.  They churn through Keenum, Paxton Lynch and Drew Lock and decide they are a QB away from the Super Bowl and give the farm away for what looks like a washed Russell Wilson.  The cherry on top is now trading Chubb for a #1.  What a frickin' disaster.  

[Watkins101]

Maybe it was horrible, and stand-alone it’s a pretty bad sequence of events. But Maybe they get a franchise QB from the pick next year and it ends up working out for them. Many people said similar things when the bills traded the pick where Pat Mahomes was taken, until Allen proved himself in this league, and the trade looks like a win for both parties now. 
 

My point isn’t that the trade resulting from picking Chubb at 5 will beat out on drafting Allen at 5, but the story has not been fully written yet. 
 

Also, there have been many worse returns than a 1st after 4 years of play for a top 5 pick. Take Baker Mayfield from the same draft, who went 1 OA, then traded him for scraps to Carolina. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

They got more value than chubb is worth imo…he’s still gonna help the dolphins for sure but the broncos won that trade imo.  A first and they upgraded a 5th round pick to a 4th in addition to getting his contract off the books.  Also got chase Edmonds but that’s not worth much 

 

doesnt make their 2018 draft any better obviously but I’m not gonna mock them for the Chubb trade 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[mannc]

14 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

OK, maybe not the absolute worst in NFL history but they are sitting at #5 in a supposedly historic QB class and their QB is Case Keenum.  Not only do they not draft Josh Allen but they turn down a trade with the Bills because they absolutely, positively have to have Bradley Chubb at #5.  They churn through Keenum, Paxton Lynch and Drew Lock and decide they are a QB away from the Super Bowl and give the farm away for what looks like a washed Russell Wilson.  The cherry on top is now trading Chubb for a #1.  What a frickin' disaster.  

Oh yeah, how about the Jets’ 2018 draft? Or the Browns’ 2018 draft? Or the Giants’ 2018 draft?

[KDIGGZ]

Worst ever? Uh no 

[US Egg]

Denver is in cleaning house mode, making a mile high mess.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

A bunch of armchair GMs on here can watch the meltdown and say ‘what the heck’…but what does that say about the professional pundits who were all saying the Broncos were for real just two months ago? Amazing 

[st pete gogolak]

Hey, the Bills have messed up more than their share of drafts and no, it's not the worst ever.  But this isn't really looking at what the Broncos have done in hindsight.  They decided to stick with Case Keenum in a QB rich draft.  Kind of crazy.

[msw2112]

42 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

They got more value than chubb is worth imo…he’s still gonna help the dolphins for sure but the broncos won that trade imo.  A first and they upgraded a 5th round pick to a 4th in addition to getting his contract off the books.  Also got chase Edmonds but that’s not worth much 

 

doesnt make their 2018 draft any better obviously but I’m not gonna mock them for the Chubb trade 

 

Even Edmonds may have some value to them, since their #1 RB was lost for the season with an injury and Gordon has not been very productive.

[TheBrownBear]

Not even close.  They got 4+ years of Chubb and still were able to flip him for a 1st round pick.  Josey Jewell is also still there and starting games at LB.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Watkins101 said:

Maybe it was horrible, and stand-alone it’s a pretty bad sequence of events. But Maybe they get a franchise QB from the pick next year and it ends up working out for them. Many people said similar things when the bills traded the pick where Pat Mahomes was taken, until Allen proved himself in this league, and the trade looks like a win for both parties now. 
 

My point isn’t that the trade resulting from picking Chubb at 5 will beat out on drafting Allen at 5, but the story has not been fully written yet. 
 

Also, there have been many worse returns than a 1st after 4 years of play for a top 5 pick. Take Baker Mayfield from the same draft, who went 1 OA, then traded him for scraps to Carolina. 

Look no further than your prof pick 😆😆😭😭

Whatd Sammy fetch us again, a #2 or #3?

[Aussie Joe]

Remember when a lot of people here used to cry about the Mahomes draft/ trade with the Bills ?

 

We dont hear a lot about that anymore for some reason...

[co_springs_billsfan]

How about the Saints trading all of this for Ricky Williams:

 

1999 - 1st (12th Overall)

1999 - 3rd

1999 - 4th

1999 - 5th

1999 - 6th

1999 - 7th

2000 - 1st (2nd Overall)

2000 - 3rd

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2010 Buffalo was pretty bad:

 

Spiller

Troup

Carrington

Marcus Easley

Ed Wang

Arthur Moats
Danny Batten

Levi Brown

Kyle Calloway

 

and 2011 was horrible as well.

 

2010 - 2016 were complete wastes.

 

 

 

[Brand J]

This would be an interesting topic: name the Buffalo Bills worst draft. For me, it’s 2000. 
 

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1 26 Erik Flowers DE Arizona State

2 58 Travares Tillman FS Georgia Tech

3 89 Corey Moore LB Virginia Tech

4 121 Avion Black WR Tennessee State

5 156 Sammy Morris RB Texas Tech

6 194 Leif Larsen DE UTEP

7 233 Drew Haddad WR Buffalo

7 251 DaShon Polk LB Arizona

 

Only Sammy Morris amounted to anything and that wasn’t much. Leif Larsen was picked 5 slots before Tom Brady. Dark times.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

29 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Not even close.  They got 4+ years of Chubb and still were able to flip him for a 1st round pick.  Josey Jewell is also still there and starting games at LB.

 

 Yes, but it was the 5th overall pick, it will now most likely be a pick in the mid to late 20s several years later. Also they didn't get 4+ years from Chubb, he missed a year and a half worth of games during that time. Only 26 sacks to date. 

 

 

[Albany,n.y.]

1 hour ago, st pete gogolak said:

Hey, the Bills have messed up more than their share of drafts and no, it's not the worst ever.  But this isn't really looking at what the Broncos have done in hindsight.  They decided to stick with Case Keenum in a QB rich draft.  Kind of crazy.

Actually it turned out not to be a QB rich draft.  Only Josh & Lamar emerged as QBs worth taking.  Of the 4 QBs taken in the top 10, 3 of them busted-2 are backups in Carolina and the other is out of the league.  Of the 13 QBs taken only 3 are with the team that drafted them & the 3rd guy (Rudolph) is a 3rd stringer on a bad team.  

[ticketssince61]

22 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

2010 Buffalo was pretty bad:

 

Spiller

Troup

Carrington

Marcus Easley

Ed Wang

Arthur Moats
Danny Batten

Levi Brown

Kyle Calloway

 

 

 

 

 

That is an ugly draft!

[Augie]

35 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

How about the Saints trading all of this for Ricky Williams:

 

1999 - 1st (12th Overall)

1999 - 3rd

1999 - 4th

1999 - 5th

1999 - 6th

1999 - 7th

2000 - 1st (2nd Overall)

2000 - 3rd

 

But he did look lovely in a wedding dress.   🤷‍♂️

[mannc]

Hard to top Seattle trading two firsts and a third to the Jets for a safety.  

[OJ Dingo]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

2010 Buffalo was pretty bad:

 

Spiller

Troup

Carrington

Marcus Easley

Ed Wang

Arthur Moats
Danny Batten

Levi Brown

Kyle Calloway

 

and 2011 was horrible as well.

 

2010 - 2016 were complete wastes.

 

 

 

Every time I think of the 2010 draft and look at Torell Troup, I'm reminded that Rob Gronkowski was picked next.

[Southern_Bills]

Worst is a bold term, they obviously did very poor. Getting a 1st for Chubb helps somewhat I guess, but drafting Allen or Jackson was obviously the right move in hindsight. 

[Chicharito]

The year when buffalo picked maybin was the worst draft in nfl history by a team. 

[MJS]

At the time it was seen as a good pick.

[Low Positive]

3 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

Maybe it was horrible, and stand-alone it’s a pretty bad sequence of events. But Maybe they get a franchise QB from the pick next year and it ends up working out for them. Many people said similar things when the bills traded the pick where Pat Mahomes was taken, until Allen proved himself in this league, and the trade looks like a win for both parties now. 
 

My point isn’t that the trade resulting from picking Chubb at 5 will beat out on drafting Allen at 5, but the story has not been fully written yet. 
 

Also, there have been many worse returns than a 1st after 4 years of play for a top 5 pick. Take Baker Mayfield from the same draft, who went 1 OA, then traded him for scraps to Carolina. 

Remember, they traded their first for Russ. The first they just got is the 49ers 1st, which will be pretty late. So them sucking this year only gets the Seahawks a better pick. 

[B-Large]

Thank Osweiller and Lynch for the Broncos passing on a tall physically gifted semi-project like Allen. 
 

Elway psyched himself out. 

[Low Positive]

12 minutes ago, Chicharito said:

The year when buffalo picked maybin was the worst draft in nfl history by a team. 

The Raiders got so many firsts trading Mack and Cooper and they all busted

[NoSaint]

3 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

OK, maybe not the absolute worst in NFL history but they are sitting at #5 in a supposedly historic QB class and their QB is Case Keenum.  Not only do they not draft Josh Allen but they turn down a trade with the Bills because they absolutely, positively have to have Bradley Chubb at #5.  They churn through Keenum, Paxton Lynch and Drew Lock and decide they are a QB away from the Super Bowl and give the farm away for what looks like a washed Russell Wilson.  The cherry on top is now trading Chubb for a #1.  What a frickin' disaster.  

go look at a few raiders drafts fro a couple years back. They would have loved the broncos draft. 
 

 

[Orlando Tim]

Getting Bradley Chubb alone makes it not nearly the worst draft ever. Jets in that Draft were much worse- the best player they drafted was Darnold and the rest were bad.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

At the time it was seen as a good pick.

 

And that’s all you can fairly go by. At least it was a premium position, and he IS a good player. I will say, I’d rather have the first five cheap years. We are on the brink, so I love the Von signing. This is like the Dolphins signing Mario Williams. Yeah! Then bye, bye. 

[In Summary]

3 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

How about the Saints trading all of this for Ricky Williams:

 

1999 - 1st (12th Overall)

1999 - 3rd

1999 - 4th

1999 - 5th

1999 - 6th

1999 - 7th

2000 - 1st (2nd Overall)

2000 - 3rd

Ditka was quite strident. Acted like he getting Gale Sayers plus Walter Payton in one player.

[Zerovoltz]

There were some circumstances around that 2018 draft for Denver you need to understand

 

Denver at that time, and up until just this year, was being run by a trust.  They had just come off a losing season under Vance Joseph and Elway the GM, was looking to make a coaching change.  he wanted to bring back Mike Shanahan.  However, the trust wouldn't allow it, and didn't want to be paying Joseph and others not to be coaching.  Elway was kind of painted into the corner of giving Vance Joseph another year, along with an ultimatum to win or be fired.  Joseph had already been stuck with Paxton Lynch (I have a very interesting story about the drafting of Lynch that involves the Chiefs, Cowboys, and Roger Goodell...tampering)  ...Joseph requested a vet QB and so they signed Keenum.  He wasn't "already there".  Having signed Keenum, Denver wasn't really in teh QB market....the coach was fighting to keep his job and would not have been interested in taking a QB and would not have been interested in developing that QB...so at 5 they took Chubb.  A highly rated, ready to go right now, pass rusher.

 

It may very well have been different if Elway got to hire Shanahan and they would have then been in the QB market and may well have taken Allen, ready to develop him and with the luxury of being a new regime, and expedrience regime...it might have worked out there.  As it was, they weren't at point where it would have made sense for them.  

 

Imagine what might have happend if Elway went ahead and drafted Allen, gave him to that coach, who got fired anyhow, and then moved on to another coaching staff that had no ties to Allen.

[MJS]

16 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

There were some circumstances around that 2018 draft for Denver you need to understand

 

Denver at that time, and up until just this year, was being run by a trust.  They had just come off a losing season under Vance Joseph and Elway the GM, was looking to make a coaching change.  he wanted to bring back Mike Shanahan.  However, the trust wouldn't allow it, and didn't want to be paying Joseph and others not to be coaching.  Elway was kind of painted into the corner of giving Vance Joseph another year, along with an ultimatum to win or be fired.  Joseph had already been stuck with Paxton Lynch (I have a very interesting story about the drafting of Lynch that involves the Chiefs, Cowboys, and Roger Goodell...tampering)  ...Joseph requested a vet QB and so they signed Keenum.  He wasn't "already there".  Having signed Keenum, Denver wasn't really in teh QB market....the coach was fighting to keep his job and would not have been interested in taking a QB and would not have been interested in developing that QB...so at 5 they took Chubb.  A highly rated, ready to go right now, pass rusher.

 

It may very well have been different if Elway got to hire Shanahan and they would have then been in the QB market and may well have taken Allen, ready to develop him and with the luxury of being a new regime, and expedrience regime...it might have worked out there.  As it was, they weren't at point where it would have made sense for them.  

 

Imagine what might have happend if Elway went ahead and drafted Allen, gave him to that coach, who got fired anyhow, and then moved on to another coaching staff that had no ties to Allen.

It worked out for Allen. That would have been a sucky situation to be in. Allen got to come here and have stability. Of course, he had virtually no offensive talent around him, but at least he had a stable front office and coaches committed to his development.

[mabden]

They are tanking to draft a QB in the draft.

[Ya Digg?]

I think you can look at most of the drafts the Bills had during the drought and argue almost all of them were worse than the Broncos draft 

[Zerovoltz]

33 minutes ago, mabden said:

They are tanking to draft a QB in the draft.

They don’t own their own 1st round pick. It belongs to Seattle.  Ranking doesn’t help them

[Airseven]

Broncos passed on Allen a year after Bills traded out of the Mahomes spot (with Taylor as QB). It happens. Sutton and Jewel are still productive players for them. Chubb was good when healthy and fetched them another 1st. Not awful.

[Airseven]

3 hours ago, Chicharito said:

The year when buffalo picked maybin was the worst draft in nfl history by a team. 

That was a solid draft outside of Maybin. 2016 was worse.

[Freddie's Dead]

5 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

This would be an interesting topic: name the Buffalo Bills worst draft. For me, it’s 2000. 
 

Only Sammy Morris amounted to anything and that wasn’t much. Leif Larsen was picked 5 slots before Tom Brady. Dark times.

 

The 2014, 2015, 2016 Bills drafts were arguably as bad, if not worse.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

5 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

How about the Saints trading all of this for Ricky Williams:

 

1999 - 1st (12th Overall)

1999 - 3rd

1999 - 4th

1999 - 5th

1999 - 6th

1999 - 7th

2000 - 1st (2nd Overall)

2000 - 3rd

Just watched a YouTube documentary on this. 🤣🤣🤣 Ditka was smoking something for sure