Week 6: Bills at CHIEFS 10/16 4:25pm

[Franco_92]

2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Dude was panicking over guys having "limited" practices and was trying to argue that anyone with limited practices is not going to play. I was showing that everyone without a game status designation last week, including those who were limited in practice, played last week.

I was barely skimming and still followed what you did there lol

[Matt_In_NH]

Fantastic injury report.   I bet Phillips sits out and that is ok if he can get to 100%, he can be a difference maker.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, arcane said:

I was barely skimming and still followed what you did there lol

I realize what happened. People didn't read the whole thread. They just jumped to the newest post, which had an injury report on it as a large image. They reacted to that because the week of the report is not clearly labeled. 

[NewEra]

@Zerovoltz I’m trying to figure out who to play in fantasy this week.  McKenzie or Shakir.  How do you think those 2 guys match up with your boy Sneed?  Which has a better skill set to take advantage of sneeds deficiencies and the KC defensive game plan.  
 

i expect a strong bracket on Diggs.  Sneed will be playing the nickel the majority of the time?  If McDuffie plays, do you think he would start on the outside over Williams?  Or would sneed move outside?  I think both are best suited inside.  Thoughts?

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Our rookie CBs held up well, theirs might too. 

You're talking about Diggs. Can u DIG IT!! He's a bad mutha.. shut your mouth. He may show up to the stadium in his custom, double breasted leather jacket

[gonzo1105]

38 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

You're talking about Diggs. Can u DIG IT!! He's a bad mutha.. shut your mouth. He may show up to the stadium in his custom, double breasted leather jacket

Diggs has actually been pedestrian in games against the Chiefs. Need to see more pit of him in these games against them 

[f0neguy]

In the playoff game the Chiefs took Diggs out by doubling pretty much every play.  As a result, Gabe went off for 200+ with 4 TD’s.  I don’t care who catches the ball, if Josh throws for over 300 with 3-4 TD’s I think they’ll be fine.  (No turnovers would really help)

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, Process said:

I don't usually go this hard on TD props but the value is too good IMO. 

 

 

Bold bet.

[FLFan]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Bold bet.

All bets are a leap of faith but he is right.  Fantastic value at that payout.  I think it is no worse than 50/50 that Shakir scores.  

[Process]

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Bold bet.

All about value. If this game was played 7.5 times I would need Shakir to score once to break even.

 

It's definitely risky. We haven't seen McKenzie/Shakir/no Crowder yet. So not sure on playing time. But I like the odds. 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

@Zerovoltz I’m trying to figure out who to play in fantasy this week.  McKenzie or Shakir.  How do you think those 2 guys match up with your boy Sneed?  Which has a better skill set to take advantage of sneeds deficiencies and the KC defensive game plan.  
 

i expect a strong bracket on Diggs.  Sneed will be playing the nickel the majority of the time?  If McDuffie plays, do you think he would start on the outside over Williams?  Or would sneed move outside?  I think both are best suited inside.  Thoughts?

I like McKenzie over Shakir. He has better chemistry with Josh, has played big in games, and I think his speed is needed and will be utilized in the pasding game and a couple of runs. 

 

I'm most interested in seeing how the Chiefs secondary plays Diggs and Davis. Clearly, they chose to take Diggs away and Davis tourched them. I just don't see their secondary being able to to contain the Bills Wrs. The only way is if Josh has no time to throw. The Bills oline pass defense has been very good. I like the Bills offense here. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by newcam2012

[YoloinOhio]

Ummm, Dane?

 

 

[newcam2012]

6 minutes ago, FLFan said:

All bets are a leap of faith but he is right.  Fantastic value at that payout.  I think it is no worse than 50/50 that Shakir scores.  

I think 50-50 is pretty generous. The game total is high so that bolds well for scoring. My biggest concern is how much playing time does Shakir get? McKenzie's return certainly cuts into Shakir's snaps. How much do the Bills coaching staff trust the rookie in a big game? 

[Process]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ummm, Dane?

 

 

Omg it gets better

 

 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

Omg it gets better

 

 

Taron Johnson gone missing as well?

[Comebackkid]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

How do we defend Kelce?   Have Elam jam him at line?  Put Milano and Taron around him? 

Score more points

[FilthyBeast]

Can you imagine if the Bills drive down late in the 4th quarter and take a lead but give the Chiefs the ball back with 30 seconds or less again?

 

Just thinking about the collective pressure that would be on McD/Frazier/etc in that circumstance is almost hard to fathom as flashbacks to the playoff loss would be inevitable. Can only hope it doesn't come down to that again.

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Fair… what about the rest of the cluster ***** that happened after the kick off? 

 

3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Can you imagine if the Bills drive down late in the 4th quarter and take a lead but give the Chiefs the ball back with 30 seconds or less again?

 

Just thinking about the collective pressure that would be on McD/Frazier/etc in that circumstance is almost hard to fathom as flashbacks to the playoff loss would be inevitable. Can only hope it doesn't come down to that again.

 

[Zerovoltz]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

@Zerovoltz I’m trying to figure out who to play in fantasy this week.  McKenzie or Shakir.  How do you think those 2 guys match up with your boy Sneed?  Which has a better skill set to take advantage of sneeds deficiencies and the KC defensive game plan.  
 

i expect a strong bracket on Diggs.  Sneed will be playing the nickel the majority of the time?  If McDuffie plays, do you think he would start on the outside over Williams?  Or would sneed move outside?  I think both are best suited inside.  Thoughts?

 

I actually don't expect a brackett on Diggs.  Spags expects dudes to handle their side of the field.  Even rookie 4th and 7th rounders...who will be starting.  I DO NOT expect McDuffie out there.  He has practiced this week, but Ried VERY RARELY brings back dudes off long term injuries on one week of practice.  I'd say at this point he won't play.  Snead will be moved around the field and mostly play in the slot, whoever is there.  I suspect KC won't roll coverage to Diggs or Davis..but give two high look and play it straight up, with Snead or even one of the outside corners being called to blitz a couple times during the game.  

 

I think you'll see a very steady diet of 4 man rush, with Bolton spying Allen.  Spags will give some blitz looks and they'll almost always bail back.  Going to invite the Bills to run.  Going to try and force Allen to stay in place and pass.  

 

Jaylen Watson - Rookie 7th rounder starting on one side.

Joshua Williams - Rookie 4th rounder on the other.  

 

They won't follow a guy, but will play a side for the most part....I'd start whoever will be on the outside between McKenzie and Shair.

[YoloinOhio]

18 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I think 50-50 is pretty generous. The game total is high so that bolds well for scoring. My biggest concern is how much playing time does Shakir get? McKenzie's return certainly cuts into Shakir's snaps. How much do the Bills coaching staff trust the rookie in a big game? 

I think they trust him a lot. Prob more than lil dirty tbh 

[Rico]

10 hours ago, eball said:

It really is crazy that Patrick Mahomes is an underdog at home this week. For all the naysayers, that really says all you need to know about this Bills team. 
 

Let’s go, Buffalo!

 

19 and 1, BABY!!!!!!!!

 

Poz-lus-ney!!!

[YoloinOhio]

15 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Taron Johnson gone missing as well?

4 wide!

[JohnBonhamRocks]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

4 wide!

Nah according to that Tweeter they’ll just keep the guy Taron would cover on the sideline so he doesn’t play 

[Warcodered]

7 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Nah according to that Tweeter they’ll just keep the guy Taron would cover on the sideline so he doesn’t play 

We should tell them it's Kelce or something.

[JoPoy88]

28 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Taron Johnson gone missing as well?

did the guy even glance at a roster sheet before tweeting? 

[Scott7975]

28 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Can you imagine if the Bills drive down late in the 4th quarter and take a lead but give the Chiefs the ball back with 30 seconds or less again?

 

Just thinking about the collective pressure that would be on McD/Frazier/etc in that circumstance is almost hard to fathom as flashbacks to the playoff loss would be inevitable. Can only hope it doesn't come down to that again.

 

Im sure you are getting all tingly inside just thinking about it.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Anyone have a sense if Benford will play? I think he still had the red non-contact jersey on, so I assumed no. But then he isn’t listed on the injury report? 

[Scott7975]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Anyone have a sense if Benford will play? I think he still had the red non-contact jersey on, so I assumed no. But then he isn’t listed on the injury report? 

 

My guess is he will be active in case of injury or part time relief but wont see many snaps if at all.  Id rather have Elam out there than a guy with a club.  If Elam gets toasted all day maybe that changes.

[Johnnycage46]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

Can you imagine if the Bills drive down late in the 4th quarter and take a lead but give the Chiefs the ball back with 30 seconds or less again?

 

Just thinking about the collective pressure that would be on McD/Frazier/etc in that circumstance is almost hard to fathom as flashbacks to the playoff loss would be inevitable. Can only hope it doesn't come down to that again.

 

I'm sure you DON'T hope that happens again lol

45 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

did the guy even glance at a roster sheet before tweeting? 

 

Probably what he literally did...maybe on his phone while driving or something.  Surely didn't look for very long.

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

Can you imagine if the Bills drive down late in the 4th quarter and take a lead but give the Chiefs the ball back with 30 seconds or less again?

 

Just thinking about the collective pressure that would be on McD/Frazier/etc in that circumstance is almost hard to fathom as flashbacks to the playoff loss would be inevitable. Can only hope it doesn't come down to that again.

I'm thinking more like we are up by 13, ball on their 13 yard line, take a timeout with 13 seconds left and then JA throws a TD to #13! Will change the whole narrative on 13.😁

[eball]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

Can you imagine if the Bills drive down late in the 4th quarter and take a lead but give the Chiefs the ball back with 30 seconds or less again?

 

Just thinking about the collective pressure that would be on McD/Frazier/etc in that circumstance is almost hard to fathom as flashbacks to the playoff loss would be inevitable. Can only hope it doesn't come down to that again.

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Anyone have a sense if Benford will play? I think he still had the red non-contact jersey on, so I assumed no. But then he isn’t listed on the injury report? 

I think we will certainly see him on S/T, possible he gets some run at CB...but think Elam gets multiple series to start, and Benford only comes in if he's struggling.

 

I'm curious who our 5 inactive will be since these have been filled with injured players in weeks past...my guess:

1. Kumerow- obviously out

2. Phillips or Bryant - lean toward Phillips resting hammy.

3. Murray OL

4. Spector LB

5. Whose #5?  Cam Lewis? Or surprise Moss inactive.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Anyone have a sense if Benford will play? I think he still had the red non-contact jersey on, so I assumed no. But then he isn’t listed on the injury report? 

 

Maybe that's the Bills secret weapon against Kelce? Ever see what a hard casted clubbed hand can do if it mistakenly gets up a little too high on a jam at the LOS?

[ColoradoBills]

13 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

 

I'm curious who our 5 inactive will be since these have been filled with injured players in weeks past...my guess:

1. Kumerow- obviously out

2. Phillips or Bryant - lean toward Phillips resting hammy.

3. Murray OL

4. Spector LB

5. Whose #5?  Cam Lewis? Or surprise Moss inactive.

 

If Knox is fully ready to go, Sweeney is a possibility.

[The Wiz]

19 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe that's the Bills secret weapon against Kelce? Ever see what a hard casted clubbed hand can do if it mistakenly gets up a little too high on a jam at the LOS?

Like a billy club to the back of the leg.

[Scott7975]

 

[BigAl2526]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe that's the Bills secret weapon against Kelce? Ever see what a hard casted clubbed hand can do if it mistakenly gets up a little too high on a jam at the LOS?

I think Benford will play.  Dane Jackson will start.  I don't know whether Elam or Benford will start across from Jackson, but I think both will have reps. 

[boyst]

3 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

I actually don't expect a brackett on Diggs.  Spags expects dudes to handle their side of the field.  Even rookie 4th and 7th rounders...who will be starting.  I DO NOT expect McDuffie out there.  He has practiced this week, but Ried VERY RARELY brings back dudes off long term injuries on one week of practice.  I'd say at this point he won't play.  Snead will be moved around the field and mostly play in the slot, whoever is there.  I suspect KC won't roll coverage to Diggs or Davis..but give two high look and play it straight up, with Snead or even one of the outside corners being called to blitz a couple times during the game.  

 

I think you'll see a very steady diet of 4 man rush, with Bolton spying Allen.  Spags will give some blitz looks and they'll almost always bail back.  Going to invite the Bills to run.  Going to try and force Allen to stay in place and pass.  

 

Jaylen Watson - Rookie 7th rounder starting on one side.

Joshua Williams - Rookie 4th rounder on the other.  

 

They won't follow a guy, but will play a side for the most part....I'd start whoever will be on the outside between McKenzie and Shair.

Dorsey needs to open up pre snap motion against rookie CB's and with a defense that doesn't have leadership in the backfield necessary to make the calls. 

 

My early move is to move Knox out wide in presnap with Gillam motioning to the wing/flanker. Who they want to cover with Singleterry in the backfield in 21 personnel is going to be 1 key.

 

If I'm the Chiefs I have to extend my nickel against Knox, LBs 1 on 1 to Gillam and Singleterry. The safeties have to be cover 2 deep.

 

This can let Singleterry run a route or block. A dump off works. Davis is going right down the sideline deep seam split decoy. 

 

But my first play is a screen to Singleterry from this formation. I set a basis for what the Chiefs want to do.

 

I line right back up at the LoS. Diggs 7 yard out post. Knox runs inside. Davis stutters at the line boxes his man out. Play action to Singleterry. Gillam has already leaded to the next level and can block.

 

We keep the personnel package the same series. We don't sub. We don't run high octane. We don't huddle. 

 

3rd play, we pass. Singleterry blocks, Gillam blocks.  We see what they want to do with who coming in the pocket. 

 

Shall I continue? 

 

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

If Knox is fully ready to go, Sweeney is a possibility.

Wrong post.  Too late now. But in reference to who we make inactive...

Sweeney, kunerow, Murray, Spector, Lawson

 

A 50% Phillips is more valuable then an edge contain Lawson. 

Edited October 15, 2022 by Boyst62

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

I like Lawson in this matchup. He doesn’t get to the qb but he keeps the qb from escaping (and throwing ) from his side out of the pocket. He plays lamar so well. Mahomes kills the Bills rolling right

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2022 by Tom Donahoe, GM

[Scott7975]

🤣 At least he doesnt just troll here 🤣