AFC East Will Be Not A Given

[Motorin']

The AFC East will not be a given, it will be a taken. 

[Freddie's Dead]

Yes, it will.

[Dablitzkrieg]

Buffalo is head and shoulders better than any team in the division.  I don't think you will ever see Tua do that again unless broken coverage continues.   This was an anomaly 

[Motor26]

I hope Miami can give us a game, would make it more interesting to watch than the usual beat downs. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

5 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

I hope Miami can give us a game, would make it more interesting to watch than the usual beat downs. 

 

I enjoy the beat downs. 

[Punching Bag]

6 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Trap games don't exist.

 

If Billi-cheat can find a way to use traps Krafty will pay for them.  

Sorry to offend the dopeys.

[JoPoy88]

8 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

The Dolphins (And Tua) look good, the Bills will do good just to split. The Pats will plod along, and not be an easy win. The Jets are better, and if Wilson matures, will not be sure win. The Bills sweeping the east is over!  

lol you fish fans are funny

[Utah John]

Most of the AFC will be a tough out.  The more the other teams beat each other up, the better.  Whether Miami beat Baltimore or vice versa, the important thing is that someone got an L.  The only real good news is that the Bengals and Raiders are 0-2 and the Colts are collapsing. 

5 hours ago, Motor26 said:

I hope Miami can give us a game, would make it more interesting to watch than the usual beat downs. 

I actually enjoy watching the Bills rip the guts out of the fish. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 hours ago, Simon said:

 

 

Who are these imaginary people you guys are raging against? 

Check the gameday thread.

[GunnerBill]

12 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Allen's dominance over Miami thus far is a great statistic but those were far different teams that what Miami is fielding this year.

 

Yep. That was when they could actually play defense. 

[machine gun kelly]

13 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

The Dolphins (And Tua) look good, the Bills will do good just to split. The Pats will plod along, and not be an easy win. The Jets are better, and if Wilson matures, will not be sure win. The Bills sweeping the east is over!  

 

 

You're a funny guy.  Funny like you amuse us.  You Hendry, I think you’ll crack unda questionin.

 

Dude, we’re winning the East!  Get over the fear mongering.  We just decimated the World Champions by 21 pts.

[BreezeMafia]

13 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

The Dolphins (And Tua) look good, the Bills will do good just to split. The Pats will plod along, and not be an easy win. The Jets are better, and if Wilson matures, will not be sure win. The Bills sweeping the east is over!  

Miami took advantage of a Rookie D Coordinator and Ravens Secondary Youth.  JA17 will do the same when he gets his hands on the Ravnes in 2 weeks.  Miami has improved, but lets not over react to yesterday's MIA - BAL score just yet.

[GunnerBill]

I have no issue with people wanting to pump up the Dolphins. Just so long as those same people don't disappear if the Bills beat them next week. 

[eball]

What does Buffalo do better than any defense in the league?  Stop the big play.  What has the Ravens’ defense done the past two seasons?  Get absolutely torched by competent offenses.

 

It’s week two of overreactions, and while nobody can take away the gaudy stats Tuna and the Fish just put up, I’m not ready to say “they’ve arrived” and both of those defenses look like garbage.

 

[H2o]

14 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

The Dolphins (And Tua) look good, the Bills will do good just to split. The Pats will plod along, and not be an easy win. The Jets are better, and if Wilson matures, will not be sure win. The Bills sweeping the east is over!  

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, eball said:

What does Buffalo do better than any defense in the league?  Stop the big play.  What has the Ravens’ defense done the past two seasons?  Get absolutely torched by competent offenses.

 

It’s week two of overreactions, and while nobody can take away the gaudy stats Tuna and the Fish just put up, I’m not ready to say “they’ve arrived” and both of those defenses look like garbage.

 

Well I remember a 70 yard TD run by NE during the hurricane game where NE through <5X's.....  

 

Oh & Tyreek burning us in the playoffs for 66 yds(actually was a good thing getting the ball back, but with 13 seconds to much on the clock😉).

 

Unfortunately big plays happen....

[mjt328]

I think most of the Buffalo fanbase suffers from PTSD, from all these years of suffering and heartbreak. 

Can we not feel secure about our team's season, unless every other franchise in the NFL looks like complete trash?  Half of this board went into a total panic mid-afternoon Sunday, under the sudden realization that one of our division rivals might win double-digit games this year. 

 

Hey everyone... It's OK if the Dolphins have a good team.  It's OK if the Chiefs are still really good too.  We can still win a Super Bowl if the AFC East and #1 seed isn't in the bag by Thanksgiving.  Let's all try to relax and breathe.  The Bills are heavy favorites to win the Super Bowl because OUR TEAM is exceptional.   Not because everyone else is expected to suck.  If we stay healthy, stay focused and handle our business, the Bills should still win the AFC East.

 

Miami had 9 wins last season, and 10 wins the season before.  Anyone who expected them to be a total pushover this season was in denial.  They already had a strong defense.  And having two weapons on the outside like Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle was going to cause problems for quite a few defenses.

 

With that said, I have watched a good chunk of both Dolphins games this year.  Their offense managed 13 points in Week 1.  They had 7 points at halftime yesterday and 14 points at the end of the 3rd Quarter.  The Ravens defense started playing very soft when the score was 28-7, and their defensive backs barely made an effort to stop the touchdown throw to Mike Gesicki.  They totally blew the coverage on the tying touchdown to Hill and he was open by about 30 yards in every direction.  It was a great comeback.  But let's not pretend their offense is totally unstoppable.  

 

Since Josh Allen became our QB, the Bills are 7-1 against the Dolphins.  The only loss was the infamous Charles Clay endzone drop.  In those wins, our offense has put up 42, 31, 37, 56, 31, 26 and 35 points.  Our defensive scheme is built to stop the big play.  Although it certainly won't be a given with (possibly) two rookie corners on the outside, there is no reason to be scared.  They have shown zero ability to slow us down on the other side.

 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Well I remember a 70 yard TD run by NE during the hurricane game where NE through <5X's.....  

 

Oh & Tyreek burning us in the playoffs for 66 yds(actually was a good thing getting the ball back, but with 13 seconds to much on the clock😉).

 

Unfortunately big plays happen....

 

Based on history, the Dolphins will need about 4-5 plays like that to keep up with our offense.

 

Edited September 19, 2022 by mjt328

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

I think most of the Buffalo fanbase suffers from PTSD, from all these years of suffering and heartbreak. 

Can we not feel secure about our team's season, unless every other franchise in the NFL looks like complete trash?  Half of this board went into a total panic mid-afternoon Sunday, under the sudden realization that one of our division rivals might win double-digit games this year. 

 

Hey everyone... It's OK if the Dolphins have a good team.  It's OK if the Chiefs are still really good too.  We can still win a Super Bowl if the AFC East and #1 seed isn't in the bag by Thanksgiving.  Let's all try to relax and breathe.  The Bills are heavy favorites to win the Super Bowl because OUR TEAM is exceptional.   Not because everyone else is expected to suck.  If we stay healthy, stay focused and handle our business, the Bills should still win the AFC East.

 

Miami had 9 wins last season, and 10 wins the season before.  Anyone who expected them to be a total pushover this season was in denial.  They already had a strong defense.  And having two weapons on the outside like Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle was going to cause problems for quite a few defenses.

 

With that said, I have watched a good chunk of both Dolphins games this year.  Their offense managed 13 points in Week 1.  They had 7 points at halftime yesterday and 14 points at the end of the 3rd Quarter.  The Ravens defense started playing very soft when the score was 28-7, and their defensive backs barely made an effort to stop the touchdown throw to Mike Gesicki.  They totally blew the coverage on the tying touchdown to Hill and he was open by about 30 yards in every direction.  It was a great comeback.  But let's not pretend their offense is totally unstoppable.  

 

Since Josh Allen became our QB, the Bills are 7-1 against the Dolphins.  The only loss was the infamous Charles Clay endzone drop.  In those wins, our offense has put up 42, 31, 37, 56, 31, 26 and 35 points.  Our defensive scheme is built to stop the big play.  Although it certainly won't be a given with (possibly) two rookie corners on the outside, there is no reason to be scared.  They have shown zero ability to slow us down on the other side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Based on history, the Dolphins will need about 4-5 plays like that to keep up with our offense.

 

Sanity, at last

 

[Don Otreply]

15 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

The Dolphins (And Tua) look good, the Bills will do good just to split. The Pats will plod along, and not be an easy win. The Jets are better, and if Wilson matures, will not be sure win. The Bills sweeping the east is over!  

“ That Guy “  

 

😆😁😂

[H2o]

We'll see how good the depth is tonight against Tennessee. If we, even with injuries along the interior DL, still get pressure on Tannehill and find a way to contain Henry then I'm not worried about Miami. Our defense is predicated on keeping everything in front of them, which is perfect for how Tua and Miami are running their offense. If our front four terrorizes Tua the way I expect, then he'll be throwing wobblers and seeing ghosts all game long. One big game, against a defense that seemingly rolled over, is not a cause for concern in my book. Flacco had 307yds, 4 TD's, and 0 INT's against the Browns yesterday as well. Do we think his career is now revived?  Until this becomes consistent, and not just a spot occurrence against a suspect defense, I'll hold my judgments. Are they better than last year though (Miami), especially on offense? Yes, and they should be because of the addition of Tyreek Hill. 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

You know what is even more impressive than a 21 point comeback....Not going down by 21 points in the first place.  Miami allowed the Ravens to score 21 points in the 2nd quarter!  That is 3 less points than the Jets allowed all game in their matchup with the Ravens.  Let's pump the brakes on Miami being a world beater.  They were losing by 21 points and gave up 38 total.  Tua and the WRs had a great 2nd half.  Baltimore defense had a complete meltdown.  That comeback doesn't happen against the Bills secondary.

Edited September 19, 2022 by HereComesTheReignAgain

[eball]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Well I remember a 70 yard TD run by NE during the hurricane game where NE through <5X's.....  

 

Oh & Tyreek burning us in the playoffs for 66 yds(actually was a good thing getting the ball back, but with 13 seconds to much on the clock😉).

 

Unfortunately big plays happen....

 

Dude.  Outliers occur, but look at the stats.  Nobody limits big plays better than the Bills.  It has been true for three years running.

 

[Billsfan1972]

48 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Dude.  Outliers occur, but look at the stats.  Nobody limits big plays better than the Bills.  It has been true for three years running.

 

Huge plays at the worst times are the ones we remember (add Hail Mary vs. Arizona).  

 

All three that I mention were inexcusable as they all resulted in losses at inopportune times. 

 

NE didn't even pretend to pass the ball and we allow a 70 yard run????

Edited September 19, 2022 by Billsfan1972

[Big Turk]

This reminds me of how Fitz used to get us off to hot starts and then we would be talking trash and saying how we were going to win the division and to bring on NE and then they would come in here and crush our soul.

 

Probably about what is going to happen next week down in Miami to Fin fans.

[PatsFanNH]

39 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

You know what is even more impressive than a 21 point comeback....Not going down by 21 points in the first place.  Miami allowed the Ravens to score 21 points in the 2nd quarter!  That is 3 less points than the Jets allowed all game in their matchup with the Ravens.  Let's pump the brakes on Miami being a world beater.  They were losing by 21 points and gave up 38 total.  Tua and the WRs had a great 2nd half.  Baltimore defense had a complete meltdown.  That comeback doesn't happen against the Bills secondary.

Don’t forget the Tavens O also fell asleep the entire second half to allow the comeback to happen. Just one long drive eating a ton of clock and getting any points at all and they win. 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Don’t forget the Tavens O also fell asleep the entire second half to allow the comeback to happen. Just one long drive eating a ton of clock and getting any points at all and they win. 

 

The Ravens DBs inexplicably stopped being able to execute even the most basic coverage assignments and had multiple blown coverages in the second half.  How is that even possible in an NFL game??  That might literally be the worst half of DB play I have ever seen in my life.

[Steel City Mafia]

Subject to chance of course depending on how they look tonight

[RoyBatty is alive]

I bet that would have been 7 before Miami's win yesterday.  I am still not a Tua believer.  To me it was more like a total defensive collapse on the part of the Ravens.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I bet that would have been 7 before Miami's win yesterday.  I am still not a Tua believer.  To me it was more like a total defensive collapse on the part of the Ravens.

A comeback like that has to be a bit of both...

[mannc]

7 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said:

Subject to chance of course depending on how they look tonight

Seems about right…Vegas absolutely loves the Bills this year.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

I think buffalo should be able to take care of business with Miami.  They don't seem to have fixed their issues with running the ball- buffalo is rarely caught out of position/beat deep, and they usually tackle fairly well.  They've had problems with Hill before but they're looking for front 4 pressure.  

 

Their defense doesn't seem very intimidating to me.  

[KDIGGZ]

Is there a game we won't be favored in? Maybe KC?

[Niagara Dude]

11 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said:

Subject to chance of course depending on how they look tonight

Just happy we can get back to a normal Sunday 1pm start,  makes things better for chats and coverage after the game.  Not a fan of these games not played on Sunday either at 1pm or 4 pm

[Process]

3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I bet that would have been 7 before Miami's win yesterday.  I am still not a Tua believer.  To me it was more like a total defensive collapse on the part of the Ravens.

It was -4.5 before yesterday.

 

And after the dolphins historic win that showed they are the new kings of the east and has bills fans shaking in their boots, they are -4.5. 

 

Lol

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Process said:

It was -4.5 before yesterday.

 

And after the dolphins historic win that showed they are the new kings of the east and has bills fans shaking in their boots, they are -4.5. 

 

Lol

 

It seems over the last few years, the Ravens defense has communication issues or something.  They give up a lot of big plays and have many blown coverages.

They fired Martindale and now they still have the same issues.

[Freddie's Dead]

-4.5 seems low.  Take the Bills giving the points.

[Sharky7337]

Weren't their two best corners out or something?

[Dablitzkrieg]

Josh is their Daddy 👨 

[machine gun kelly]

27 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I bet that would have been 7 before Miami's win yesterday.  I am still not a Tua believer.  To me it was more like a total defensive collapse on the part of the Ravens.

Well the guys in the desert were giving home teams 1.7 pts. Vs. the traditional 3, so to me that means 6.2 pts really as the Bills have played well with Allen away.  Besides, there will be 25,000 Bills fans down in the swamps of Miami.

 

I’m not going to crap on Tua or the Fins for a significant win with Baltimore, but the Ravens aren’t the 2022 Bills.  It actually gives me even more comfort we will be 5-0 going into KC.  A Ravens team weaker than expected, a better Miami team, but they still aren’t us.  I’m not concerned at all about Pitt.

Edited September 19, 2022 by machine gun kelly

[Marvin]

17 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

The Dolphins (And Tua) look good, the Bills will do good just to split. The Pats will plod along, and not be an easy win. The Jets are better, and if Wilson matures, will not be sure win. The Bills sweeping the east is over!  

There were never any "sure wins" to begin with; that's why they play the games.

 

"The Bills will do good just to split"?  You are saying that it is clearly more likely that Miami sweeps Buffalo than the reverse based on not even 2 weeks' worth of games.  Aren't you jumping the gun just a tad?  Are you saying that Tua is what Allen should be or that the Bills' defence against the Rams was a mirage?  Explain yourself in detail with logic, statistics, and game analysis please, because I don't see it.