Roundybout Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 OJ Howard is such a disappointment but honestly not that surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: OJ Howard is such a disappointment but honestly not that surprising. Thinking back to the day he was signed and the number of us that got excited about two tight end sets, definitely a disappointment. I’m not sure we see him in the NFL again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) I’m not sure we’ve officially cut anyone yet today, but going off reports I think I’m right in saying the below have apparently been so: RB - Duke Johnson, Raheem Blackshear WR - Tanner Gentry TE - OJ Howard OL - Alec Anderson, Luke Tenuta DL - CJ Brewer, Brandin Bryant, Prince Emili I’ve probably missed some so say if so! Edited August 30, 2022 by UKBillFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Last year for sure… 2020 their offense was also awful in the championship game… they’ve overcompensated defensively IMO. Hopefully it won’t matter and they win the SB regardless! I would hate to be your wife. You just seem like the kind of guy who would spend the whole time pointing out flaws… 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: They do seem to be giving Josh the Aaron Rodgers treatment with the seeming disdain for spending any high draft pick on offensive weaponry. I mean we did trade a 1st round pick 2 years ago for Diggs and then extended him. The Packers traded away Davante Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: They do seem to be giving Josh the Aaron Rodgers treatment with the seeming disdain for spending any high draft pick on offensive weaponry. What is a 2nd round RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, UKBillFan said: I’m not sure we’ve officially cut anyone yet today, but going off reports I think I’m right in saying the below have apparently been so: RB - Duke Johnson WR - Tanner Gentry TE - OJ Howard OL - Alec Anderson, Luke Tenuta DL - CJ Brewer, Brandin Bryant, Prince Emili Blackshear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 OJ Howard sucks. Not sure why we even signed a guy after an achilles injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, MiltonWaddams said: Blackshear Remembered him just as I hit post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes. So, do you think all 3 of Bryant, Anderson and Blackshear make the PS? I think Bryant has the best chances to get claimed. Does anyone sign Duke Johnson? I think it's a good chance. I am thinking Blackshear may be safe there, most teams already have A RB they like and he knows the system. There is no doubt the Bills will lose players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: I’m not sure we’ve officially cut anyone yet today, but going off reports I think I’m right in saying the below have apparently been so: RB - Duke Johnson WR - Tanner Gentry TE - OJ Howard OL - Alec Anderson, Luke Tenuta DL - CJ Brewer, Brandin Bryant, Prince Emili Hodgkin is not being seen, neither is Johnson and one of the OL you don’t have listed Edited August 30, 2022 by djp14150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I mean we did trade a 1st round pick 2 years ago for Diggs and then extended him. The Packers traded away Davante Adams. True. Was more a commentary on Green Bay's draft history vis-a-vis McBeane's. SO many DL drafted high, none producing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, djp14150 said: Hodgkin is not being seen, neither is Johnson, braeshear, one of the OL you don’t have listed Not been seen but I don’t think Hodgins has been reported as cut yet. ETA - Same goes for Tanner Owen, I think. Edited August 30, 2022 by UKBillFan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes. So, do you think all 3 of Bryant, Anderson and Blackshear make the PS? I think Bryant has the best chances to get claimed. Does anyone sign Duke Johnson? I think it's a good chance. I think the Bills recognize that Bradin, Eli, and Prince on the DL all are PS potential players that they will cut today. If Bryant gets picked up - they have 2 other guys in the wings to make due. The same goes with Blackshear and Duke Johnson. There is a good chance 1 of the 2 is available to go onto the PS. I will be interested to see Anderson and OL depth to the PS. Bobby Hart and Van Rotten both have more than 4 years so like Barkley - one or both may already have a PS position lined up to get people through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Didn't Dorsey say exactly the opposite? That he is just FB in his offense? I might have misread something. That's all good Yolo. If he sucks I am fine with keeping better players. I just think this is a huge huge miss on Beane's part. $3M dead cap is a lot for a player without a snap for the Bills. I know nobody sees the future and I will keep assessing Beane based on his overall work but this one hurts. More than any of his moves in recent memory. 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I am as disappointed as you. I liked the Howard pick up as a low risk, high reward offensive piece and I am really disappointed it has failed. In terms of passing targets for Josh it is really Sanders and Beasley out, Crowder (low ceiling vet), Shakir (5th round rookie) and Cook (2nd round rookie receiving back) in. Have they done enough? Only time will tell but it is a legit question to ask. I'm with Gunner on this. While disappointed Howard didn't work out as planned, I thought the pick up was an excellent. Sometimes you need to take a swing, but of course all swings don't result in hits. If Beane stops taking calculated shots like this, I'll be far more concerned. I don't like the lost $$$, but in today's game that isn't a huge hit--it is very manageable. Keeping Howard on the roster, after he didn't earn the spot, would have been a HUGE mistake, IMO. Swing and a miss? Yes indeed. Major mistake? Hardly, IMO. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: They do seem to be giving Josh the Aaron Rodgers treatment with the seeming disdain for spending any high draft pick on offensive weaponry. They prioritized the offense through free agency and trades. And they also spent two 2nd round draft picks on RB's, and another on a guard. The offense is very good and has very good players. Doesn't matter if they were drafted high or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: OJ Howard sucks. Not sure why we even signed a guy after an achilles injury. He was a 1st round disappointment well before that injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I would hate to be your wife. You just seem like the kind of guy who would spend the whole time pointing out flaws… “If I Were Your Wife I’d Put Poison in Your Tea!” “If I Were Your Husband I’d Drink It” Winston Churchill 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, MJS said: They prioritized the offense through free agency and trades. And they also spent two 2nd round draft picks on RB's, and another on a guard. The offense is very good and has very good players. Doesn't matter if they were drafted high or not. They have very good starters at the skill positions, yes. They have average to slightly above average OL at the starting positions. They have arguably the best QB in the league that makes them all look better than they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Last year for sure… 2020 their offense was also awful in the championship game… they’ve overcompensated defensively at the expense of the offense IMO. Hopefully it won’t matter and they win the SB regardless! The Chiefs offense absolutely was terrible in the second half against the Bengals in the AFCCG. The Chiefs overcompensated by having their first 2 draft picks on defense and then trading Tyreek Hill. Good moves? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Dean said: I'm with Gunner on this. While disappointed Howard didn't work out as planned, I thought the pick up was an excellent. Sometimes you need to take a swing, but of course all swings don't result in hits. If Beane stops taking calculated shots like this, I'll be far more concerned. I don't like the lost $$$, but in today's game that isn't a huge hit--it is very manageable. Keeping Howard on the roster, after he didn't earn the spot, would have been a HUGE mistake, IMO. Swing and a miss? Yes indeed. Major mistake? Hardly, IMO. Nope, Beane should be fired for the job he’s done! 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: They have very good starters at the skill positions, yes. They have average to slightly above average OL at the starting positions. They have arguably the best QB in the league that makes them all look better than they are. I'm hopeful of your middle statement but not convinced yet. New starters, new OL coach... let's see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Not been seen but I don’t think Hodgins has been reported as cut yet. ETA - Same goes for Tanner Owen, I think. Wasn't Tanner Owen released yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: If I remember correctly the *Pats gained about 220 yards total in that game. You do remember correctly. 220 Yds rushing when everyone in the entire stadium knew they were not going to throw the ball. That's my point. The Dline was incapable of consistently stopping the run, especially in key situations - even when they knew it was going to be a run. They lacked the talent to play at an elite level. The offense, on the other hand, was capable of playing at an elite level in any game they played. I have stated over and over that I wanted upgrades on offense, particularly along the Oline. It needed it as well. But, IMO, the Dline needed it as much or more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, hondo in seattle said: I'm hopeful of your middle statement but not convinced yet. New starters, new OL coach... let's see. I mean Dawkins and Morse are for sure. Bates CAN be. I don't know what Saffold is yet. And Spencer, while entertaining, has to prove it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I am thinking Blackshear may be safe there, most teams already have A RB they like and he knows the system. There is no doubt the Bills will lose players The way I see it is if they only lose 2 guys to waivers and maybe Duke Johnson to a signing it would be ok. If 3 or more guys get picked up it will weaken the PS enough to be a bit of a concern. Beane will fill it out the best he can but it's always good having guys that have spent time in the system. 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I think the Bills recognize that Bradin, Eli, and Prince on the DL all are PS potential players that they will cut today. If Bryant gets picked up - they have 2 other guys in the wings to make due. The same goes with Blackshear and Duke Johnson. There is a good chance 1 of the 2 is available to go onto the PS. I will be interested to see Anderson and OL depth to the PS. Bobby Hart and Van Rotten both have more than 4 years so like Barkley - one or both may already have a PS position lined up to get people through. Agree with the logic. Anderson is probably safe, but you never know with OL. He was the only one that seemed worth anything when it came to the 3rd string OL. Be nice to keep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, billsfan1959 said: But, IMO, the Dline needed it as much or more. Not for lack of trying. Over and over and over and over again. 2 1sts and 2 2nds spent in the past what, 6 years on the DL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Wasn't Tanner Owen released yesterday? Yep, as per the tweet on page one. The reporters on Twitter seem to have missed it too. 😊 Think that’s the last time I try and compile a list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Simon said: Buffalo Bills Cut Tracker thanks for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Regarding OJ Howard being cut: I will simply say that I think the Bills made it a priority to significantly improve their TE2 spot in the past couple years, and they seem to have failed to do so. In 2020 they tried and failed to bring in Greg Olsen. Last season, they tried and failed to bring in Zach Ertz. There was also a rumor (for which I do not have proof) that they tried to trade for Evan Engram. This offseason, they were heavily rumored to be trying to sign Evan Engram, but he wound up making more on the open market than the Bills were comfortable paying. Furthermore, I think that had they been able to sign JD McKissic or Chase Edmonds (both of whom they targeted, both of whom chose other teams), there's a decent chance they would have used their second round pick on a tight end. They worked out Trey McBride, Jelani Woods, and others prior to the draft. In any case, they failed to bring in a quality TE2 via trade, free agency, or the draft. Morris and Sweeney both look to be JAGs. Given all that we heard about the desire to employ more pro sets, and given Beane's history of not giving up on something once he begins pursuing it...I can't help but wonder if Beane will continue to try to find an upgrade at TE2, either via cuts or trade. As it stands now, I'd rather have McKenzie on the field than Sweeney or Morris. If the main purpose of each play is to put maximum stress on the defense, then 12 personnel does not seem to be very advisable at this moment. Edited August 30, 2022 by Logic 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Kumerow really has the special teams edge going for him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Not for lack of trying. Over and over and over and over again. 2 1sts and 2 2nds spent in the past what, 6 years on the DL? Well, I don't think you can look strictly at the draft. You have to look at free agency (i.e.; Morse, Beasley) and trades (i.e.; Diggs) as well. As a whole, I would have liked more emphasis on the Oline. They have a QB that could end up being the best to ever play the game. I would like for the team to continually ensure he has a top Oline in front of him. From that perspective I don't disagree with you. My argument has been about this past offseason. I believe the Dline, in spite of the (failed) resources put into in past years, needed an drastic upgrade. Given their cap room in free agency and the way the draft played out, I think they had to make some hard choices. I believe this team, this year, will benefit more from what they did defensively - along with the addition of Kromer to the coaching staff. Edited August 30, 2022 by billsfan1959 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Hodgins is a fringe NFL player at WR. Guys like him don’t last long if they can’t contribute elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I think Beane’s next move will be to sign Taiwan to a 28 year extension, thereby taking him all the way to his first year of Social Security eligibility. Better sign him soon, while he can still remember his name. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just think if Beane didn’t build such a great roster he would be able to keep Blackshear and Hodgins! What a tomato can of a GM. 4 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, hemma said: I think Beane’s next move will be to sign Taiwan to a 28 year extension, thereby taking him all the way to his first year of Social Security eligibility. Better sign him soon, while he can still remember his name. Just don't tell the CCP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Just think if Beane didn’t build such a great roster he would be able to keep Blackshear and Hodgins! What a tomato can of a GM. Kroger Brand tomato can, to boot. It's been a horrible, no good week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, wppete said: thanks for nothing. agreed but also grateful I didn't fall for a Peter Pan on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsFanSD said: Just don't tell the CCP. awesome. my like button stopped working but that was clever. nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Forgive me for asking, but in this 31 page long thread about Bills cuts, is there any way to find.................... the actual cuts? This may be up-thread Also Blackshear not seen Edited August 30, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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