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Will the Browns regret it … Mayfield named as starter in Carolina


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2 hours ago, Steptide said:

 wouldn't be surprised if Darnold ends up here as a backup at some point in the next few years 

Why?  He sucks.  There is absolutely no reason to believe Darnold would be a better backup than Keenum or Barkley.

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    New out of camp and practice is Mayfield looks marginally better than Darnold.

    The argument can and has been made that Darnold has a half year of extra time with Mcadoo.  
    There is also a lot of hometown hope/hype in Charlotte. 
    To my eye, this is an 8 win team and Mayfield will win them a couple extra games vs Darnold. If McCaffrey actually stays on the field and isn’t overused maybe they are a 10 win team.

    

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3 minutes ago, mannc said:

Why?  He sucks.  There is absolutely no reason to believe Darnold would be a better backup than Keenum or Barkley.

 

Sure, but in "the next few years" Keenum and Barkley will be pretty up there in age...

 

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1 hour ago, Dopey said:

I guess some have forgotten that Mayfield led the Browns to their 1st playoff appearance since 2002 AND won a playoff game that year(2020). He was injured last year(2021) and it showed. That's nothing to sneeze at. 

A further look into him reveals he’s a childish punk who played with great talent. When Cleveland doesn’t want you, get out the hankies, cuz there a sneeze fest a-coming.

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1 hour ago, london_bills said:

Beane wanted darnold that year! Just sayin

Nah, was never gonna happen,  he was an interception machine in college and sucked when under pressure, that and he had not much up side to speak of, nothing has changed  for Sam in the NFL.  Beane is smarter than to take such a player.

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2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Heaven Forbid! We all knew he reached his apex in college. Been completely downhill since. 
Lamar & Josh. Period. So much hype for that class. So little to show, sans Allen & Jackson


to be fair, two big time qbs is a pretty great class by most standards. 

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Mayfield played injured all last year. In Buffalo he would have been called a true football player that played with toughness. In Cleveland they shipped him out for a serial sex offender.  I think he is better than game manager but he is not a top 10 guy, probably somewhere around 15.  Average enough that Cleveland with that roster would have pushed for a division title this year.  Mayfield almost beat KC in the playoffs two years ago.  

The problem is the rest of Carolina's roster is not that good

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2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/panthers-name-baker-mayfield-as-starting-quarterback-for-2022-season

 

Looks like Darnold’s NFL career is on the downslope.  Will be interesting to see in Mayfield plays up to his draft hype and potential in a different setting.  Odds are certainly against him.


the way Carolina has been operating 

Baker may not be far behind 

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Most important year of Baker’s career. Will either garner him starting job and 2nd contract next year or relegate him to a backup role. 

It is really his last shot to hang onto a starting job in the league.  Not only does he have to perform but he also has to stay healthy and available. With about 6 projected first round QB's headed to the 2023 draft, some borderline guys will be headed to duty as clipboard holders.  Personally, when I see him play, I put him in the category of Chase Daniel or Case Keenum.  Good enough to be a very good backup but not a starter.

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3 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/panthers-name-baker-mayfield-as-starting-quarterback-for-2022-season

 

Looks like Darnold’s NFL career is on the downslope.  Will be interesting to see in Mayfield plays up to his draft hype and potential in a different setting.  Odds are certainly against him.

I would state the one odds in his favor is that Cleveland is so dysfunctional that no one can be good there. But truly few guys put it together after his beginning.

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50 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

A further look into him reveals he’s a childish punk who played with great talent. When Cleveland doesn’t want you, get out the hankies, cuz there a sneeze fest a-coming.

And led them to their 1st playoff appearance AND victory in almost 2 decades. Childish punk aside, sounds similar to our QB. Now, back to this "little to show, sans Allen & Jackson"...

 

 

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I don't think the Panthers have a winning record this year, but it would not surprise me to see him get another prove it contract from the Panthers.  He has a legit arm, its just that he is , well, a cultural problem at times.   I think the insurance company needs to drop him, though.

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In hindsight, trading a decent qb for a sex offender might be a mistake. But if you take the sex offender part out, Watson is a borderline top 5 qb and Baker is an average nfl starter. 
 

sums up life as a Browns fan. You can be good but you need to actively cheer for a sex offender. Cleveland rocks!

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3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

In hindsight, trading a decent qb for a sex offender might be a mistake. But if you take the sex offender part out, Watson is was a borderline top 5 qb and Baker is an average nfl starter. 
 

 

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In the 2018 draft, Mayfield was my guy. That's who I wanted us to draft leading up to it. I thought he processed well, was accurate to all levels of the field, and he had that chip on his shoulder. I'm beyond happy we have Allen instead. Hopefully, the situation in Cleveland has caused him to do some real introspection and he grows from it. I wouldn't be surprised if he has the best year of his career this season in Carolina. Will he ever be elite? I doubt it. I do think he could play himself into the upper half of QB's in the league though. 

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4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Heaven Forbid! We all knew he reached his apex in college. Been completely downhill since. 
Lamar & Josh. Period. So much hype for that class. So little to show, sans Allen & Jackson

Not completely downhill. Don't forget, the Browns were 1-31 in the 2 seasons before he got there. 

 

30-30 as a starter, 1-1 in the playoffs.

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I expect Baker to play pretty well. He was hurt last year. Prior, he displayed some positive signs for a young QB and led them to the playoffs. He has a massive chip on his shoulder. Cleveland did not want to find themselves at the end of a contract while not knowing how long or even if they wanted to extend. What if he played decent and takes you to the playoffs again? Do you hitch your wagon even if you aren't 110% sure? You know on Bakers side he would be asking for a mint. Cleveland opted to spend excessive money for a player with the skills they 110% felt were high enough despite the baggage. That's what this was all about. In the end, as much as people hate all that has happened with Watson if he takes Cleveland to a Super Bowl the events over the last year become a footnote. Sad, but that is the state of sports worship. Personally, I think both teams will likely come away fairly happy. That is also a possible outcome in this.  

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He's been hurt. I think he's a very good QB - he almost beat KC in the playoffs a few years back.

 

I think he's still going to do really well. I think the Browns already regret it. I feel pretty bad for Browns fans.  They were close to making the kind of "transition to contender" progression that we had....but they might be back to square 1 now.

 

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15 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/panthers-name-baker-mayfield-as-starting-quarterback-for-2022-season

 

Looks like Darnold’s NFL career is on the downslope.  Will be interesting to see in Mayfield plays up to his draft hype and potential in a different setting.  Odds are certainly against him.


Honestly, I am rooting for Baker more than any non Bill this season. People talk about Tyrod not getting a fair shake and maybe that’s true? Both QBs helped their franchises break the longest current playoff drought at the time, but also were carried by a strong team around them. Baker showed up in the post-season though and was a better QB who IMO hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. Regardless, I think both fans should be thankful for each of them. 

What went down in Cleveland was absolutely sickening and I hope Baker tears up the NFC. I’ve always loved his passion and I thought he was the perfect QB for the Browns. 

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I hope for one that every time Mayfield goes into the Browns stadium he smokes them & i hope it's while Watson is playing that entire scenario just stunk the way they handled it then getting behind a guy like Watson & paying him that kind of cash to be a POS go figure ...

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Maybe the Browns will regret moving on from Mayfield, but the bottom line is that if I were the Browns GM, his body of work didn't justify signing him to the kind of long-term contract that he was looking for.  I think Mayfield probably has a long-run career in the NFL as a broke man's answer to Ryan Tannehill.  If that's his ceiling, it's hard to fault the Browns for moving on even if it's very easy to fault them for moving on to Deshaun Watson specifically.

 

In other words, I think the Browns are likely to regret giving up assets for Watson but unlikely to regret parting ways with Mayfield.

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23 hours ago, mushypeaches said:

Independent of the Watson decision, I actually applaud the Browns for recognizing that Baker was never going to be more than a middle tier QB and cutting bait before they just up and gave him a second contract. 

 

That's some actual strategic level thinking, and also realizing that despite his #1 draft status, that once you have the guy in the building, he's essentially a sunk cost and you don't waste time and energy throwing good money after bad

Very good point. My worry with Josh back when he was drafted was not that he'd be a bust, but just a "good" QB, like so many B level long lasting starting QBs in the league. Hard to get rid of them as they are good players, but they are not elite top tier either. The limbo. Thankfully for us Bills fans, Josh has been pure gold from the get go and always improving. With the salary cap and how QBs get paid, unless Mayfield becomes top tier, the Browns did the right thing IMO.

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