OT: Belichick says that Mac's improvement is "dramatic"

[Rocky Landing]

14 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Not disputing that, just pointing out it was a great throw/play and Hyde made an even better play to stop it.

It was a lob.

 

Later in that game, Allen made the exact same throw, to the same corner of the end zone, from literally the exact same hashmark. The difference in velocity, and trajectory is remarkable. That was a great throw.

[nucci]

9 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Has he? Can I see a link of a specific thing. This is a big thing to say, not just improving but drastically. 

I didn't say he did. I asked, what happens when....I should rephrase and  say if....However, I don't get the criticism of a coach saying a 2nd year QB has improved dramatically from his rookie year. Most QBs improve in their 2nd season

[TBBills]

16 minutes ago, nucci said:

I didn't say he did. I asked, what happens when....I should rephrase and  say if....However, I don't get the criticism of a coach saying a 2nd year QB has improved dramatically from his rookie year. Most QBs improve in their 2nd season

He isn't the type of coach to do that, he won't even talk about Tre's rehab.

 

Just funny b.c Belichick does not do things like that (unless it's the other teams players). So this is for cry baby Mac's confidence. 

Edited July 29, 2022 by TBBills

[SCBills]

Man, this division is going to be tough with Mac making a "dramatic" improvement, Uzomah stating that Wilson will make a Joe Burrow leap and Miami hyping Tua as a god amongst men. 

[Success]

I thought the throw that Hyde picked off looked beautiful - the accuracy was perfect.

 

But, it highlighted what one of his big flaws is - it didn't have nearly enough juice.  He'll never be able to sling it like the top guys.

 

I also think he'll wilt more under pressure, which he hasn't really had to face yet because the Pats do a good job w/ their line.  He isn't a good scrambler or improviser.

 

[TBBills]

The Hyde int was not a great throw by Mac Jones. The WR had to stutterstep and slow down, it allowed Hyde to make the play. Thanks to Jones noodle arm.

[sullim4]

Just remember - Peterman was the king of training camp and preseason football.

 

Come week 1, we'll see what exactly this translates to for Mac Jones.

[BigDingus]

You're asking the same group of people who downplayed Brady for nearly 20 years (and still try to excuse away his SB wins) if they're now worried about Mac Jones?😂

 

Not trying to be mean, but the majority of us Bills fans aren't going to acknowledge another AFC East QB while the Bills are atop the division. Just ain't happening.

 

For reference, us fans (I include myself in this) were often way too optimistic when we sucked... Now that we're good, fans are overly cocky instead. And even if I don't want to be that way, we have a QB that can give us a chance to beat ANYBODY any given Sunday, so it's hard not to be.

[Buffalo Super Fan]

I doubt Mac Jones is ever going to be good enough it is like saying QB Frank Reich has made improvement and is better arm strength wise than Jim

Kelly it just isn’t going to happen. Frank Reich was limited as a starting QB same deal with Mac Jones he is never going to be better than Josh Allen QB wise it is called talent ceiling. Mac Jones is at his professional QB ceiling in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[billsbackto81]

Does he play defense? Chances are we aren't punting.

11 hours ago, TBBills said:

The Hyde int was not a great throw by Mac Jones. The WR had to stutterstep and slow down, it allowed Hyde to make the play. Thanks to Jones noodle arm.

Maybe. But it was more a great play by Hyde than bad throw from Mac. Algohlor had Levi absolutely 🔥roasted 🔥 on that play. If Hyde didn't play the angle perfectly that's a TD all day and we're cursing out Wallace instead.

[TBBills]

9 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Does he play defense? Chances are we aren't punting.

Maybe. But it was more a great play by Hyde than bad throw from Mac. Algohlor had Levi absolutely 🔥roasted 🔥 on that play. If Hyde didn't play the angle perfectly that's a TD all day and we're cursing out Wallace instead.

Hyde was able to get the perfect angle b.c the ball was thrown short. Of course Hyde made a play of the year but everything went into it.

[PromoTheRobot]

👀

 

 

 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Mac struggling in Training camp.

 

Mac Jones says he’s feeling ‘shot in the heart’ amid Patriots offensive struggles

 

The New England Patriots starting defense has taken complete control of 11-on-11 drills since the team put on pads on Monday. The Patriots have only had two practices in pads, but Mac Jones and the offense have clearly come up short against the defense, which has locked down receivers and blown up the offensive line at the line of scrimmage.

 

“We have a lot of room to grow here,” Jones said Tuesday after practice.

Jones was visibly frustrated following practice on Monday when the offense simply could not get anything going in an abbreviated practice session where backup quarterback Bailey Zappe got more opportunities. And though Jones was in higher spirits on Tuesday, his offensive unit didn’t look much better.

 

So what’s happening exactly?

Well, the Patriots aren’t likely to say exactly what is leading to these growing pains. But we know the team is changing its offense and while Bill Belichick said he was streamlining it, the adjustments are clearly much more substantial. Jones confirmed Tuesday they’re using new formations — and smart football minds (like the Boston Herald’s Andrew Callahan) can see those formations are similar to the Los Angeles Rams offense under Sean McVay. New England is also running the outside zone run scheme — in the same vein as the San Francisco 49ers under Kyle Shanahan.

Because the Patriots are running a new offense, they are installing it for the first time in pads this week. That means the offense is running scripted plays to see how they look. They’re not at the point where they’re running audibles.

“Right now, we’re just trying to run our base plays,” Jones said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mac-jones-says-feeling-shot-183759614.html

Edited August 3, 2022 by JakeFrommStateFarm

[TheBrownBear]

14 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Mac struggling in Training camp.

 

Mac Jones says he’s feeling ‘shot in the heart’ amid Patriots offensive struggles

 

The New England Patriots starting defense has taken complete control of 11-on-11 drills since the team put on pads on Monday. The Patriots have only had two practices in pads, but Mac Jones and the offense have clearly come up short against the defense, which has locked down receivers and blown up the offensive line at the line of scrimmage.

 

“We have a lot of room to grow here,” Jones said Tuesday after practice.

Jones was visibly frustrated following practice on Monday when the offense simply could not get anything going in an abbreviated practice session where backup quarterback Bailey Zappe got more opportunities. And though Jones was in higher spirits on Tuesday, his offensive unit didn’t look much better.

 

So what’s happening exactly?

Well, the Patriots aren’t likely to say exactly what is leading to these growing pains. But we know the team is changing its offense and while Bill Belichick said he was streamlining it, the adjustments are clearly much more substantial. Jones confirmed Tuesday they’re using new formations — and smart football minds (like the Boston Herald’s Andrew Callahan) can see those formations are similar to the Los Angeles Rams offense under Sean McVay. New England is also running the outside zone run scheme — in the same vein as the San Francisco 49ers under Kyle Shanahan.

Because the Patriots are running a new offense, they are installing it for the first time in pads this week. That means the offense is running scripted plays to see how they look. They’re not at the point where they’re running audibles.

“Right now, we’re just trying to run our base plays,” Jones said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mac-jones-says-feeling-shot-183759614.html

Ruh roh!  Given the improvement in Miami and the New Jersey (and elsewhere in the AFC), Pats are looking like a 5-6 win team, IMO.  

[Warcodered]

18 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Mac struggling in Training camp.

 

Mac Jones says he’s feeling ‘shot in the heart’ amid Patriots offensive struggles

 

The New England Patriots starting defense has taken complete control of 11-on-11 drills since the team put on pads on Monday. The Patriots have only had two practices in pads, but Mac Jones and the offense have clearly come up short against the defense, which has locked down receivers and blown up the offensive line at the line of scrimmage.

 

“We have a lot of room to grow here,” Jones said Tuesday after practice.

Jones was visibly frustrated following practice on Monday when the offense simply could not get anything going in an abbreviated practice session where backup quarterback Bailey Zappe got more opportunities. And though Jones was in higher spirits on Tuesday, his offensive unit didn’t look much better.

 

So what’s happening exactly?

Well, the Patriots aren’t likely to say exactly what is leading to these growing pains. But we know the team is changing its offense and while Bill Belichick said he was streamlining it, the adjustments are clearly much more substantial. Jones confirmed Tuesday they’re using new formations — and smart football minds (like the Boston Herald’s Andrew Callahan) can see those formations are similar to the Los Angeles Rams offense under Sean McVay. New England is also running the outside zone run scheme — in the same vein as the San Francisco 49ers under Kyle Shanahan.

Because the Patriots are running a new offense, they are installing it for the first time in pads this week. That means the offense is running scripted plays to see how they look. They’re not at the point where they’re running audibles.

“Right now, we’re just trying to run our base plays,” Jones said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mac-jones-says-feeling-shot-183759614.html

This honestly sounds like the before to an absolutely garbage season.

[Doc]

Matt Patricia as OC. 

[TBBills]

Mac "dramatic" Jones!

[Ghost_002!]

On 7/29/2022 at 5:54 PM, BigDingus said:

You're asking the same group of people who downplayed Brady for nearly 20 years (and still try to excuse away his SB wins) if they're now worried about Mac Jones?😂

 

Not trying to be mean, but the majority of us Bills fans aren't going to acknowledge another AFC East QB while the Bills are atop the division. Just ain't happening.

 

For reference, us fans (I include myself in this) were often way too optimistic when we sucked... Now that we're good, fans are overly cocky instead. And even if I don't want to be that way, we have a QB that can give us a chance to beat ANYBODY any given Sunday, so it's hard not to be.

 

 

When NE did it..we were "ignorant scumbags" according to other fans. 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Ghost_002!

[stevewin]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Mac struggling in Training camp.

 

Mac Jones says he’s feeling ‘shot in the heart’ amid Patriots offensive struggles

 

The New England Patriots starting defense has taken complete control of 11-on-11 drills since the team put on pads on Monday. The Patriots have only had two practices in pads, but Mac Jones and the offense have clearly come up short against the defense, which has locked down receivers and blown up the offensive line at the line of scrimmage.

 

“We have a lot of room to grow here,” Jones said Tuesday after practice.

Jones was visibly frustrated following practice on Monday when the offense simply could not get anything going in an abbreviated practice session where backup quarterback Bailey Zappe got more opportunities. And though Jones was in higher spirits on Tuesday, his offensive unit didn’t look much better.

 

So what’s happening exactly?

Well, the Patriots aren’t likely to say exactly what is leading to these growing pains. But we know the team is changing its offense and while Bill Belichick said he was streamlining it, the adjustments are clearly much more substantial. Jones confirmed Tuesday they’re using new formations — and smart football minds (like the Boston Herald’s Andrew Callahan) can see those formations are similar to the Los Angeles Rams offense under Sean McVay. New England is also running the outside zone run scheme — in the same vein as the San Francisco 49ers under Kyle Shanahan.

Because the Patriots are running a new offense, they are installing it for the first time in pads this week. That means the offense is running scripted plays to see how they look. They’re not at the point where they’re running audibles.

“Right now, we’re just trying to run our base plays,” Jones said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mac-jones-says-feeling-shot-183759614.html

Welcome to QB purgatory, Cheaters.  Burn in hell

[Mattymafia]

He’s trash 

[ColoradoBills]

3 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

When NE did it..we were "ignorant scumbags" according to other fans. 

 

See the deal is you have literally no idea of what Bills fans have suffered through with the drought and NE Dynasty.

You'll get sympathy from some Bills fans when you lose twice to the Bills every year and finally make the playoffs again in 2039.

2039.

 

Don't overreact and reply too quickly.  Read carefully what I posted and let it sink in.

[Punching Bag]

On 8/3/2022 at 4:06 PM, Doc said:

Matt Patricia as OC. 

 

You have it wrong.  Billi-cheat is GM/HC/DC/OC and if he chooses to tank he can do so without outside discussion being leaked.

Edited August 6, 2022 by Limeaid
multiple posts

[Success]

5 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Mac struggling in Training camp.

 

Mac Jones says he’s feeling ‘shot in the heart’ amid Patriots offensive struggles

 

The New England Patriots starting defense has taken complete control of 11-on-11 drills since the team put on pads on Monday. The Patriots have only had two practices in pads, but Mac Jones and the offense have clearly come up short against the defense, which has locked down receivers and blown up the offensive line at the line of scrimmage.

 

“We have a lot of room to grow here,” Jones said Tuesday after practice.

Jones was visibly frustrated following practice on Monday when the offense simply could not get anything going in an abbreviated practice session where backup quarterback Bailey Zappe got more opportunities. And though Jones was in higher spirits on Tuesday, his offensive unit didn’t look much better.

 

So what’s happening exactly?

Well, the Patriots aren’t likely to say exactly what is leading to these growing pains. But we know the team is changing its offense and while Bill Belichick said he was streamlining it, the adjustments are clearly much more substantial. Jones confirmed Tuesday they’re using new formations — and smart football minds (like the Boston Herald’s Andrew Callahan) can see those formations are similar to the Los Angeles Rams offense under Sean McVay. New England is also running the outside zone run scheme — in the same vein as the San Francisco 49ers under Kyle Shanahan.

Because the Patriots are running a new offense, they are installing it for the first time in pads this week. That means the offense is running scripted plays to see how they look. They’re not at the point where they’re running audibles.

“Right now, we’re just trying to run our base plays,” Jones said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mac-jones-says-feeling-shot-183759614.html

 

Well, I certainly enjoyed reading that.

 

Of course, Pats fans will read that as, "Our D is like the '85 Bears!"

 

[Roundybout]

MacCorkle not looking so hot per reports. 

[K-9]

On 8/3/2022 at 9:07 PM, Limeaid said:

 

You have it wrong.  Billi-cheat is GM/HC/DC/OC and if he chooses to tank he can do so without outside discussion being leaked.

 

You have it wrong.  Billi-cheat is GM/HC/DC/OC and if he chooses to tank he can do so without outside discussion being leaked.

 

You have it wrong.  Billi-cheat is GM/HC/DC/OC and if he chooses to tank he can do so without outside discussion being leaked.

[BillnutinHouston]

On 8/6/2022 at 9:42 AM, Roundybout said:

 

 

 

Re: Sal's tweet:

 

He talks to NE reporters, reports on what they say, then reminds us later that he reported those conversations.  Got it.

[HOUSE]

Bill said he was Draino magic,  miss quoted....

Edited August 7, 2022 by HOUSE

[Cheektowaga Chad]

The pats will miss Josh mcdaniels this season

 

Guy seemed to understand how to bring young qbs along 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Cheektowaga Chad

[Captain Hindsight]

On 8/3/2022 at 4:06 PM, Doc said:

Matt Patricia as OC. 

What’s so crazy about that, is it’s Belicheck who can’t get anyone to work with him? Except those two clowns? He’s been in the league for 50 years!

[RobbRiddick]

I really hope the Pats are a disaster this year. Bottom of the East, one of the worst teams in football. Good enough to play in the NFC sort of bad

[Captain Hindsight]

17 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

The pats will miss Josh mcdaniels this season

 

Guy seemed to understand how to bring young qbs along 

Especially when they replace him with a bad defensive coordinator and a bad ST coordinator 

[Locomark]

When Belicheck has to prop up a QB after talking down to Brady every year I suggest this is him hoping encouragement will breed improvement. It’s not Belicheck’s normal style so it seems less genuine to me. 

[OZBILLS]

What is this obsession with Mac Jones?

 

[Don Otreply]

On 7/29/2022 at 9:40 AM, nucci said:

what happens when McDermott says a young player has improved dramatically? 

Well, being that McDermott isn’t a known cheating lying sack of sh t like Bill Belicheck is known to be,  I for one would be likely to have some belief in what McDermott said, but maybe that’s just me…, nuthin but luv Nucci, 😁👍

 

Go  Bills!!!

[Buffalo716]

49 minutes ago, Locomark said:

When Belicheck has to prop up a QB after talking down to Brady every year I suggest this is him hoping encouragement will breed improvement. It’s not Belicheck’s normal style so it seems less genuine to me. 

Or other players take to different coaching styles 

 

Brady is the classic overachiever who obviously takes criticism and it lights a fire under him to work ass off

 

Mac might be a typical millennial who needs high praise to get his confidence up

[Ghost_002!]

On 8/3/2022 at 8:29 PM, ColoradoBills said:

 

See the deal is you have literally no idea of what Bills fans have suffered through with the drought and NE Dynasty.

You'll get sympathy from some Bills fans when you lose twice to the Bills every year and finally make the playoffs again in 2039.

2039.

 

Don't overreact and reply too quickly.  Read carefully what I posted and let it sink in.

 

 

See your first mistake is you thinking I am looking for sympathy..

 

 

Ha ha

 

Sympathy for what??

9 hours ago, OZBILLS said:

What is this obsession with Mac Jones?

 

 

 

Patriots success hunts alot of Bills fans. And every year they can't win a ring the Patriots will stay in some bills fans souls 

[thenorthremembers]

13 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

The pats will miss Josh mcdaniels this season

 

Guy seemed to understand how to bring young qbs along 

I'm not being sarcastic but I feel like I am missing something.  What young QB did he bring a long? 

 

I feel like the entire New England coaching staff, including Bill, were very lucky to have Brady for most of their careers.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I'm not being sarcastic but I feel like I am missing something.  What young QB did he bring a long? 

 

I feel like the entire New England coaching staff, including Bill, were very lucky to have Brady for most of their careers.

Brady, cassel, jacoby brisset ,Jimmy G and mac jones

 

Mcdaniels was with Brady early and played a role in getting Brady to be Brady. As much as it pains me to say it but Brady isn't Brady without the slow build type development

 

Mcdaniels got Matt cassel PAID. And he stinks

 

Jacoby brisset is still around and still a solid back up

 

Jimmy G is solid not spectacular but solid, had his team in the nfc championship last season

 

Mac jones - I think he is over rated and not very good but he had him playing beyond his years as a rookie 

 

Probably missed some but mcdaniels can coach and develop qbs

 

[Doc]

6 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

See your first mistake is you thinking I am looking for sympathy..

 

 

Ha ha

 

Sympathy for what??

 

 

Patriots success hunts alot of Bills fans. And every year they can't win a ring the Patriots will stay in some bills fans souls 

 

The devil.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Lol. I’m hearing from numerous sources that the practices are not going well. 
 

and the 👉 Mac.