I feel McDermott confirmed that Edmunds is a lock for an extension in interview today with NFLN

[JerseyBills]

This interview from the NFLN and NFL app asks Sean this question -

"You talk about a standard that you set here. How does Sean McDermott extend the bar of that standard?"

 

To summarize , McD said that his leadership , as well as player leadership, "particularly Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds."

 

https://www.nfl.com/videos/sean-mcdermott-on-how-bills-can-accomplish-22-goals-training-camp-practice

 

Question is asked around the 1 minute mark.

Long story short, I guarantee Edmunds is a Bill for years to come. The staff and player's clearly love him and for McD to say his name above any other defender speaks volumes. 

He has been the QB for a top defense for multiple years. That's a fact 

 

Personally I agree 

 

Edit - On deeper thought, thanks to my friend Mary Jane, what if they're not 100% sold on him and this is McDermotts way of sending a message. 

He's clearly not a "rah-rah" type of leader and not very talkative in public M. Maybe they're not sold on his leadership, especially after 13 seconds??

 

Micah Hyde calling Edmunds a future H.O.Fer - "Number one, he elevates throws for the safeties and for the inside guys so much, because he’s six … nine, it seems like,” Hyde said of the 6-5 Edmunds. “He’s able to get his hands up and whether he’s deflecting tips and overthrows or even making the ball elevate, it helps the safeties out. But then he’s sideline-to-sideline. Run plays, he’s quick as can be. We put him on a tight end, he’s able to hold his own. And he’s only going to get better.

https://blog.siriusxm.com/buffalo-bills-micah-hyde-tremaine-edmunds-nfl-football/

 

I always suspected his length and raw physical ability had a way bigger impact on the D than we notice watching film

 

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by JerseyBills

[Chaos]

You make a good observation, and are probably correct. Coaches favorites are not always players favorites though. I have read lots of love from players for Josh.  Not sure I have ever really seen players speak about Edmunds in a similar manner. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Well this is sure to give many Bills fans nightmares now!  Couldn't you wait till morning to post this?

 

Personally I'm fine with it too.

[Ga boy]

Good catch.  Maybe he gets it before Sept 1.  This D will dominate this year and Edmunds will lead with his play.  I bet he will get more sacks, stuffs and picks.  

[Bob in STL]

He told Von that his family calls him “Maine”.   Great name for an MLB, and great question by Von. 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Bob in STL

[SCBills]

If they’re going to extend him, I’d rather they do it before the season.  
 

If Edmunds was ever going to ball out, it would be behind this DL.  Better to get ahead of the curve if he’s truly who they believe he is. 

[DJB]

So long as Tremaine is paid like his play dictates and not a top 10 MLB is paid at the position I think Bills fans would be fine with that. 

 

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by DJB

[TBBills]

19 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Well this is sure to give many Bills fans nightmares now!  Couldn't you wait till morning to post this?

 

Personally I'm fine with it too.

Doubt it since he is making a grand assumption off a PR interview.

[Thurman#1]

30 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

This interview from the NFLN and NFL app asks Sean this question -

"You talk about a standard that you set here. How does Sean McDermott extend the bar of that standard?"

 

To summarize , McD said that his leadership , as well as player leadership, "particularly Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds."

 

https://www.nfl.com/videos/sean-mcdermott-on-how-bills-can-accomplish-22-goals-training-camp-practice

 

Question is asked around the 1 minute mark.

Long story short, I guarantee Edmunds is a Bill for years to come. The staff and player's clearly love him and for McD to say his name above any other defender speaks volumes. 

 

Personally I agree 

 

 

Yeah, no. You can't even begin to guarantee that anymore than you can guarantee snow on Christmas Day this year.

 

He didn't even come close to confirming that he's a lock. He did very clearly confirm that he thinks highly of Allen and Edmunds. But that's not the only factor. There's the cap. There's who else they sign. There's his performance this year.

 

If Edmunds is asking to top the market he's unlikely to be here. If he's willing to take a good but not outstanding offer, he likely will, IMO. Not a sure thing, though. I see Roquan Smith isn't coming to camp. If Edmunds had pulled that, he'd be gone if we go by their regular M.O.

[Mikie2times]

I don't think this video is much, it was a very casual reference, but as one thread pointed out on the Pat McAfee show, the cap isn't real so long as your owner is rich and Terry isn't hurting. I do not recall a player that created such division from the scouts, coaches, media, and fans. All of the former think Edmunds is one of the best MLB's in the game. Throw out the splash play argument and I will say it is hard for us fans to measure what it's like to have a wacky wavy inflatable tube man running in the low 4.5's whose "thick" (maybe not Zach Wilson thick) but this is no small man. Point being, I don't know if a player existed since Brian Urlacher that eliminated such a large throwing space in the middle of the field. If that is all Edmunds does and has zero splash, it still might be enough in a passing league to be considered an elite leader by those who matter (not us).   

[Richard Noggin]

4 minutes ago, DJB said:

So long as Tremaine is paid like his play dictates and not a top 10 MLB is paid at the position I think Bills fans would be fine with that. 

 

 

Herein lies the rub.

 

With highly-drafted QBs on rookie deals, they either get a top tier AAV extension, or they hit the market (or hit the road via trade). There is no middle class with the team who drafts them. Big money or no money. 

 

Does it work the same for a 1st round MLB? Or is there room for a reasonable, mutually beneficial extension? I was pleasantly surprised by Milano's deal, and he has inarguably outperformed Edmunds to date.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

43 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

To summarize , McD said that his leadership , as well as player leadership, "particularly Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds."

you heard that too?

 

I chuckled 🤭 

Knew it would go over soo well here 

[GETTOTHE50]

mcd is just trollin the board at this point. he saw that there wasnt a tremaine thread right before the interview so he said this.

 

im onto you mcd

[Virgil]

Trade him for Roquan Smith 

[Brand J]

Edmunds is the defensive captain, the player with the green dot on his helmet. McD’s comments don’t equate to “I guarantee we’re signing him to an extension” they’re just that - comments on Tremaine’s position as a leader. Don’t create contractual absolutes where there are none.

[BruceVilanch]

I'm in hospital admin, I've praised other members of my exec team in front of other departments and have fired them the same month. I would never throw one of my guys under the bus publicly. That being said, I think Edmunds will get extended.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Edmunds is probably exactly how McDermott draws up his perfect player. We can debate about the lack of big plays forever, but he’s such a professional in everything he does.

 

 

 

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Not listed in top players under 25. 

Leadership is not unimportant. But leadership without impact plays is not worthy of a top 5 contract which is what he will want. 

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Edmunds is probably exactly how McDermott draws up his perfect player. We can debate about the lack of big plays forever, but he’s such a professional in everything he does.

 

 

 

 

He's supposed to be a professional tackler. He doesn't do that well no matter how people want to spin his role on the team. 

The media has already moved on to other playmaking linebackers that are true impact players. 

All that said, he has 17 games to prove he can be an elite player and earn a top dollar contract. I'd pay Knox and Oliver and let Edmunds walk.  Hope he plays well enough to change my mind, because the defense is going to face far better offenses this season as compared to 2021.

[HardyBoy]

7 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said:

I'm in hospital admin, I've praised other members of my exec team in front of other departments and have fired them the same month. I would never throw one of my guys under the bus publicly. That being said, I think Edmunds will get extended.

 

Um, I'm not sure that has the effect you think/hope it does...those other departments remember, other people in your team, across all levels remember.

 

Praising someone publicly in such a foundational way as how McD praised Edmund's core personality and the value/leadership they bring, and then firing them for their general performance (not talking fraud or anything) a month later...oof that would give me pause in the future and my antenata would go up anytime I heard praise from that person in the future as a potential red flag.

 

Kind of like free agents and current players remember. I'm not saying McD is talking about an extension at all, and you can think a player or person is a perfect fit for an organization, but the budget doesn't work, but you can't be disingenuous and succeed in the nfl as a coach or leader.

 

Saying someone is a great leader and then firing someone a month later for not being a great leader, and not extending a contract of a great leader when that person's value has gone up significantly because of that skill are not the same thing, you can't compare those. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

14 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Not listed in top players under 25. 

Leadership is not unimportant. But leadership without impact plays is not worthy of a top 5 contract which is what he will want. 

He's supposed to be a professional tackler. He doesn't do that well no matter how people want to spin his role on the team. 

The media has already moved on to other playmaking linebackers that are true impact players. 

All that said, he has 17 games to prove he can be an elite player and earn a top dollar contract. I'd pay Knox and Oliver and let Edmunds walk.  Hope he plays well enough to change my mind, because the defense is going to face far better offenses this season as compared to 2021.

His tackle depth was better than Milano. I’m not sure what you mean he doesn’t tackle well? It’s better than most LBs. And he makes a lot of tackles so that should tell you something.

 

Edmunds grades poorly on analytic sites. I’ve never felt Edmunds was a consistent problem on defense. There are plays I watch back and think Edmunds could’ve been better but it’s not a that pops up often.

 

His coverage for me is hard to grade because he mostly covers space and not a man. Milano is typically used in that role. 
 

Edmunds lacks game changing plays. He’s mostly a space eater in this defense. That’s something that is hard to grade for me. I know analytic sites grade him poorly. 

 

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

You make a good observation, and are probably correct. Coaches favorites are not always players favorites though. I have read lots of love from players for Josh.  Not sure I have ever really seen players speak about Edmunds in a similar manner. 

When White gave his interview upon signing his extension, he specifically named being able to play with Edmunds as a big reason he wanted to stay long term.

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, DJB said:

So long as Tremaine is paid like his play dictates and not a top 10 MLB is paid at the position I think Bills fans would be fine with that. 

 

 

You mean the leader of this top ranked defense? I don't think McBeane care what armchair QBs think and good for them. Hope he gets paid.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

When White gave his interview upon signing his extension, he specifically named being able to play with Edmunds as a big reason he wanted to stay long term.

Never complains. He’s not a rah rah guy. Goes about his business. Always in shape. Biggest ILB in football. Athletic freak. Voted team captain of a Super Bowl contender. Hardly misses games. Plays hurt. Plays every snap. Never comes off the field of a number 1 defense. Calls the plays. 
 

There are people on here that think AJ Klein replaced Edmunds and made plays but the reality is he replaced Milano and made plays. We hated Klein vs Indy when he replaced Edmunds. The other game I believe was the Jets he replaced Edmunds and the defense dominated as predicted.

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, Chaos said:

You make a good observation, and are probably correct. Coaches favorites are not always players favorites though. I have read lots of love from players for Josh.  Not sure I have ever really seen players speak about Edmunds in a similar manner. 

In year 1 or 2 , the broadcast said his teammates think the world of him and Hyde called him a future Hall of Famer. I'll try to find a link

 

Found an article about it - https://blog.siriusxm.com/buffalo-bills-micah-hyde-tremaine-edmunds-nfl-football/

Edited July 26, 2022 by JerseyBills

[Dopey]

50 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said:

I'm in hospital admin, I've praised other members of my exec team in front of other departments and have fired them the same month. I would never throw one of my guys under the bus publicly. That being said, I think Edmunds will get extended.

You're proud of being two faced?!? Like other department heads won't remember the "praise" you gave to someone you fired later that month? Does it suck working with you? Before you answer, check with your team to see. Don't want to assume.

[BillsFanForever19]

You all hate on Edmunds. But the fact is, MLB play league wide hasn't been great. It's why you all think he's just the worst while he made multiple Pro Bowls. Unless you have a Lavonte David, you'd be hard pressed to have anyone in the Middle that doesn't make you rip your hair out from time to time.

 

Today's offenses and QB's are constantly putting MLB's in unenviable positions. And we have a Defense that more often than not utilizes 2 LB's instead of most teams 3 and some teams 4. The margin for error is massive. And I think the haters are reading too much into the fact that his extension hasn't come yet as them being on the fence. I'd bet it's just as simple as they have his extension in mind for next year's books and were focusing elsewhere this season.

 

In fact, it wouldn't shock me one bit if while many of you are writing him off, they plan on Franchise Tagging him if they can't get a deal done before Free Agency next year.

Edited July 26, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[Coach Tuesday]

Edmunds thread trigger alert!

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Sign Edmunds to a 5 year extension locking him up for the next 6 years. The money will look huge but structure it to keep cap hits reasonably low this year and next. Give yourself an out after year 3. 
 

Use the extra cap this year to extend Poyer 2 years. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

His tackle depth was better than Milano. I’m not sure what you mean he doesn’t tackle well? It’s better than most LBs. And he makes a lot of tackles so that should tell you something.

 

Edmunds grades poorly on analytic sites. I’ve never felt Edmunds was a consistent problem on defense. There are plays I watch back and think Edmunds could’ve been better but it’s not a that pops up often.

 

His coverage for me is hard to grade because he mostly covers space and not a man. Milano is typically used in that role. 
 

Edmunds lacks game changing plays. He’s mostly a space eater in this defense. That’s something that is hard to grade for me. I know analytic sites grade him poorly. 

 

 

I agree. We don't know what he truly is asked to do unless we see him in man to man coverage.  And when the QB throws tothe outside is that because Edmunds has the middle covered or for a different reason. There are multiple plays that it still appears he is blocked far down field and takes poor angles. 

The guy is a 4 year starter at MLB. If I've ever said he was terrible that was hyperbole. He is a competent MLB. Has he lived up to his draft status and has he earned a top 5 extension? I dont think so but I hope he earns it on the field this year. He's only 24 and a 5 year extension means they have MLB solved for most of the rest of the decade. I think they could find a cheaper rookie to do what he does and spend the dollars on Knox and Oliver. But if the cap goes up they can probably find room enough for all these guys. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I agree. We don't know what he truly is asked to do unless we see him in man to man coverage.  And when the QB throws tothe outside is that because Edmunds has the middle covered or for a different reason. There are multiple plays that it still appears he is blocked far down field and takes poor angles. 

The guy is a 4 year starter at MLB. If I've ever said he was terrible that was hyperbole. He is a competent MLB. Has he lived up to his draft status and has he earned a top 5 extension? I dont think so but I hope he earns it on the field this year. He's only 24 and a 5 year extension means they have MLB solved for most of the rest of the decade. I think they could find a cheaper rookie to do what he does and spend the dollars on Knox and Oliver. But if the cap goes up they can probably find room enough for all these guys. 

Here’s my argument. On almost every play we think Edmunds took a bad angle resulting in a long run the all pro safeties we have also took bad angles.

 

Lets also add this defense doesn’t give up much so those plays stick out. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Every time a new Edmunds thread gets started, a baby seal dies.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Every time a new Edmunds thread gets started, a baby seal dies.

Seal the singer or the animal. Makes a big difference.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Here’s my argument. On almost every play we think Edmunds took a bad angle resulting in a long run the all pro safeties we have also took bad angles.

 

Lets also add this defense doesn’t give up much so those plays stick out. 

Let's just do what we did last year and watch the games and make assessments as best we can.  I enjoyed the near real time game assessments.  

[machine gun kelly]

2 hours ago, Dopey said:

You're proud of being two faced?!? Like other department heads won't remember the "praise" you gave to someone you fired later that month? Does it suck working with you? Before you answer, check with your team to see. Don't want to assume.

Says the man who names himself Dooey.  The only thing Bruce is saying is as a leader you don’t belittle a coworker publicly.  You deal with it privately and have direct conversations.  I’ve been in management for a long time, and do not publicly criticize one of the persons I inherited or hired.  I’ll document their performance, coach, teach and performance manage, but that stays between myself and the employee barring having to discuss with his two over manager as they will provide feedback for the manager to see all sides.

 

This interview is much about nothing.  McD is not going to air to the world his thoughts on Edmunds.  If he has issues with Edmunds, he’ll consult with Beane, Frazier, and make a decision whether to extend or not.

 

Thats life in management.  I wouldn’t want McD to criticize Edmunds on national tv.  You’ll know what he thinks by what he does.  The same as the ST coach was fired after 13 seconds, and Wallace was not retained even though Pittsburgh did not exactly give him a high salary.  McD’s actions basically let all of us know there were mistakes made, and probably not the only ones so he moved onto a new coach, and different CB#2.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

22 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Let's just do what we did last year and watch the games and make assessments as best we can.  I enjoyed the near real time game assessments.  

We have 4 years of games.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Mickey]

He has not turned out to be as good as we had hoped when he was drafted but he has been a leading tackler on a top defense, almost never misses a game, has been the QB of a very good defense and pretty much never leaves the field.  You can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes, you'll find, you get what you neeeeeeeeeeeeed. Maine ain't going anywhere.

[SoMAn]

8 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

 

Micah Hyde calling Edmunds a future H.O.Fer - "Number one, he elevates throws for the safeties and for the inside guys so much, because he’s six … nine, it seems like,” Hyde said of the 6-5 Edmunds. “He’s able to get his hands up and whether he’s deflecting tips and overthrows or even making the ball elevate, it helps the safeties out. But then he’s sideline-to-sideline. Run plays, he’s quick as can be. We put him on a tight end, he’s able to hold his own. And he’s only going to get better.

 

 

 

So he pretty much plays the same role in the middle of the field as the Dutch Windmill obstacle at a putt-putt golf course.  And he can run sideline to sideline too (and be second man in a on the tackle well past the first down marker). 

I'm old school, so I guess I just need to adjust my paradigm of what a middle linebacker is in the Frazier defense and accept that Edmunds is a valuable piece of that squad. I'm trying.

[eball]

6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Every time a new Edmunds thread gets started, a baby seal dies.

 

Are they on the endangered species list yet?

 

[babulator]

There are mediocre to bad teams that will be willing to throw the bank @ Edmunds next year. No chance he remains a Bill for that reason alone. (Unless he accepts a Bills contract that is grossly under his market value).

[cage]

9 hours ago, Chaos said:

You make a good observation, and are probably correct. Coaches favorites are not always players favorites though. I have read lots of love from players for Josh.  Not sure I have ever really seen players speak about Edmunds in a similar manner. 

 

Allen is the QB.  He's going to get 100x the discussion anyone else is.  That who the whole team sees as its leader / face of franchise.  I don't think we see players speak about anyone in a similar manner; Hyde, Poyer, Milano, Diggs, Morse, Dawkins??