YoloinOhio Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Good luck with… all of that obligatory …. “Burn, Chefs, burn” 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 As a Bills fan, I say that sounds low and they should probably pay him $30 Mil/year to be sure he’s REALLY happy. They had to know he’d want a new deal when trading for him. I wonder if they had any idea just what he’d want that deal to look like. 5 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 They were probably hoping he’d take a discount to play with Kermit. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Augie said: As a Bills fan, I say that sounds low and they should probably pay him $30 Mil/year to be sure he’s REALLY happy. They had to know he’d want a new deal when trading for him. I wonder if they had any idea just what he’d want that deal to look like. So they were somewhat criticized at the time for trading for him without a new deal in place. It’s the reason he was traded in the first place. Ravens didn’t want to pay him. Chiefs were desperate at LT when Eric fisher got hurt/old . But now looks like could have been a (costly) band aid. When you do that, the player has all the leverage. Edited July 14, 2022 by YoloinOhio 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Augie said: As a Bills fan, I say that sounds low and they should probably pay him $30 Mil/year to be sure he’s REALLY happy. They had to know he’d want a new deal when trading for him. I wonder if they had any idea just what he’d want that deal to look like. I mean, KC had to know what the top of the market looks like with the Williams and Bakhtiari deals don’t they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 That’s what the Green Bay left tackle got so he’s not far off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: That’s what the Green Bay left tackle got so he’s not far off He is apparently far off from what the chiefs want to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, Doc said: They were probably hoping he’d take a discount to play with Kermit. He came to get his ring so he wants more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Pffftt... HOUSE says hold my beer, let me get my wallet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, PonyBoy said: Pffftt... HOUSE says hold my beer, let me get my wallet. pretty sure @HOUSE left it in the car. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 That’s the problem when you get a RT to play LT. That said, I bet the chiefs pay him pretty close to this— you don’t make that trade and then not re-sign him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, PonyBoy said: Pffftt... HOUSE says hold my beer, let me get my wallet. If only @HOUSE could remember where he parked the damn car! HINT: your phone will help you with that. I’m not too ashamed to say I’ve used that map feature. It has saved me from having to wait until there was only one car left in the parking lot. KC gave up too much to just walk away, painting themselves into a corner. What kind of meltdown would we have here if Beane made a move like that? He’d have to go into WitSec! . Edited July 15, 2022 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Good for him, get every penny you can from the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 did KC draft a replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He came to get his ring so he wants more. Except he didn’t get a ring with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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machine gun kelly Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Augie said: As a Bills fan, I say that sounds low and they should probably pay him $30 Mil/year to be sure he’s REALLY happy. They had to know he’d want a new deal when trading for him. I wonder if they had any idea just what he’d want that deal to look like. Do I hear 35, 40? We’ll played Augster. By all means, please keep driving insane salaries so they have to purge or go bankrupt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 How much better were they with him last year? Dude is looking at his 3rd team in 3 years… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I like the Twitter replies. Comparing losing Hill to losing your LT is apparently not gonna change anything. Will they did grab wrs but didn't get a LT. Should be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How much better were they with him last year? Dude is looking at his 3rd team in 3 years… I think the real question is how much worse would they have been without him? Maybe one play at a critical time? Maybe in a certain playoff game??? I don’t blame the guy for wanting to get paid. I’m just glad this is the Chief’s problem. This one appears to have been misplayed by KC who gave up all their leverage without locking the player down. This does not feel very “Beane-esque”. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Didn't Bill O Brien do this same thing when trading for Tunsil. Not the guy I'd be emulating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Inflation The highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL is the San Francisco 49ers' Trent Williams. He makes $23.01 million per season. The Green Bay Packers' David Bakhtiari is second. He makes $23 million in average annual salary. Feb 14, 2022 On average, NFL waterboys make $53,000 per year (according to Stack.com). However, that's just the salary for beginners. For professionals, their salary can be higher as any other highest paid NFL waterboy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, TBBills said: Good for him, get every penny you can from the Chiefs. Good for him, ***** the Chiefs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Not worth that much by any stretch, but if he can get it from them dumbasses then go for it I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just for comparison, Dawkins is signed thru 2024 at about $13m per year. A bargain it seems 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: Do I hear 35, 40? We’ll played Augster. By all means, please keep driving insane salaries so they have to purge or go bankrupt. HA! By all means, let them take the “what ya’ got left? I’ll have THAT!” approach!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffKCChiefs Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Good. Hopefully it lingers into the season and it effects Ronald McDonald's blind side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, DallasMac said: Didn't Bill O Brien do this same thing when trading for Tunsil. Not the guy I'd be emulating. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Good luck with… all of that obligatory …. “Burn, Chefs, burn” The big man is truly delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So they were somewhat criticized at the time for trading for him without a new deal in place. It’s the reason he was traded in the first place. Ravens didn’t want to pay him. Chiefs were desperate at LT when Eric fisher got hurt/old . But now looks like could have been a (costly) band aid. When you do that, the player has all the leverage. Yup. This is exactly why you only make a trade like that if you have an extension agreed upon. It was an undisciplined move by KC and it’s gonna cost them. Spotrac has him at 5/$112 or $22.4M AAV. So starting negotiations at $25M+ makes sense, especially with his leverage. Ofc KC could franchise tag him for that kind of money. Edited July 15, 2022 by BarleyNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: Yup. This is exactly why you only make a trade like that if you have an extension agreed upon. It was an undisciplined move by KC and it’s gonna cost them. Spotrac has him at 5/$112 or $22.4M AAV. So starting negotiations at $25M+ makes sense, especially with his leverage. Ofc KC could franchise tag him for that kind of money. Maybe I'm misreading what you wrote, but KC did franchise tag him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) If $25M is what he actually expects, and less would cause major disappointment, yeah, good luck with that. Might easily just be a warning shot off the bows or a first negotiating position, though. He and the Chiefs both say they want him in KC. 40 minutes ago, Doc said: Maybe I'm misreading what you wrote, but KC did franchise tag him. I might be misunderstanding his meaning, but I thought me might mean that they could franchise him for a second time in a row, and I believe it would still cost less than the $22M that Spotrac is projecting for a second contract's AAV. Edited July 15, 2022 by Thurman#1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Not surprising. I followed him down here in Baltimore and he’s all about himself. He will also try to renegotiate anytime someone surpasses his contract. No thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 I know people are giving him a hard time. On the other hand, the guy has seen the affects of the game 1st hand. His dad was a great player, had that freak eye injury from the refs flag. And then his father passed at 40. As offensive linemen with limited playing careers and often times life spans bc of the rigors they put their bodies through… I understand the player wanting as much money as possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Augie said: I think the real question is how much worse would they have been without him? Maybe one play at a critical time? Maybe in a certain playoff game??? I don’t blame the guy for wanting to get paid. I’m just glad this is the Chief’s problem. This one appears to have been misplayed by KC who gave up all their leverage without locking the player down. This does not feel very “Beane-esque”. I dunno, Poyer is quiet right now…. He’d be a huge loss for us…. Not as big of a loss as OB but big…. I think JaQuon Johnson would play if Poyer held out. JJ is super smart but a little smaller and a step slower…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s the reason he was traded in the first place. Ravens didn’t want to pay him. I thought the reason the Ravens traded him was they had just given Stanley the big contract to play LT and Orlando Brown wanted to play and be paid like a LT. That Stanley contract has been a loser so far for the Ravens as he has missed the most of two seasons since then. Staley is expected to be fully healthy this year. Edited July 15, 2022 by wjag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Not sure what's going on at the Chiefs board, but if that was a Bills player this thread would be on page 18 with the vitriol being hurled at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Jeezy, I know LT is a "premium" position, but isn't that like good QB/All Pro WR money? Salaries are getting stupid and I hope the Chiefs get fleeced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, cage said: Not sure what's going on at the Chiefs board, but if that was a Bills player this thread would be on page 18 with the vitriol being hurled at him They've convinced themselves that Orlando has no leverage and will take whatever they offer, otherwise he's just average anyway and they can replace him by either shuffling their Oline, or signing a Free Agent (including Eric Fisher their previous LT). The best case contract was to pay him $19-20mil/ year for 5 years then a 6th (voidable) for 50mil to make it look like He's the highest paid to sooth Brown's ego. Edited July 15, 2022 by unbillievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 9 hours ago, EffKCChiefs said: Good. Hopefully it lingers into the season and it effects Ronald McDonald's blind side. You mean…. Between the hair and the voice, well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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