Tua impressing in Miami

[newcam2012]

5 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I think he's hit his peak. He has nothing more to offer. 

 

He can put at the work in he wants but it's not gonna make him even 1% better. 

Hit his peak? Really? I don't think this is the case because he's still learning the NaFL game and pace. He hasn't played that much due to injuries and other coaching decisions. He can definelty grow and get better. However, I don't think he will wvwr be elite or a franchise QB. He can be a better version of Goeff or Jimmy G. Both of them went to the super bowl. 

[HappyDays]

23 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Seems sacrilegious to say this on TBD but while he is a limited quarterback in some ways he also does tend to hit his targets in game situations. I think he could be as good as Dak or Kirk Cousins and they have won their fair share of games. Will he be a top tier QB .. nope, but very likely a 2nd tier, if he continues to put in the work.

 

The way I look at it is that his absolute ceiling is Kirk Cousins and he's currently not anywhere near his ceiling. His optimistic upside is Jimmy Garrappolo. Currently he's a physically limited one-read QB which is barely even backup level.

[The Wiz]

7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Hit his peak? Really? I don't think this is the case because he's still learning the NaFL game and pace. He hasn't played that much due to injuries and other coaching decisions. He can definelty grow and get better. However, I don't think he will wvwr be elite or a franchise QB. He can be a better version of Goeff or Jimmy G. Both of them went to the super bowl. 

ok.  Hit his peak is a little harsh.  I just don't see him overcoming his limitations (height, pocket awareness, arm strength).  I'm sure he can improve on things but think he is always going to be limited and not get much further than a good backup QB.

[Albany,n.y.]

I can't wait until Tua sees the contracts that his fellow class of 20 QBs Burrow & Herbert get and demands the Dolphins match those for him.  😄

[Big Turk]

I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua.  I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work.  The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them.

 

If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Big Turk

[The Wiz]

13 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua.  I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work.  The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them.

 

If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed.

I was more impressed with Geno. 

 

And he only threw 195 yards. 

Edited September 15, 2022 by The Wiz

[HOUSE]

Meatloaf on a stale roll

[Niagara Bill]

44 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I think he's hit his peak. He has nothing more to offer. 

 

He can put at the work in he wants but it's not gonna make him even 1% better. 

He is at least a Michael Vick, who was never really great except in the press. 

I always find it amusing how some spend their time saying how much TTa is better than you think when entering the NFL and also how poor Josh will be.

Hmmmm

[Captain Hindsight]

 

[syhuang]

One looks quite different to the other 😎
 

 

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

7 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

 

So that’s why Tua always suck against us…because he ANTICIPATES getting his assed kicked by us very well 😎

[HappyDays]

 

[billsfan1959]

9 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua.  I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work.  The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them.

 

If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed.

 

I watched the game and I have to agree. His biggest gains of the day were:

(1) the 42 yd TD by Waddle. This was a good throw and Tua's strength - a 10 yd pass over the middle and he hit Waddle in stride. Waddle did the rest (aided by bad angles by two NE defenders),

(2) a 26 Yd pass to Hill that was floated 20 yds and caught by the defensive back. Hill literally took it away from the DB,

(3) a 23 yd pass to Hill. The throw was 19 yds, Hill didn't have a defender within 5 yds of him and the thow felt like it took forever to get there, literally just slightly less time in the air than Allen's 55 yd thow to Diggs

(4) an 18 yard pass to Hill where the throw was to the LOS,

(5) a 16 yd pass to Mostert that was a throw to the LOS,

(6) a 15 yard pass to Edmonds that was thrown 1 yd beyond the LOS.

 

Inside the New England 40, he was 2-4 for 9 yds, two sacks, one fumble, one dropped interception, and no touchdowns.

 

Every attempt over 15 yds seemed to be a struggle.

 

[Fleezoid]

2 hours ago, Draconator said:

 

Impressive comments

 

After they play the Bills, his comments will be revised slightly;

 

"If you can't see me, it's because all I see is Miller, Phillips, Basham and some guy named Rousseau."

 

"If I can't see you, it's because all I see is sky."

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua.  I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work.  The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them.

 

If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed.

I think the Miami fans have false hope. It's something Bills fans did with many past Qbs. 

[CapeBreton]

2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I can't wait until Tua sees the contracts that his fellow class of 20 QBs Burrow & Herbert get and demands the Dolphins match those for him.  😄

 

I really hope he earns that second contract and is there for a long time, they'll be mediocre as long as Tua is around.

[TBBills]

2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Seems sacrilegious to say this on TBD but while he is a limited quarterback in some ways he also does tend to hit his targets in game situations. I think he could be as good as Dak or Kirk Cousins and they have won their fair share of games. Will he be a top tier QB .. nope, but very likely a 2nd tier, if he continues to put in the work.

You should have watched the game then.

3 hours ago, Draconator said:

 

Impressive comments

Wow that is horrible...

1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

 

So Chad Pennington??? That sucks... hahahahaha

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dave-hyde-ryan-fitzpatrick-sean-124900934.html
 

Dave Hyde: Ryan Fitzpatrick calls Tua ‘limited’; Sean Payton’s view is worse

 

[Big Turk]

Definitely channeling his inner JP Losman at press conferences...I was waiting for a Yoda reference.

 

 

Edited September 15, 2022 by Big Turk

[Don Otreply]

15 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Definitely channeling his inner JP Losman at press conferences...I was waiting for a Yoda reference.

 

 

Maybe they can get him a booster seat or something…, 

[Scott7975]

Can't make those comments as a QB.  Wilson is short, Brees is short.  Those guys found space to see their receivers and get them the ball, not the other way around. Tua is taller than both of them.

 

I agree with Peyton.  I think Tua gets benched.  He may be accurate but he has no arm and no vision.  There are only so many gimmick 5 yards passes before most defenses figure it out.  Brady lived off those but he could also get the ball downfield.  I also think he is frail so if he starts getting hit a lot he may just put himself on the bench.

Edited September 16, 2022 by Scott7975

[Buffalo Super Fan]

Tua looks good against the JV team the New England Patriots wait a few weeks until the Varsity team the Buffalo Bills play Tua he won’t look so good in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[buffalo2218]

This title will be changed soon enough to Tua DEPRESSING in Miami

[TBBills]

People are betting what week Tua gets replaced.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

🤮 lets go 🤮 🐬 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 9/15/2022 at 6:47 PM, Don Otreply said:

Maybe they can get him a booster seat or something…, 

Murray has it...

[H2o]

On 9/15/2022 at 6:31 PM, Big Turk said:

Definitely channeling his inner JP Losman at press conferences...I was waiting for a Yoda reference.

 

 

So basically, Tua is saying he has trouble seeing the field. Also, he's saying that he is going to wait until guys are "open" and clearly in his line of sight before he will throw the ball. A recipe for disaster in this league. Both he and McDaniel make themselves sound like idiots. 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

PLEASE I implore you all...

 

He is not McDaniel... he is RUXIN.

 

Refer to him as Ruxin.

 

That is all! 😂

 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

So basically, Tua is saying he has trouble seeing the field. Also, he's saying that he is going to wait until guys are "open" and clearly in his line of sight before he will throw the ball. A recipe for disaster in this league. Both he and McDaniel make themselves sound like idiots. 

 

McDaniel reminds me of Ted Lasso in press conferences hahaha

[H2o]

Saw a stat on Countdown this morning. Only 6 of Tua's 33 pass attempts last week traveled more than 15 yards. And his noodle arm was on display, one-hopping passes to wide open receivers 20 yards away. 

[The Wiz]

3 minutes ago, H2o said:

Saw a stat on Countdown this morning. Only 6 of Tua's 33 pass attempts last week traveled more than 15 yards. And his noodle arm was on display, one-hopping passes to wide open receivers 20 yards away. 

His only completion over 15 was the one that Hill had to come back and steal it from the defender.

[Scott7975]

7 minutes ago, H2o said:

Saw a stat on Countdown this morning. Only 6 of Tua's 33 pass attempts last week traveled more than 15 yards. And his noodle arm was on display, one-hopping passes to wide open receivers 20 yards away. 

 

Of those 6 he only completed 2 and I am pretty sure 1 of those 2 was the Hill bail out that should have been intercepted.  In the same game 16 of Mac Jones 30 pass attempts were within 5 yards of the Los. 13 of his 20 completions lol.

Edited September 18, 2022 by Scott7975

[Bills2022]

Lamar Jackson and Tua both look like middle of the pack QB's with serious flaws in their games.  Wild Card caliber QB's. 

[Playoffs?]

1 minute ago, Bills2022 said:

Lamar Jackson and Tua both look like middle of the pack QB's with serious flaws in their games.  Wild Card caliber QB's. 

Fair enough, but Lamar is still in a whole other league than Tua. 

[mannc]

33 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

His only completion over 15 was the one that Hill had to come back and steal it from the defender.

It will be interesting to see Tua working against the banged up Ravens secondary.  I get that Tua doesn’t have a strong arm, but all he has to do is dump it off to Hill and Waddle…those guys are a problem.

[Bills2022]

2 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Fair enough, but Lamar is still in a whole other league than Tua. 

 

Lamar is better than Tua, but Tua has Hill, so I would put both in the wild card team category.  The Ravens offense looks terrible. Maybe that changes today.  

Edited September 18, 2022 by Bills2022

[Beck Water]

On 9/15/2022 at 5:31 PM, Big Turk said:

Definitely channeling his inner JP Losman at press conferences...I was waiting for a Yoda reference.

 

 

 

I will confess, that I am a reformed "Wrong Josh"er.   At the time, while believing that Josh Rosen could make the reads and deliver the football, I listened to Josh Rosen give interviews and I thought "OMG if the Bills draft him, I'm not going to be able to stand to watch his press conferences, Shoot Me Now, pound a railroad spike through my eardrums, I Just Can't."  

 

I didn't grasp the "charisma effect", the fact that NFL teams need a QB who energizes and engages the other guys and makes them want to "go harder", and that perhaps the same Rosen affect that made me think "I won't be able to make it through my second Josh Rosen press conference even if he's on my team" would also detract from his ability to bond with and energize his teammates.

 

So to me, that presser is just WRONG.  If Tua wants some different route-running or secondary route concepts or option routes or scramble drills from his WR, he needs to talk to his OC about what does and doesn't work for him, and he needs to take the WR aside or take them out to dinner or something and sketch it out positively - "look at this possibility, if you do THIS I'll be able to do THAT and get you the ball" or "I need better body language from you so I know which option you're going to run, let's work on that together after practice tomorrow".

 

He does NOT need to call his teammates out in the press like that.  Yes, if he can't see the WR, he can't get them the ball, but it's also on him to step up or sidestep and find the throwing lanes for himself, and to throw with anticipation - which is supposed to be one of his strengths.

 

 

Edited September 18, 2022 by Beck Water

[blacklabel]

Those comments...eesh...just kinda reaffirm the criticisms he gets that he's limited. He's gotta be able to adapt and find throwing lanes, or they can create visibility for him by moving him around and out of the pocket on some plays. I dunno, saying hey I'm small and can't see so run around until you see me, but also make sure I see you and then yeah I can throw you da ball...that's uh...like I said, it reaffirms that he's limited and you can only do so much with his skill set. McDaniel is creative and Hill and Waddle are good but even with that I don't think it'll compensate for Tua's shortcomings.

[TBBills]

If only TC lasted forever...

[Augie]

Impressions are funny. They can be good……or they can be bad. Tua is impressing, alright.