Tua impressing in Miami

[Don Otreply]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

The dolphins and pats don't need their QB's to be superstars to be contenders and/or threaten the Bills for the AFCE crown.

 

It's just weird seeing a fan base who went through 17 years of disappointment and failure look down on other teams that have a lot more success overall and bills mafia is setting themselves up for a major humbling if things don't go as planned...which is pretty much SB victory or bust at this point.

It’s a damn sports league! Lighten the heck up,  this is how it’s supposed to be done, it’s just been so long that you seem to have forgotten, nuthin but luv,

 

Go Bills!!!

[Orlando Tim]

9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

The dolphins and pats don't need their QB's to be superstars to be contenders and/or threaten the Bills for the AFCE crown.

 

It's just weird seeing a fan base who went through 17 years of disappointment and failure look down on other teams that have a lot more success overall and bills mafia is setting themselves up for a major humbling if things don't go as planned...which is pretty much SB victory or bust at this point.

You have decided it is win the super bowl this year or it is failure and the rest of us have the inappropriate expectations of our competition? There are a lot of teams that worry me but the Pats* are not a threat for the Super Bowl and the Phins still will likely gonna be hamstrung by Tua but they at least are really good elsewhere  

Edited August 16, 2022 by Buffalo Timmy

[FilthyBeast]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

You have decided it is win the super bowl this year or it is failure and the rest of us have the inappropriate expectations of our competition? There are a lot of teams that worry me but the Pats* are not a threat for the Super Bowl and the Phins still will likely gonna be hamstrung by Tua but they at least are really good elsewhere  

 

I haven't decided anything yet, and quite frankly I can easily see this team failing to come close to expectations because of one main elephant in the room named Sean McDermott.

 

What I'm referencing is the collective expectations of most fans on this forum, social media, etc talking superbowl or bust.

 

But again, regardless of what this team does or doesn't do has nothing to do with the aspirations of 31 other NFL teams including our 3 division rivals, two of which should be pretty solid worst case.

[teef]

15 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

The dolphins and pats don't need their QB's to be superstars to be contenders and/or threaten the Bills for the AFCE crown.

 

It's just weird seeing a fan base who went through 17 years of disappointment and failure look down on other teams that have a lot more success overall and bills mafia is setting themselves up for a major humbling if things don't go as planned...which is pretty much SB victory or bust at this point.

Who cares?  Are you really that concerned about the feelings of bills mafia?  If you want to be scared about this season, go right ahead. Personally, I’m going to enjoy every second of it.  If the bills don’t win the sb this year, I’ll live and get excited for next year.  

2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I haven't decided anything yet, and quite frankly I can easily see this team failing to come close to expectations because of one main elephant in the room named Sean McDermott.

 

What I'm referencing is the collective expectations of most fans on this forum, social media, etc talking superbowl or bust.

 

But again, regardless of what this team does or doesn't do has nothing to do with the aspirations of 31 other NFL teams including our 3 division rivals, two of which should be pretty solid worst case.

You haven’t decided anything, yet you say it over and over and over. 

[TBBills]

12 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

The dolphins and pats don't need their QB's to be superstars to be contenders and/or threaten the Bills for the AFCE crown.

 

It's just weird seeing a fan base who went through 17 years of disappointment and failure look down on other teams that have a lot more success overall and bills mafia is setting themselves up for a major humbling if things don't go as planned...which is pretty much SB victory or bust at this point.

Yet because of them not having good QBs the Bills have won the division the past 2 years.

 

Not to mention the Dolphins margin of loss against the Bills is 19+ ppg since Allen became QB. 

 

Your logic is not just flawed but like everyone knows on this site it's flat out wrong.

 

Every year you predict the Dolphins to win the AFC East and every year they don't even make the playoffs. Yet they have had more success than the Bills by your accounts.

 

Your trolling is bad and if you aren't trolling that makes it even worse.

 

I just wonder what your screen name is on the dolphins and Patriot boards. 

 

Edited August 17, 2022 by TBBills

[eball]

Guys, guys, guys…come on, @FilthyBeast is a filthy troll and he keeps sucking you all in.  Let him rot on the vine…

 

[GunnerBill]

13 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

The dolphins and pats don't need their QB's to be superstars to be contenders and/or threaten the Bills for the AFCE crown.

 

It's just weird seeing a fan base who went through 17 years of disappointment and failure look down on other teams that have a lot more success overall and bills mafia is setting themselves up for a major humbling if things don't go as planned...which is pretty much SB victory or bust at this point.

 

They don't need them to be superstars, no. But they both need them to take a considerable step forward. They are not even top 16 guys right now. Either of them. 

[PrimeTime101]

17 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

It's bad mojo to keep downplaying and underestimating the competition.

 

Both Tua and Mac Jones have looked to improve significantly during offseason/camp so far. Question of course is what happens when it matters most when the regular season starts.

you need to start getting used to the fact that we have a top notch deep rostered team. we are a top tiered team. rest of our division is a tier or more below us. Its bad mojo putting teams on a pedestal 

[FilthyBeast]

On 8/17/2022 at 6:16 AM, PrimeTime101 said:

you need to start getting used to the fact that we have a top notch deep rostered team. we are a top tiered team. rest of our division is a tier or more below us. Its bad mojo putting teams on a pedestal 

People truly have short memories and seem to forget this team was a mere 11-6 last year and at one point trailing the Pats by 2 full games in the division late in the season. And no matter which way it's spinned their season ended in the divisional round last year.

 

And while I agree that the Bills are the prohibitive favorites and team to beat in the division entering the season, that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to do that especially with how loaded the Dolphins roster is (which is still think is better than Buffalo in a lot of areas minus QB of course), and a feisty patriots team with a good young QB and 6 time WC head coach lurking on the sidelines.

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

I expect Miami to be the team that beats up on bad teams and gets beat up when they play actual good/playoff teams 

[teef]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

People truly have short memories and seem to forget this team was a mere 11-6 last year and at one point trailing the Pats by 2 full games in the division late in the season. And no matter which way it's spinned their season ended in the divisional round last year.

 

And while I agree that the Bills are the prohibitive favorites and team to beat in the division entering the season, that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to do that especially with how loaded the Dolphins roster is (which is still think is better than Buffalo in a lot of areas minus QB of course), and a feisty patriots team with a good young QB and 6 time WC head coach lurking on the sidelines.

 

the pats and bills were never close.  you may want to spin it that way, but i think the last two games taught reasonable fans everything they needed to know about the pats.  every year you start with the fear mongering, (especially with the phins) and it always blows up in your face.  why bother?

[What a Tuel]

 

8 minutes ago, teef said:

the pats and bills were never close.  you may want to spin it that way, but i think the last two games taught reasonable fans everything they needed to know about the pats.  every year you start with the fear mongering, (especially with the phins) and it always blows up in your face.  why bother?

 

because inevitably one year he will be right and will get his "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

[teef]

10 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

 

because inevitably one year he will be right and will get his "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

He'll still be one "i told you so" to his countless misses!

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

People truly have short memories and seem to forget this team was a mere 11-6 last year and at one point trailing the Pats by 2 full games in the division late in the season. And no matter which way it's spinned their season ended in the divisional round last year.

 

And while I agree that the Bills are the prohibitive favorites and team to beat in the division entering the season, that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to do that especially with how loaded the Dolphins roster is (which is still think is better than Buffalo in a lot of areas minus QB of course), and a feisty patriots team with a good young QB and 6 time WC head coach lurking on the sidelines.

 

Nuthin but luv dude, but you are one confused / scared fan, everything you say shows as much, its time for you to turn off your device and enjoy a really dry Martini 🍸 and a cigarette 🚬, and make a bootie call to your fav, that may be of some benefit to your outlook, just sayin, 

 

Go Bills!!!

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Nuthin but luv dude, but you are one confused / scared fan, everything you say shows as much, its time for you to turn off your device and enjoy a really dry Martini 🍸 and a cigarette 🚬, and make a bootie call to your fav, that may be of some benefit to your outlook, just sayin, 

 

Go Bills!!!

 

It's my understanding that @FilthyBeast is a Dolphins fan from the Dolphins message board. Not here as a Bills fan.

[FilthyBeast]

1 hour ago, teef said:

the pats and bills were never close.  you may want to spin it that way, but i think the last two games taught reasonable fans everything they needed to know about the pats.  every year you start with the fear mongering, (especially with the phins) and it always blows up in your face.  why bother?

 

Your just making up stuff and you know it.

 

After the Bucs game on Dec 12 the Pats were 2 full games ahead of the bills in the AFCE standings. Obviously we know how the season ultimately played but it could have been much different and the Bills were very fortunate to play a very soft closing schedule.

 

Also nobody is fearmongering, just pointing out that other teams have talent and expectations too and aren't going to bow down to the Bills along the way which was part of the problem last year with this team's inconsistency.

 

 

[TBBills]

7 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Your just making up stuff and you know it.

 

After the Bucs game on Dec 12 the Pats were 2 full games ahead of the bills in the AFCE standings. Obviously we know how the season ultimately played but it could have been much different and the Bills were very fortunate to play a very soft closing schedule.

 

Also nobody is fearmongering, just pointing out that other teams have talent and expectations too and aren't going to bow down to the Bills along the way which was part of the problem last year with this team's inconsistency.

 

 

All your stories end with "could have" see the problems with it.  You can have those stories with any team hell KC was under .500 at one point.

 

All you do is make up scenarios how things "could have" gone... but they didn't go that way and it sucks for you b.c it always makes you wrong.

Edited August 18, 2022 by TBBills

[Scott7975]

8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Your just making up stuff and you know it.

 

After the Bucs game on Dec 12 the Pats were 2 full games ahead of the bills in the AFCE standings. Obviously we know how the season ultimately played but it could have been much different and the Bills were very fortunate to play a very soft closing schedule.

 

Also nobody is fearmongering, just pointing out that other teams have talent and expectations too and aren't going to bow down to the Bills along the way which was part of the problem last year with this team's inconsistency.

 

 

And the Pats played a soft schedule as well.  Thats how seasons go... teams play top teams.  Teams play bottom teams.  Teams play middling teams.  All teams have hard points and easy points of their schedule.  This isn't rocket science.  Thats "soft" schedule also included beating the Pats in their own house when there weren't hurricane winds.

 

The Pats were pretenders last season.  They played a lot of soft teams and even when they played the tough ones they lucked into games with injured key players.

 

Yes you do fear monger.   You do this every damn season. You are wrong every damn season.

[WotAGuy]

The fact that everyone seems to remember the beast doing this every season pretty much disproves his “short memory” hypothesis. 🤣

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It's my understanding that @FilthyBeast is a Dolphins fan from the Dolphins message board. Not here as a Bills fan.

Thanks, 👍 he’s a troll then, 

[teef]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Your just making up stuff and you know it.

 

After the Bucs game on Dec 12 the Pats were 2 full games ahead of the bills in the AFCE standings. Obviously we know how the season ultimately played but it could have been much different and the Bills were very fortunate to play a very soft closing schedule.

 

Also nobody is fearmongering, just pointing out that other teams have talent and expectations too and aren't going to bow down to the Bills along the way which was part of the problem last year with this team's inconsistency.

 

 

There’s nothing made up about it trigger!  It wasn’t nearly as dire as you want to make it out to be.  At all.  The bills easily won the east as they should have.  
 

Also, who thinks other teams are going to bow down to the bills?  This is the nonsense that goes in in your head.  You’re the queen of “fearmongering”.  The majority of your posting consist of letting us know how the bills can fall apart,  fans will revolt if there isn’t a super bowl win, the staff isn’t good enough, etc.   Take a Xanax and learn to enjoy yourself. 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

People truly have short memories and seem to forget this team was a mere 11-6 last year and at one point trailing the Pats by 2 full games in the division late in the season. And no matter which way it's spinned their season ended in the divisional round last year.

 

And while I agree that the Bills are the prohibitive favorites and team to beat in the division entering the season, that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to do that especially with how loaded the Dolphins roster is (which is still think is better than Buffalo in a lot of areas minus QB of course), and a feisty patriots team with a good young QB and 6 time WC head coach lurking on the sidelines.

 

The Cheaters and Bills would have been tied if not for the wind game.  That was proven by the thrashing they administered to them in the next 2 games.  And the Cheaters got far worse over the off-season.  They're feisty because they know they have a bad team.

 

As for the Dol, the Bills are still better almost everywhere save for CB and arguably WR.  We'll see how they much they've closed the gap.

Edited August 18, 2022 by Doc

[PrimeTime101]

23 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

People truly have short memories and seem to forget this team was a mere 11-6 last year and at one point trailing the Pats by 2 full games in the division late in the season. And no matter which way it's spinned their season ended in the divisional round last year.

 

And while I agree that the Bills are the prohibitive favorites and team to beat in the division entering the season, that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to do that especially with how loaded the Dolphins roster is (which is still think is better than Buffalo in a lot of areas minus QB of course), and a feisty patriots team with a good young QB and 6 time WC head coach lurking on the sidelines.

 

ba ha ha ha

[TheFunPolice]

maybe they are pumping Tua up to trade him player for player for Brady, then Gronk comes out of retirement and signs there. 

[Royale with Cheese]

 

[Playoffs?]

On 8/18/2022 at 3:27 PM, FilthyBeast said:

 

Your just making up stuff and you know it.

 

After the Bucs game on Dec 12 the Pats were 2 full games ahead of the bills in the AFCE standings. Obviously we know how the season ultimately played but it could have been much different and the Bills were very fortunate to play a very soft closing schedule.

 

Also nobody is fearmongering, just pointing out that other teams have talent and expectations too and aren't going to bow down to the Bills along the way which was part of the problem last year with this team's inconsistency.

 

 

You are a Dolphins fan, correct?

How did both Bills vs Dolphins games go last season?

The Patriots won a fluke ‘wind’ game vs Buffalo… and then please tell me how the next two games shook out.  
 

Stop with this nonsense. Who cares who was ahead of who?  Your team and our team played a pretty similar schedule, no?  Had the Bills not had the biggest 13 second meltdown known to man, they could’ve been Super Bowl champions.  But they weren’t. Regardless, your Dolphins were golfing.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 8/16/2022 at 5:40 PM, FilthyBeast said:

 

The dolphins and pats don't need their QB's to be superstars to be contenders and/or threaten the Bills for the AFCE crown.

 

It's just weird seeing a fan base who went through 17 years of disappointment and failure look down on other teams that have a lot more success overall and bills mafia is setting themselves up for a major humbling if things don't go as planned...which is pretty much SB victory or bust at this point.

You must be the life at parties…I think the fact that we suffered a 17 year drought gives us the RIGHT to make fun of lesser teams and especially the ones in our division. I’ve been clowned for being a Bills fan my entire life and put up with so much abuse so I think it’s my time to gloat. 

[buffalo2218]

On 8/19/2022 at 12:13 PM, TheFunPolice said:

maybe they are pumping Tua up to trade him player for player for Brady, then Gronk comes out of retirement and signs there. 

So Brady's absence was him being back on Ross' yacht again?

[TBBills]

Tua impresses in practice but looks like the same old Tua in preseason... Tua sucks.

Edited August 23, 2022 by TBBills

[C.Biscuit97]

I’m telling you he’s going to have good stats in the offense because like SF with Jimmy G, they hide their qbs. Lots of screens and open throws. But when it’s 3rd and 10 with the game on the line, that’s where his lack of major talent will show up. 
 

these Bama qbs. Has there been a good one? I like Young but man, it’s so easy to be good there. 

[BillsShredder83]

On 8/18/2022 at 3:56 PM, Don Otreply said:

Thanks, 👍 he’s a troll then, 

His mother works down by the docks

[billsfan1959]

20 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I’m telling you he’s going to have good stats in the offense because like SF with Jimmy G, they hide their qbs. Lots of screens and open throws. But when it’s 3rd and 10 with the game on the line, that’s where his lack of major talent will show up. 
 

these Bama qbs. Has there been a good one? I like Young but man, it’s so easy to be good there. 

 

I actually think Mike McDaniel has a pretty bright offensive mind. There is a reason Shanahan took McDaniel with him everywhere he went. You are right about Tua's fit in the offense. It features lots of screens, slants, and short crossing routes, all of which play to Tua's strength: his accuracy in the short game. I believe he will put up pretty decent stats, particularly if they do well in the RAC area. I think any consistent downfield success for Tua will depend entirely on how the run game goes and how well Tua does with play action. His real struggle willl come, as you say, when he has to throw (especially downfield) and the defense knows he has to throw.

[NickelCity]

8 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I actually think Mike McDaniel has a pretty bright offensive mind. There is a reason Shanahan took McDaniel with him everywhere he went. You are right about Tua's fit in the offense. It features lots of screens, slants, and short crossing routes, all of which play to Tua's strength: his accuracy in the short game. I believe he will put up pretty decent stats, particularly if they do well in the RAC area. I think any consistent downfield success for Tua will depend entirely on how the run game goes and how well Tua does with play action. His real struggle willl come, as you say, when he has to throw (especially downfield) and the defense knows he has to throw.

 

His rep is as a good offensive mind, but I think a head coaching role is an entirely different beast that he's perhaps unsuited for. 

[eball]

55 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I’m telling you he’s going to have good stats in the offense because like SF with Jimmy G, they hide their qbs. Lots of screens and open throws. But when it’s 3rd and 10 with the game on the line, that’s where his lack of major talent will show up. 
 

these Bama qbs. Has there been a good one? I like Young but man, it’s so easy to be good there. 

 

It's very possible they'll be a playoff team because they do have a good defense and this nerd McDaniel is crafty with the offense.  Where I question that team is, as you said, when push comes to shove and they have to throw the football, as well as how strong of a leader the HC is.

 

[billsfan1959]

8 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

His rep is as a good offensive mind, but I think a head coaching role is an entirely different beast that he's perhaps unsuited for. 

 

I agree that being a head coach is much different than being a coordinator and that not all coordinators are equipped to be head coaches. However, I don't believe we have any information to say whether or not McDaniel has what it takes to be a successful head coach. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise.

[freddyjj]

14 minutes ago, eball said:

these Bama qbs. Has there been a good one?

Ok I am old but from the Cro-Magnon period, 3 HOFers in Starr, Namath and Stabler.

From the Saban era not so much.  Michael MacCorkle and Tua will be average QBs at best in this league over time.

[eball]

8 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Ok I am old but from the Cro-Magnon period, 3 HOFers in Starr, Namath and Stabler.

From the Saban era not so much.  Michael MacCorkle and Tua will be average QBs at best in this league over time.

 

You did the quote thingy wrong.  That wasn't my quote.

[NickelCity]

2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I agree that being a head coach is much different than being a coordinator and that not all coordinators are equipped to be head coaches. However, I don't believe we have any information to say whether or not McDaniel has what it takes to be a successful head coach. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise.

 

Fair enough. I'm indexing entirely too much on that recent interview he did where he was talking about Tua. His whole demeanor seems like a schtick that would wear thin in a locker room. 

[BullBuchanan]

On 5/24/2022 at 5:43 PM, FilthyBeast said:

 

A lot of experts insist Tua would have been the #1 overall pick in 2020 if not for the injury he suffered in college. He definitely was elite in Alabama playing on a powerhouse program and was still a top 5 pick regardless.

 

Whether or not he truly takes the next step in the NFL remains to be seen but I think he's been a lot better than people have given him credit for these last few years and all young QB's take time to develop as we are all aware with JA17's trajectory thus far.

He's been noticeably worse than a player like Mayfield and has consistently been in the bottom 1/4 of starting QBs since entering the league. He's closer to Sam Darnold than he is to JA at this point.

[Beck Water]

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