Rd 3, Pick 89 (25): LB Terrell Bernard, Baylor

[UKBillFan]

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

In a good way or bad way. I haven’t viewed over that way yet. 

 

Bad. Joe Marino hated it the moment it was done. An utter reach at least two rounds too early.

[atlbillsfan1975]

10 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

This has zero effect on what the Bills end up doing with Edmunds. Bernard is closer to being a safety than he is to being a MLB.

He does look like he could be insurance for Poyer. 

[Mopreme]

Just now, Jerry Jabber said:

With AJ Klein gone, the Bills needed a replacement 

With guy who can’t shed blockers and undersized as well As bad shoulders. Sounds good. 

[NewEra]

@Doc or maybe we could’ve used that 4th round pick to trade up 6 spots and draft Nakobe Dean.  Missed out on two huge trade ups in rd 2 and 3. 
 

ok. I’ll never talk about it again.  

Edited April 30, 2022 by NewEra

[buffblue]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Duck and run man.

I'll take the negative reactions.

 

I am generally pleased with our decision makers. How could I not be after 20 years of suckage.

 

I just hate to see a talent like Allen never given a full arsenal of weapons to work with. As much as I love Gabe and Steph, speed still kills. Seems to me we could've been more aggressive 

[Bruffalo]

Just now, HurlyBurly51 said:

Which pick was worse - Cole Strange or Terrell Bernard?

I'm trying not to be a homer but Cole Strange was a much worse pick if only for the fact that the Patriots traded Shaq Mason, a top 10 guard, for a 5th and then replaced him with a first round pick. 

 

They literally filled a hole with a premium asset that they created for themselves.

[Buffalo03]

19 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Parham should have been the pick.  This guy could have been had with one of our 6th round picks or maybe even a UDFA.  There's no highlight reel for him on youtube, and no one has him listed as a day 1 starter.  A real reach in the 3rd round.  A true WTF pick.

Hmmm... that's weird....I found one

 

[LabattBlue]

In a year where offense needed to be addressed, 2 of 3 picks are used on defense.  Smells like a McD choice. 
 

May end up being a decent backup/ST guy, but at pick 89?  I say BS. 

 

👎🏻👎🏻

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Who needs WR when you can add a back up LB/core special teamer in the 3rd round?… we got Josh Allen, he does all the work on offense so we good there… need more depth at LB in case one gets hurt.

 

Hell, we could've given up our second to move up and just picked Rachaad White in the 3rd, but of course would have to miss out on the extra 6th rounders. Not sure it would be worth it.

[CNYfan]

The player says he will come in and compete on special teams?

I will see what happens but this was odd drafting.   Cook was early third and Baylor was 4th or 5th

[MPT]

Just now, Jerboski said:

Nobody does 

 

it was a reach… can’t tell me that was the BAP

 

complete reach 

Bad they hated it 

 

I agree. I was responding to somebody who said they trusted Cover 1 more than Joe Marino and was pointing out that they all had the same opinion of the pick.

[Big Blitz]

3 minutes ago, buffblue said:

Honest question - Where exactly is our receiver to take the top off of defenses?

 

 

 

 

You missed the part of last season where teams said "nope, 2 deep shell....you're going to have to dink and dunk your way down the field."

 

There is legit one guy in the NFL that teams fear doing this to them - Hill.  That's it.  That's the list.  Sure you'll catch a D sleeping here and there.  But don't sweat not having pure deep guys on the roster.  

 

But having McKenzie and Cook in addition to Diggs and Davis on the field will give them plenty to worry about.  

 

Now WR depth?  Yes, we can use 1 more.  

[newcam2012]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Yep. From what I've seen, kind of a tweener. But so is Milano and they definitely figured out how to make the best of his talents. Maybe that's the new market inefficiency that Beane is trying to exploit. I'm not sure any of us are in a position to second guess Beane on this one.

I am second guessing this one. He could have been drafted in the 5th round. So many better choices were available. Time will tell. On paper, this sure looks like a huge reach. Don't like this pick one bit. 

[KOKBILLS]

Just now, Jerry Jabber said:

With AJ Klein gone, the Bills needed a replacement 

 

That's exactly what this is...A bit smaller guy than would be expected. But he's an 8.88 RAS only being pulled down by height/weight/length...

 

A team Captain who was MVP of his last game with 20 TT's!...He's Drafted to be the Bills 3rd LB...We'll see...

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

Hmmm... that's weird....I found one

 

He actually plays good. I like how aggressive he is and tackles so quickly. He finds the lane and just goes. Not sure how well he sheds blocks though. 

[BillsFan130]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah….that’s the WORST CASE.  Not sure why I’m here right now.  I should know better

I don't know the kid to be honest. I was just reacting to your post.

 

Let's hope he turns out to be a stud of course.

[billsbackto81]

Was the 6th Round card turned in by accident?

[Mopreme]

1 minute ago, CNYfan said:

The player says he will come in and compete on special teams?

I will see what happens but this was odd drafting.   Cook was early third and Baylor was 4th or 5th

So basically we didnt have a 2nd round pick? 

[BillsFanForever19]

It doesn't matter what grade YOU had on him. They had a 3rd Round Grade on him. We cut AJ Klein and have Tyrel Dodson as the next guy on the LB depth chart after Edmunds and Milano. Let's see how they use him and how he plays before we sh-t all over the pick.

Edited April 30, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[buffblue]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

You would never know that based on what you post on this board.  

I have 300 posts lol. I was mostly a lurker until recently. 

 

Believe me, I am very positive on the overall outlook of the Bills. Am I not allowed to have some critiques?

[CountDorkula]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

You missed the part of last season where teams said "nope, 2 deep shell....you're going to have to dink and dunk your way down the field."

 

There is legit one guy in the NFL that teams fear doing this to them - Hill.  That's it.  That's the list.  Sure you'll catch a D sleeping here and there.  But don't sweat not having pure deep guys on the roster.  

 

But having McKenzie and Cook in addition to Diggs and Davis on the field will give them plenty to worry about.  

 

Now WR depth?  Yes, we can use 1 more.  

But if yo don't have one, then other teams don't even have to worry about it. 

 

Continually building defense is stange to me, especailly for a guy like this who nobody is even sure where he is gona play.. 

[Mopreme]

1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

It doesn't matter what grade YOU had on him. They had a 3rd Round Grade on him. We cut AJ Klein and have Tyrel Dodson as the next guy on the LB depth chart after Edmunds and Milano. Let's see how they use him and how he plays before we sh-t all over the pick.

This pick sucks. 

[NeverOutNick]

I was hopeful for purdues David Bell but I’m going to trust Beane on this one. He’s more right than wrong

[Milanos Milano]

Wow actually watching that highlight video I like it. He looks promising despite his size. Very decisive. It’s actually a breath of fresh air. 

[Rocket94]

I am sure the Bills know what they are doing, but I find it hard to believe that they have passed over some really good players to arrive at this point. What kind of "board" have they created!

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

13 minutes ago, MPT said:

 

They don't like the pick either.

I am not saying that Marino or cover 1 is wrong (or right) on the pick. My comment was more general— I don’t care for Marino generally, at least compared to the cover 1 guys. The cover 1 analysis is just generally more deep and data and film driven. 

 

[Milanos Milano]

If only Edmunds could close that fast. 

[Motorin']

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

Wow actually watching that highlight video I like it. He looks promising despite his size. Very decisive. It’s actually a breath of fresh air. 

 

He reminds me a little bit of Darius Leonard. 

[newcam2012]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

It doesn't matter what grade YOU had on him. They had a 3rd Round Grade on him. We cut AJ Klein and have Tyrel Dodson as the next guy on the LB depth chart after Edmunds and Milano. Let's see how they use him and how he plays before we ***** all over the pick.

The Bills sure do look to have an underwhelming lb core. 

[Mopreme]

Just now, Rocket94 said:

I am sure the Bills know what they are doing, but I find it hard to believe that they have passed over some really good players to arrive at this point. What kind of "board" have they created!

Not a good one.  

[Rocket94]

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

It doesn't matter what grade YOU had on him. They had a 3rd Round Grade on him. We cut AJ Klein and have Tyrel Dodson as the next guy on the LB depth chart after Edmunds and Milano. Let's see how they use him and how he plays before we sh-t all over the pick.

Could’ve been a 4th round grade. The draft didn’t a fall great in the 3rd. Some players fans wanted were still there but not a whole lot.

[DapperCam]

Seems like a reach. I'm guessing special teams to start. He could be Milano's replacement, we can get out of his contract in 2 years. Could be some medium term thinking going on here.

[BillsFanForever19]

2 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

This pick sucks. 

 

 

[Rocket94]

These guys love Bernard!

[Roundybout]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

The Bills lost Tre white, their best defensive player on the team, for the year in week 12…. They went on to have their best win/loss record of the season…. You can’t tell me they “needed a replacement” for AJ Klein in round 3. 😅

 

They WANTED a replacement for him. 

 

Good!!!

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

He reminds me a little bit of Darius Leonard. 

Im sorry I bashed this kid seeming how I didn’t know about him. Just from the short amount I’ve seen I really like it. So so decisive. Instincts out the wazoo. Definitely not an Edmunds so there is that. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Per Beane, sounds like they liked his smarts, instinct, and versatility. They think he can play inside and outside. 
 

like other speculated, they trust this Baylor coach, who is a straight shooter and said Bernard is outstanding. 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I am second guessing this one. He could have been drafted in the 5th round. So many better choices were available. Time will tell. On paper, this sure looks like a huge reach. Don't like this pick one bit. 

This is the thinking that I disagree with. If he could've been drafted in the 5th round (or let's say late 4th) and everybody knew that, Beane obviously would've made the deals he needed to make to trade down. Once in a while we see truly weird picks (the Pats taking that UT-Chattanooga G was one this year) where there's no reason to believe they wouldn't last another couple rounds, but this is a rarity. Everyone sees the same tape, the same scouting reports, etc., etc., particularly from a program like Baylor.

[Rochesterfan]

 

Interesting - I will wait to see the plan, but I wonder if this signals further change in the defensive plans.

 

We drafted a press man corner with speed.  Do we start to transition to a 4-3-4, but with 1 deep safety, 2 CBs that can play man/Zone, and Taron as a slot coverage. 
 

We then have Milano and Bernard on the outside with speed and tackling to attack the edges of the offense and Edmunds patrolling middle.

 

Gives you coverage with DBs and Johnson - deep safety protection - and more size and speed at the LB position versus a 2nd safety.

 

Plus we struggled when Milano was injured - now you have that back-up also.

 

I get the WTF idea, but It seemed like before the White injury last year - they were adjusting the defense to be more aggressive.  I think with the speed and the lack of arm strength at QB in the division - maybe it gives a couple of guys that can help take away the quick routes better.