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Rd 2, Pick 63 (31): RB James Cook, Georgia


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16 minutes ago, bills_fan said:

I feel like we got the wrong brother.  This feels like drafting Jeremy Giambi in fantasy baseball circa 2001 bc Jason was such a beast.  A second round scatback who is likely to see 50 touches all year is meh.  Should have just traded up for Hall IMHO.  That would have been a weapon.  Now we have to defend against him 2xs a year.

 

OR we could have traded up for Jameson Williams and got Rachaad White or Tariq Woolen in the 3rd

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8 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

OR we could have traded up for Jameson Williams and got Rachaad White or Tariq Woolen in the 3rd

 

It would have cost the Bills' first 3 picks and probably their 2nd 6th rounder to trade up for Williams.  A guy still recovering from ACL surgery and who likely won't contribute much this season.

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16 minutes ago, gridirongold said:

I've seen a lot of Georgia games and I musta been making a sandwich on these big plays every single time. Pipe dreamin. Breece Hall would give ya a Curtis Martin type.  Walker would give ya a Chuck Foreman type. This guy is like a devonta freeman

Walker is terrible at pass blocking. Critical in today's game.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

It would have cost the Bills' first 3 picks to trade up for Williams.  A guy still recovering from ACL surgery and who likely won't contribute much this season.

He’ll be fine. Now with hindsight knowing we used the 3rd on a special teamer and the 2nd on a running back(I actually like cook) I would absolutely trade all 3 for Williams. We can get a CB and RB in round 4 and 5

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I can't believe how many "analysts" are saying Cook is fairly similar to Motor.

 

Lol.  Motor has become a monster in short yardage between the tackle make guys miss carry piles back that you can throw to.  He's not great at receiving but he can.

 

Cook is going to be lighting to Motor's thunder and be a matchup problem.  A home run hitter where Singletary is not.  

 

They are absolutely compliments and not the same.  If Singletary was 6'1 and maintained his frame he'd look like Nick Chubb....just not as fast.  

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3 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

He’ll be fine. Now with hindsight knowing we used the 3rd on a special teamer and the 2nd on a running back(I actually like cook) I would absolutely trade all 3 for Williams. We can get a CB and RB in round 4 and 5

 

Williams won't do much this season.  He'll probably start off on PUP and maybe get into games later-on but barely produce.  Then where he goes from there is anyone's guess.  Not even close to worth it.

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27 minutes ago, bills_fan said:

 

Unfortunately for him, he doesnt get to play Vanderbilt and some other weaker schools anymore.  In the NFL, he is a scatback.

 Did you not hear the commentators say every linebacker in the AFC has just been put on notice when they announce the pic. The guy is a stud RB geeeezzzz!

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1 hour ago, Mopreme said:

Anyone know how he compares to

Kamara in terms of measurables? 

He measures up speed wise it looks like. Looks shifty in a small crowd. But Kamara is 220, and powerful. Always amazes me that he’s seen as a screen catcher. Nobody on defense wants to tangle with Kamara. He’s freakish strong, thick, and fast. A true three down back build and skill set. Like generational talent. 
 

If James compares to Dalvin, I foresee explosive plays, and injuries if he’s used too much. Dalvin already broke down. The Cooks are physical phenomena, but they’re light in the joints and Dalvin takes hits in the NFL, which they can’t hold up against. Dalvin used to look for contact, but I bet those days are behind him. So here’s to hoping James Cook does not see 15+ touches in most games. Some, but please not most. Unless it’s very meaningful January and February football. 

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Williams won't do much this season.  He'll probably start off on PUP and maybe get into games later-on but barely produce.  Then where he goes from there is anyone's guess.  Not even close to worth it.


Well that’s like, your opinion man

 

I may have agreed with you had I not seen this alternate reality. The perceived “worth” of the picks imo is greatly reduced 

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5 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Well that’s like, your opinion man

 

I may have agreed with you had I not seen this alternate reality. The perceived “worth” of the picks imo is greatly reduced 

 

Right back at you.  We can revisit this in a year's time, or whenever Williams finally recovers and becomes worthy of the 12the overall pick.  Although being on the Lions hurts his production.

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16 minutes ago, Sestak4ever said:

Walker is terrible at pass blocking. Critical in today's game.

Hmm.. maybe but he sure passes the eye test at helping his team win. You watched last season? Damn shame they don't try to hurry this Allen cat some help. Sure looked to me like he had the team on his back. That'll sell. That part is in order not only locally, but also nationally.  Sure looks like the guy has a real desire to actually win even if the brass doesn't. Today's NFL is the appeal of fantasy types, yet the today's NFL champions are much like those all through the history of the NFL.

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2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Kind of better than reaching on a receiver. This is the kind of “receiver” we needed— hopefully can finally have a great screen and check down game. 
 

Herbert throws 2-yard dump offs to Ekler who gets like 12 yards out of them. Hoping Cook will be the same kind of weapon. 

He can do more than that in the pass game.  

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49 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Finally, someone that can catch the ball and get YAC.  Does the NFL still check for weed? Because that dude was high af.

 

Had a bad case of the sniffles.  Hope its not a bad cold!

 

But seriously.  I am super pumped for this dude!  Seems like he will fit this offense perfectly.

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17 minutes ago, gridirongold said:

Hmm.. maybe but he sure passes the eye test at helping his team win. You watched last season? Damn shame they don't try to hurry this Allen cat some help. Sure looked to me like he had the team on his back. That'll sell. That part is in order not only locally, but also nationally.  Sure looks like the guy has a real desire to actually win even if the brass doesn't. Today's NFL is the appeal of fantasy types, yet the today's NFL champions are much like those all through the history of the NFL.

I don't remember Michigan St. winning the big 10, and a weak one at that. Allen has all the help he needs and will always be Josh no matter what. The brass and Josh are just fine. Super Bowl victories on the horizon. 

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15 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Does he remind anyone else of Aaron Jones? I think they're similar with their pass catching ability and route running


I see that. Very similar size, although I’m convinced Jones’s playing weight is 180ish. He looks soooo skinny out there. The thing is with the Jones, Kamara, and big bro Cook comparisons.. I believe all three of those guys dropped in the draft because of character issues, but here we are taking our Cook too high..? That’s not a good sign, sadly. 

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2 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:


I see that. Very similar size, although I’m convinced Jones’s playing weight is 180ish. He looks soooo skinny out there. The thing is with the Jones, Kamara, and big bro Cook comparisons.. I believe all three of those guys dropped in the draft because of character issues, but here we are taking our Cook too high..? That’s not a good sign, sadly. 

The only thing I didn't like is it did look like he was high off his ass on draft day

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27 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Does he remind anyone else of Aaron Jones? I think they're similar with their pass catching ability and route running

 

I see Austin Ekeler.

Ekeler is 5'10 200 4.48 40

James Cook 5'11 190-199 4.42 40

 

Both have excellent hands, and can run some if needed

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3 hours ago, Simstim said:

Personally, still stung by Gilmore. Never forget his look when we drafted him. Been oversensitive ever since. Can't help it.

 

However, I am totally relaxed about Cook now having seen the context and early intervview.

 

100% feel the same way way. But I have to say, Gilmore, while he was here, balled. So I have no disrespect to him but that draft moment is so unBuffalo. We can move on though yes?

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1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

I see Austin Ekeler.

Ekeler is 5'10 200 4.48 40

James Cook 5'11 190-199 4.42 40

 

Both have excellent hands, and can run some if needed

Yeah that’s one of the better comparisons. Ekeler is definitely more compact and has more muscle mass.  
 

His route running and running style in the open field reminds me of Kamara, but he is not nearly as physical.  Cook is more of WR in the open field than he is a Rb.  Very little tackle breaking and not much make you miss.   Burst and run away from you type stuff.  
 

I hope that he’s willing to put in the work in the weight room so he has a better chance of staying healthy and is more effective running the ball and in pass protection. 

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I love this pick. Pass catching speed guy that can make defenses worry about whether to play with an extra defensive back or LB. Belicheck won’t know to cheat his lineup against us. He will end up rushing 2 and making us run it again. 

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I like the player. Bills had trouble beating 2-high safety last year. They just couldn’t run out if it, they’ll beat it with checkdowns. You want to treat him as a RB, and cover with a LB, good luck.

 

Also, going to be a real problem when Bills run 12 personnel. Diggs, Davis, Knox, Howard and now Cook. All pass catchers. Good luck to the opposing teams LBs.

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4 hours ago, gridirongold said:

Snow. Hahaha. Josh still your best runner your best at short yardage runner and your best at breaking tackles. Shady Mccoy wasny on a Bills' team this talented and the point is you fill the need to get W's. You're still taxing your quarterbacks longevity. Idgaf about the appeal of the breathtaking plays they guy can make.  I want first downs and time of possession and a chance to actually get the superbowl monkey off every loyal Bills fans back. You go wave your towel and be in awe over the clown. He doesn't take anything off the load the qb has on his back. Maybe they don't care cause everyone sure buys it.

ok? josh is an elite runner at 3rd and short and would take him over atleast 25 other backs in 3rd n short. we shoulda took one of the multiple jonathan taylors of the draft lol

 and yeah because no pass catching rb has ever helped convert 3rd downs. you sound really smart, im more than willing to end a conversation with you :thumbsup:

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36 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Dunno if it was mentioned here before, but Cook has a 27.8 BMI.

 

that’s nuts.  After listening to eisens interview and his FaceTime interview, it sounds like dude just smokes fatties all day. Nothing wrong with that…if you’re not a professional athlete. Some of the day, fine….but a 28 bmi is 👎🏻 

 

Time to clean that up.

 

While this could all be bad news…..it can also be great news.  If we can get him into the best shape of his life, we might see a better version 

image.thumb.jpeg.2c8dc94732f1779d4bc50e422b0a8f27.jpegYeah looks like 28 bmi to me 

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43 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Dunno if it was mentioned here before, but Cook has a 27.8 BMI.

 

that’s nuts.  After listening to eisens interview and his FaceTime interview, it sounds like dude just smokes fatties all day. Nothing wrong with that…if you’re not a professional athlete. Some of the day, fine….but a 28 bmi is 👎🏻 

 

Time to clean that up.

 

While this could all be bad news…..it can also be great news.  If we can get him into the best shape of his life, we might see a better version 

Something tells me you don't know the limitations of the BMI index.  What's his body fat percentage?  For example, Isaiah McKenzie has a 26.3 BMI and is considered overweight.  His brother Dalvin's BMI is 30.1 and he's considered obese by that metric. 

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6 hours ago, gridirongold said:

Snow. Hahaha. Josh still your best runner your best at short yardage runner and your best at breaking tackles. Shady Mccoy wasny on a Bills' team this talented and the point is you fill the need to get W's. You're still taxing your quarterbacks longevity. Idgaf about the appeal of the breathtaking plays they guy can make.  I want first downs and time of possession and a chance to actually get the superbowl monkey off every loyal Bills fans back. You go wave your towel and be in awe over the clown. He doesn't take anything off the load the qb has on his back. Maybe they don't care cause everyone sure buys it.

Didn't matter which RB you drafted Josh is better than everyone. A RB would never change that...  

 

You notice the only teams that took a RB early are the ones who have zero chance at making the playoffs.

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Dunno if it was mentioned here before, but Cook has a 27.8 BMI.

 

that’s nuts.  After listening to eisens interview and his FaceTime interview, it sounds like dude just smokes fatties all day. Nothing wrong with that…if you’re not a professional athlete. Some of the day, fine….but a 28 bmi is 👎🏻 

 

Time to clean that up.

 

While this could all be bad news…..it can also be great news.  If we can get him into the best shape of his life, we might see a better version 

Man if only you knew what you were talking about.

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