Mopreme Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I wonder if his draft status was elevated due to his relationship with Dalvin. He is a tweener and doesnt have the physicals to be a three down back. Is he that much better than someone like Ty Chandler or another pass catching rb in this draft? I would have preferred Rashard White or Isiah Spiller. Both bigger guys with great measuresbles who could be three down backs in NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) I won't question Beane's draft, or where he picks who, but as for the player... he will have an impact. His cut ability and speed is undoubtedly gonna lead to some big plays this year. It'll be hard for haters to hate then. Also, with Dorsey's new offense and the signing of Howard and Crowder and now the addition of Cook, it looks like Moss and McKenzie will be the odd men out. Edited April 30, 2022 by babulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, njbuff said: Terrell Davis never started at Georgia either. He was a 6th round pick not 2nd. Seems gimmicky to not only pick a RB so high but one that is so specific in his use. Was he really that high on their board or did they just want to get a pass catching RB so bad after getting scorned in free agency? The 3rd round LB pick is questionable too. Again, a gimmicky guy drafted higher than expected. No real position but probably use him to cover TE's and play special teams. That's fine if that's what they wanted and needed. But I definitely don't think they went Best Player Available as Beane says he always does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: yup. his main role will be as a pass catching RB, not the featured back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Bro Always looks high 🤣 Edited April 30, 2022 by YoloinOhio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 10 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Yeah. Didn’t seem thrilled. Mom was kicking friends out lol She was trying to make sure she had leftovers for this weekend and didn't want people to keep eating all the chitlins 😂 11 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: He was a 6th round pick not 2nd. Seems gimmicky to not only pick a RB so high but one that is so specific in his use. Was he really that high on their board or did they just want to get a pass catching RB so bad after getting scorned in free agency? The 3rd round LB pick is questionable too. Again, a gimmicky guy drafted higher than expected. No real position but probably use him to cover TE's and play special teams. That's fine if that's what they wanted and needed. But I definitely don't think they went Best Player Available as Beane says he always does. They already got a pass catching back in Duke Johnson who is better in his career than McKissic is at it from a statistics standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KDIGGZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: They already got a pass catching back in Duke Johnson who is better in his career than McKissic is at it from a statistics standpoint. Old and only 1 year deal, he can be cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 hours ago, NewEra said: Dunno if it was mentioned here before, but Cook has a 27.8 BMI. that’s nuts. After listening to eisens interview and his FaceTime interview, it sounds like dude just smokes fatties all day. Nothing wrong with that…if you’re not a professional athlete. Some of the day, fine….but a 28 bmi is 👎🏻 Time to clean that up. While this could all be bad news…..it can also be great news. If we can get him into the best shape of his life, we might see a better version I don’t care about BMI. That metric is skewed against overly muscular humans. Body fat percentage is the issue. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Old and only 1 year deal, he can be cut He's 28 and doesn't have that many miles on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: He's 28 and doesn't have that many miles on him. The guy they just got is 22. 30 is pretty much end of the road for RB these days Edited April 30, 2022 by KDIGGZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I love draft time. You can go through these threads and find out those that just want to be miserable about everything, troll or push agendas. fact is after Day three Bills got 3 top end athletes in areas that will help this team continue their yearly push to the playoffs and hopefully soon Hoisting the Lombardi. 5 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: I love draft time. You can go through these threads and find out those that just want to be miserable about everything, troll or push agendas. fact is after Day three Bills got 3 top end athletes in areas that will help this team continue their yearly push to the playoffs and hopefully soon Hoisting the Lombardi. The interesting thing about the last 2 picks is that they supplement both sides of the team to make it more effective without having to come in and start right away. That’s because they don’t have a lot of holes. They filled the glaring hole in the 1st and now just trying to escalate everywhere else. When you have teams that traded away key pieces or let key guys walk like the chiefs or just lack talent like the jets you have to replace starters with rookies on day 2. cook is a luxury pick on offense who is souped up hybrid guy. Great route runner and pass catching weapon out of the backfield. Allows the offense to evolve. We did not need a between the tackles RB. Then you have the defensive chess piece for different matchups - super smart, alpha leader with athletic profile to come in and contribute wherever McDermott wants him. He trusts Dave Aranda’s opinion a lot. 4 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Tasked called the first two picks on OBL. Can’t wait to see what this guy does in this offense. This is a great piece to add, a guy who can run routes, catch and can run. 4 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: For Christ's sake McD, let Cook cook He looked to be baking….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGiveItToEm Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Dunno if it was mentioned here before, but Cook has a 27.8 BMI. that’s nuts. After listening to eisens interview and his FaceTime interview, it sounds like dude just smokes fatties all day. Nothing wrong with that…if you’re not a professional athlete. Some of the day, fine….but a 28 bmi is 👎🏻 Time to clean that up. While this could all be bad news…..it can also be great news. If we can get him into the best shape of his life, we might see a better version BMI? What is this, 1972? I'm supposed to be like 170 lbs to be a healthy BMI at 6'. There was a point where I weighed 210 and looked sick. BMI is nonsense. What's his body fat % At his listed height/weight Josh Allen's BMI is 28.1 oh nooooo! Singletary is 31.8 so he is "obese." Spencer Brown is 34.2. Definitely a fat slob and not a freak athlete Edited April 30, 2022 by JustGiveItToEm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Allows the offense to evolve. Anybody else excited to see what our new OC offers? It seems there has been an effort to evolve the offense with a lot of moving pieces. They tried to get McKissic and that didn't work out so now they have Cook. The re-signed McKenzie and signed an athletic TE. I foresee lots of shifts and options. They could line up in a 2TE run heavy set....and then shift Howard and Cook out wide and go empty....but still run the ball with a sweep to McKenzie or that fake to McKenzie with Josh keeping it. Or pass the ball, having spread out the defense and threatening the edges, run Knox down the seem. There's a lot they can do to make this offense really fun. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I’m obsessed with this pick. Might need to see a doctor 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m obsessed with this pick. Might need to see a doctor Likewise. Super stoked about this ones potential for adding and unstoppable wrinkle to the offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I'm completely out-of-my-mind-over-this-pick excited. WOW. I'm calling offensive rookie of the year now. Related to Dalvin Cook but plays like Kamara. Somebody hose me down. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Dunno if it was mentioned here before, but Cook has a 27.8 BMI. that’s nuts. After listening to eisens interview and his FaceTime interview, it sounds like dude just smokes fatties all day. Nothing wrong with that…if you’re not a professional athlete. Some of the day, fine….but a 28 bmi is 👎🏻 Time to clean that up. While this could all be bad news…..it can also be great news. If we can get him into the best shape of his life, we might see a better version I'm sure the Bills did their due diligence on his character and work ethic. WTF is this with "BMI"? CDC: If an athlete or other person with a lot of muscle has a BMI over 25, is that person still considered to be overweight? According to the BMI weight status categories, anyone with a BMI between 25 and 29.9 would be classified as overweight and anyone with a BMI over 30 would be classified as having obesity. However, athletes may have a high BMI because of increased muscularity rather than increased body fatness. In general, a person who has a high BMI is likely to have body fatness and would be considered to be overweight or obese, but this may not apply to athletes. A trained healthcare provider should perform appropriate health assessments to evaluate an individual’s health status and risks. At a self-acknowledged 245 on the Pat McAfee show last season, Josh Allen has a BMI of 29. At his listed weight of 237, it would be 28.1. Such a Lummox! I thought squirrels and Jr High Girls understood that BMI is only useful as an indicator of obesity for people with a "normal" build, because all it does is correlate height to total weight - and if someone has a high muscle mass, they will have a high weight for their height and a high BMI even as they have a low body fat percentage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Like seriously, how many ways are there to get excited about this one? How about the fact he has hardly has any miles on him? Edit: I get that some will be disappointed he isn't a three down back but this kid looks like a potential star player to me with his versatility, explosion, and surprising polish for how little tape there is. Edited April 30, 2022 by VW82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Yeah looks like 28 bmi to me I mean, it could be, the point is that BMI just correlates height and weight, it tells you nothing about body composition and whether the weight is due to fat or to heavy lean muscle. 41 minutes ago, JustGiveItToEm said: Singletary is 31.8 so he is "obese." Look at that fat slob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 This may end up being one of my favorite Bills picks in a while. Cook is going to be an absolute monster in this Offense. His WR skills as a RB are incredible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I know nothing about him, but if he is such a weapon in the passing game, why did he have a whopping 27 catches for the entire season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 So anybody wanna give us a 4 for Moss and a 6? Anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, BTB said: I know nothing about him, but if he is such a weapon in the passing game, why did he have a whopping 27 catches for the entire season? Because he played for Georgia. They have a run-focused offense and lots of weapons / mouths to feed. It's probably fair to question his lackluster college career production and wonder how his body will hold up due to his size, or whether he has the work ethic to truly excel. But the tape doesn't lie, and the fact he has a superstar brother currently killing it with the Vikings doesn't hurt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: So anybody wanna give us a 4 for Moss and a 6? Anybody? If you were an NFL GM, would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, BTB said: If you were an NFL GM, would you? I dunno! Depends on need I guess. Maybe someone who liked Moss draft time, has a need, and doesn’t like what is left. Doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m obsessed with this pick. Might need to see a doctor Go look up his 82 yard TD catch against Alabama in 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Cook is someone who’d be a bad second round pick for most teams. Beane even said, “he can handle some carries too”. He’s obviously not a typical running back, or what a lot of teams need out of a second round RB pick. However, the added wrinkle he gives this particular offense could be huge. Cook has the potential to be a good second round value for this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Not trying to being a downer, but doesn't he go down rather easily for a RB drafted this high? After speed and pass-catching, he doesn't have anything on Devin Singletary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, BurpleBull said: Not trying to being a downer, but doesn't he go down rather easily for a RB drafted this high? After speed and pass-catching, he doesn't have anything on Devin Singletary. He's not a RB in the traditional sense. He's more of a RB/WR hybrid. He's going to be deadly on third downs and long yardage situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Not trying to being a downer, but doesn't he go down rather easily for a RB drafted this high? After speed and pass-catching, he doesn't have anything on Devin Singletary. He’s not supposed to be Devin. Two different types of RBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Not trying to being a downer, but doesn't he go down rather easily for a RB drafted this high? After speed and pass-catching, he doesn't have anything on Devin Singletary. They don't plan to use him as an RB much I assume. Probably a few toss sweeps or outside runs to the edge but mostly used as a weapon in the passing game where they can split him out wide and get an LB matched up on him... Probably envision using him similar to how Kamara is used in NO but with less runs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, VW82 said: Because he played for Georgia. They have a run-focused offense and lots of weapons / mouths to feed. It's probably fair to question his lackluster college career production and wonder how his body will hold up due to his size, or whether he has the work ethic to truly excel. But the tape doesn't lie, and the fact he has a superstar brother currently killing it with the Vikings doesn't hurt. Fair enough. 👍🏻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 11 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: like a fast lber next Well you got your wish lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 This dude just unlocks the offense. Good luck defending us at all levels now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Brandon said: Go look up his 82 yard TD catch against Alabama in 2020. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Looks just like Singletary... 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Note also that the guy he burned on that play was Christian Harris, who went about a dozen picks after Cook. Cook just ran right by him and actually had to slow up and wait on the ball. I'd also add that this play isn't a fluke, either. He had one just like it against Michigan in the Orange Bowl. Edited April 30, 2022 by Brandon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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