NewEra Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 The big plus for me with this pick is know we have more versatility with our play calling. We can play more man with him and Tre. With our improved pass rush, mixing in more press man could be killer. Looking forward to watching him matchup and get his hands on in the first 5 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: I am thinking this is unlikely to be true as the Bills have tried to bring in for Top 30 visits the people they are actually considering. Sauce and Stingley may have been higher on their board but since they were unlikely to get them it might not have made sense to bring them in. However, McDuffie was in the range and yet they elected to not bring him in. I suspect he was not a candidate for their first round pick. Similarity if Booth was removed from their list .. why did they bring him in for a top 30 visit if he was already blacklisted due to health issues I believe they brought him in to confirm health issues or clear him. The rumor is the Hernia was fine, but there were knee issues that got red flagged by several teams. I suspect you are absolutely correct on McDuffie if he was not a visit. Elam was one of the last visits - I think that was on purpose as he was their target. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Bruffalo said: Did you not see the run on WR? Any WR left would be a much bigger reach than Elam. You could easily trade up and get somebody in 2nd-3rd if you're that worried about it. You don’t understand. Scotty wanted a WR with the first pick, no matter what. NO Matter What! NO MATTER WHAT!!!! Doesn’t matter how many WR’s were picked up to this point, even if they didn’t have a first round grade or were not near the BPA on the Bills chart because Scotty wanted a WR! HARUMPHH!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: For people saying they don’t mind trading a 4th…..what? Why just give away any pick? You could have used that 4th to move up in the second round, there was no way that Dallas was going corner. Bean just got nervous and ***** up. I like Elam but that just made zero sense How do you figure it was only Dallas Beane had to worry about? Dallas could have wanted Elam themselves. Or Dallas could have traded their pick to someone else who wanted Elam. But more than that Beane also had to worry about the pick before Dallas. Baltimore was more willing to deal the 23rd pick and could have been fielding offers from multiple teams all looking to draft Elam. Saying the Bills only had to worry about who Dallas might pick is beyond ludicrous and makes zero sense. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I’ll take my chances with that and a fully healthy Josh Allen and playmakers…. Did you watch the Bills in the playoffs? White was out. 😂 You’re not effectively making the point that you think you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Magox said: You don’t understand. Scotty wanted a WR with the first pick, no matter what. NO Matter What! NO MATTER WHAT!!!! Doesn’t matter how many WR’s were picked up to this point, even if they didn’t have a first round grade or were not near the BPA on the Bills chart because Scotty wanted a WR! HARUMPHH!!! I guess there's an argument to be made for trading up and getting one of those WRs. The only guys I thought that would be worth it for the Bills would have been Chris Olave, Jameson Williams, or Garret Wilson and all of those guys were taken so early that you'd be giving up way too much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Looking at the Bills coaching staff with DB's reminds me a lot of what the Dodgers do with pitchers. If Zierlein's write up here is close to accurate, this is all fixable.. except maybe the run D/tackling- that'll be up to his teammates to correct and inspire. Sounds like a 2 year project who is going to get thrown into the fire day 1, whether he likes it or not: By Lance Zierlein NFL Analyst Draft Projection Round 1 NFL Comparison Jaylon Johnson Overview Elam is the next up in a long line of talented Florida cornerbacks, but he failed to play his best football in his final collegiate season. He is patient and strong to mirror and impede releases but inconsistent staying connected to the early stages of the route. He plays with good awareness in zone and has the twitch and length to make plays on the throw when squatting in space. He was beat on deep patterns against Alabama, Arkansas and Georgia, which might have led to excessive grabbing and an overall lack of trust in his technique on the 2021 tape. He plays big at the catch point but smaller in run support. Elam has early CB3 and eventual CB2 value as a press and zone corner. Strengths Desired size, length and strength for press man. Well-balanced with ability to crowd and stuff the release. Patient feet rarely fall for release fakes. Able to swivel hips and pursue with fluidity. Mirrors shifting routes with basketball agility. Rarely bites on the cheese against double moves. Allows receiver to close the cushion for him in Cover 3 and quarters coverage. Squeezes deep sideline routes with physicality. Contested catches are typically tilted in his favor. Solid transition quickness to plant and drive on the throw. Some improvement in his tackling on 2021 tape. Weaknesses Loses his leverage unnecessarily. Allows a little too much clearance early in the route. Needs better open-and-sprint timing when squatting underneath. Vertical specialists can overtake and stack him. Inconsistent digesting route combinations. Too much panic and grab in his 2021 tape. Can improve his eye balance between the man and the ball. Doesn't play to his size in run support duties. Inconsistent coming to balance as open-field tackler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Trading up anytime is ok except to jump a team that has no need for the position you want why just throw the pick away? No reason to do it whatsoever Do you not understand that it was possibly Baltimore the Bills were mainly concerned with and not Dallas. Baltimore was willing to deal and could have been actively taking offers from multiple teams interested in Elam. You don't just have to be concerned with Dallas. 3 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Because the team you jumped had no need for that position you could have waited three minutes and still have your 4th round pick seems pretty clear to me Baltimore was shopping the pick! How do you not understand this? It's not Dallas you had to be concerned with, it's the other 30 teams in the league. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Elam should fit in nicely. He has two relatives who played in the NFL so he knows the score. My only concerns are that he missed three games last season because of a knee injury and that his play was a bit inconsistent. Why come out after a junior season like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 How can you not be excited about this kid? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Far from BPA. Time will tell but for me it's meh, especially if Johnson, Booth and Lloyd become All Pro. BPA is a MYTH until later rounds... how many times i been telling you guys that.. BPAAN Best Player Available At Need. Period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 The one thing that sticks out to me from watching all his videos is his complete confidence and comfort in playing press man to man coverage against top end talent such as a Jameson Williams. You really have to have the confidence and physical ability to do that. Most collegiate players would be scared shitless but not Elam. He looks at ease and it’s because of his long frame, fluid hips, speed and mental toughness. Also, I have read a couple people characterize him as “soft”, he’s not and he is a very willing tackler just that he lacks technique. I am sure that the Bills will coach him up and that will get fixed. He is going to provide the Bills so much flexibility in being able to play more press coverage than in years past, and now with all the WR’s coming into the division and conference the Bills have to be able to better matchup against these weapons. My hopes are that the Bills select a WR and RB with their next two picks. We have to keep getting offensive playmakers and there are still 3-4 RB’s and around 10 WR’s that can offer an immediate impact to the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I know @GunnerBill did, definitely want your take on Booth sliding, Gunny. The thing none of us amateurs have access to is the medicals. With Booth I was incredulous that he would slide when the issue was simply a double hernia. I have had both hernias repaired during my soccer career. That is simply not a long term issue. The last week there have been more significant reports about his knee and potentially his neck and for a player of his talent to fall out of round 1 must mean the medicals prognosis is bad. He will still be worth the gamble to someone at some stage. I think back to the likes of Myles Jack and Jaylon Smith where that was early day 2. Maybe it is later. But I don't think to @HurlyBurly51's point anyone was saying "screw the medicals, pick him regardless." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Is it weird to say that Elam's play reminds me of Leodis McKelvin..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 A few of these comments feel like “wrong Josh” and I’m here for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: BPA is a MYTH until later rounds... how many times i been telling you guys that.. BPAAN Best Player Available At Need. Period. Not for everyone. I agree most teams view it that way or a version thereof. But the Ravens have paid Chuck Clark, just paid Marcus Williams as a FA but let the board fall to them and took the Best Player Available - a safety. Baltimore are a BPA team. 6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Is it weird to say that Elam's play reminds me of Leodis McKelvin..... Nope. I can totally understand what you mean. And before people see that as a big negative Leodis was a very talented player who could just never quite put it all together. His career with McDermott and Frazier might have gone differently. Edited April 29, 2022 by GunnerBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, Rigotz said: A few of these comments feel like “wrong Josh” and I’m here for it The immediate reaction was so negative, I was legitimately surprised by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1ManRaid Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 6 hours ago, drab08 said: Just don't like the analysis I've heard that he doesn't like to tackle. The analysis said Josh Allen would never be accurate. Elam can be taught to be a more aggressive tackler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 we only moved up 2 spots and cost a 4th round pick. Relax, not a big deal. He wanted this guy and got him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 6 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Far from BPA. Time will tell but for me it's meh, especially if Johnson, Booth and Lloyd become All Pro. And if Elam becomes All Pro? What if, what if, what if... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Old Coot said: Elam should fit in nicely. He has two relatives who played in the NFL so he knows the score. My only concerns are that he missed three games last season because of a knee injury and that his play was a bit inconsistent. Why come out after a junior season like that? Why not...seemed to work out ok. He was picked in 1st round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I feel the same abiut this pick as I did the tre white pick. Just kinda...ok cool. I trust beane. If he picked him at 23, he's an impact player and I expect it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: And if Elam becomes All Pro? What if, what if, what if... If Elam plays his part in us winning a Super Bowl or two but doesn't make All Pro it really doesn't matter. Nor will it matter if the other CBs the Bills didn't pick make All-Pro either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Can’t complain. Position of need, played very well in the SEC. Wouldn’t have been my first choice cuz of his seeming unwillingness to tackle, maybe that was due to injury. Either way, Bills have their number 2 corner and will likely trade picks to move back into the 4th anyways. Excited to see how the rest of the draft plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 7 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Far from BPA. Time will tell but for me it's meh, especially if Johnson, Booth and Lloyd become All Pro. You don't even know what you're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Kaiir Elam*, CB, Florida Height: 6-2. Weight: 196. Arm: 30.88. Hand: 8.88. Tall and fast, so far so good . Beane never disappoints Official 40 Time: 4.39. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: The analysis said Josh Allen would never be accurate. Elam can be taught to be a more aggressive tackler. He looks like Antoine Winfield Sr when compared to Levi Wallace as a tackler😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 The only reason all of the negativity is being put out there by some of the bobblehead types is because of CJ Henderson. Florida guy, similar size, similar athletic profile, who busted in Jacksonville. Elam's coverage stats are better than Henderson were and the way they carry themselves is completely different. Elam also isn't afraid to tackle per say, he just needs to be coached up on his technique. Tre's knock was about his tackling as well. This kid is in the perfect culture, will be facing Diggs/Davis/Crowder/McKenzie every day in practice, and has White/Poyer/Hyde/Taron to learn from. If you all don't think he'll end up better than Levi Wallace, then you are sadly mistaken. Athletically, he is coming to the table with more than Wallace ever had and he WANTS to be great. This will be a good pick for us. Wait and see. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just watched the draft, goddam ass end of the world timezone. When Yolo blows multiple virtual loads over a guy - you know we have our guy! 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I’m pretty confident Elam can at least play as good as Levi did last year, with superior performance in the years to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 To me the big news is Tre White able to start week 1. If we have someone who maybe isn't the best tackler but has amazing speed and tracking as a #2 CB in zone coverage then I am over the moon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 WTF. Why do people think he traded up for giggles? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, ALF said: Kaiir Elam*, CB, Florida Height: 6-2. Weight: 196. Arm: 30.88. Hand: 8.88. Tall and fast, so far so good . Beane never disappoints Official 40 Time: 4.39. Everything I read and watch shows he has great instincts. He is a well rounded athlete and played WR in high school. He also cracked the books at UF. I will admit I hadn’t done a ton of research on him till a few days ago and then post pick last night. Sounds like a great fit for the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 7 hours ago, HappyDays said: Reminiscent of Stephon Gilmore's draft day reaction 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 8 hours ago, mannc said: So? all the glitz and glitter cut off the post pic info on Elam no pics from green room or home. was there the QR scan to get details on him? it was like the production team took a break as soon as the trade happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motor26 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Although I am a bit skeptical on his tackling ability, he appears to have great coverage skills, and I think will thrive in McDermott’s zone scheme. Bring on the rest of the draft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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