RD 1, Pick 23: CB Kaiir Elam, Florida

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Still makes zero sense to throw away a pick no matter how you try to rationalize it 

 

Just because it doesn't make sense to you, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.

[Logic]

Just now, RichRiderBills said:

 

Elam ain't White. Not by a country mile. 

Can I borrow your crystal ball when you're done with it?

[Westside Madness]

19 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

will we actually press WR’s now??   I hope so.  

Depends on the play call, but hmm, press well and cant/wont tackle...sounds a lot like another BUF/NE CB...

[Kingston Bills Fan]

Just now, bahamasbills said:

How it is zero sense to secure a player at need that you would love to have on your team.  You are basically saying am I willing to lose this player over a 4th?  Beane knew he needed this player and made it happen.  Its pretty simple.

Because the team you jumped had no need for that position you could have waited three minutes and still have your 4th round pick seems pretty clear to me

[LEBills]

Belichick’s dog drafting again?

[Perry Turtle]

3 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Still makes zero sense to throw away a puck no matter how you try to rationalize it 

Throwing away a puck anywhere but a hockey game does make no sense.

[NoSaint]

1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Elam ain't White. Not by a country mile. 

Neither was tre when we picked him but I simply meant our next CB1 when tres contract runs it’s course. These years pick is the natural replacement 

[CapeBreton]

Sucks to lose the 4th but if it guarantees you get the last player you have a first round grade on, you do it. 
 

gotta love getting a fast, long, athletic, young CB, plugs a huge need, love the pick.

[BruceSlayne]

Almost seems like a panic pick after the Chiefs got McDuffie. But what the hell do I know... TRUST THE PROCESS!!!

[Mr. WEO]

39 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I would not have traded up for him but one thing I know for sure is that if we took him it's because his football character is pristine. I said before the draft I will NEVER doubt the Bills when they pick a CB as long as McDermott is in charge.

 

39 minutes ago, mannc said:

I don’t love it but I’m not going to second-guess McDermott on a CB…I do not understand the trade up though.

 

38 minutes ago, Aaronthebaron said:

I really wanted Andrew Booth Jr, had a great feeling about him. I’ll trust McDermott knows CB’s better than me, though, it’s kind of his thing.

 

yet Siran Neal, Taran Johnson, Jaquon Johnson, Dane Jackson and Rachad Wildgoose are why the Bills just traded up in a reach for this kid in the 1st.....

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

Love that we upgraded the secondary,6’1” corner who ran 4.39, how can anyone hate that? They must have had first hand knowledge of some interest from other teams, giving up a 4th to get your guy is never a bad thing. If Tre isn’t able to go this guy is going to be a great insurance policy imo.

[Westside Madness]

17 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

You are not counting Diggs

Shhh, you might hurt his narrative...

[bahamasbills]

1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Elam ain't White. Not by a country mile. 

So when we drafted White you knew he would become a top 5 CB?  Wow Bills should look you up.

[Fan in Chicago]

1 minute ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Trading up anytime is ok except to jump a team that has no need for the position you want why just throw the pick away? No reason to do it whatsoever

Do you have any substantial point to make besides moaning about a4th round pick on a stacked roster?

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Elam ain't White. Not by a country mile. 

Tre played mainly press man in college too, how can you possibly say that with such authority?

[CoudyBills]

6 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ok. Then Why did basically everyone have him as a top 10-15 selection?

Why didn't he go there in that case?

[Jumpsuit Jim]

My adjusted draft philosophy:

 

BPA and Trading Back are for rebuilds. For loaded contenders (like the Bills), spend as many later round draft picks required to move up and get three guys to fill out our team. Camp fodder, competition, whatever…they can all be found on the waver wire just as easily as in the later rounds (probably better players, too). 

[NoSaint]

Just now, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Because the team you jumped had no need for that position you could have waited three minutes and still have your 4th round pick seems pretty clear to me

Dallas may have taken him. Also several other teams tied to him who may have been trying to move up

[Alphadawg7]

People need to let the trade of the 4th pick go...geezus, they went and got their guy.  They know CB"s, so just be excited for the pick.  Who cares about the 4th if it got us another shut down corner to play opposite Tre for the next 4 to 5 years.

[Ya Digg?]

2 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Elam ain't White. Not by a country mile. 

White wasn’t White when he got drafted either…what’s your point?

[BillsVet]

20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

LOL.

 

KC’s back up WR are Josh Gordon, Justin Watson and Cornell Powell.  Are you kidding me?  Those 3 had a total of 12 catches last year.   
 

You just get your panties in a wad everything McDermott.  Grow up my god.
 

 

I guess you missed my point about have an elite TE to pair with their post-Hill WR group.  And I'll trust Andy Reid to staff an offense before McD.  If they thought Hill was expendable, then JuJu, Hardman, and Valdes-Scantling should be more than sufficient.  But you left those 3 out of your post.  Not surprised. 

 

McD is going defense heavy from the line to the secondary almost every off-season.  Other emerging AFC contenders are loading up on offense and improving/maintaining their pass rush.  

 

 

[bahamasbills]

Just now, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Because the team you jumped had no need for that position you could have waited three minutes and still have your 4th round pick seems pretty clear to me

So how could you be certain that another team didnt trade up with Dallas.  Bottom line is he was sold on this player and didnt want to lose him.  He valued the player over potentially losing him over a 4th rd pick.

[MAJBobby]

11 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

The NFL is now like an arms race, whoever has the most nukes wins. Your WR’s are your nukes, CB’s Iin the playoffs even the good ones couldn’t stop sheet. We definitely dropped the ball on Skyy Moore. 

And CBs are your Missile Defense Systems like Thaads and Patriots in this analogy Sooooo

Edited April 29, 2022 by MAJBobby

[Jumpsuit Jim]

1 minute ago, CoudyBills said:

Why didn't he go there in that case?

Because teams were busy picking…interior o-line?

 

such a strange draft. 
 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, CoudyBills said:

Why didn't he go there in that case?

Ya that's what I'm asking.

 

some people projected him at 4 up to this draft.

 

Ok character issues.

 

But DJ and most people had him as a top 10 player and at a premium position.

 

DJ obviously knows more than me and everyone on this board.

[CoudyBills]

6 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

For a super bowl contender it does make sense no matter how you try to rationalize it. No guarantees 4th rd pick even makes team.

Likely the 4th rounder gets poached if he can't crack the lineup.

[78thealltimegreat]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

So just want to point one thing out

 

Beane seems to like to do these "1 year deals" when it comes to vets.  Do you really believe we wont have a TE under a long term contract next year.....a offensive guard?

 

Corner is a premium position.....our start corner is coming back from a  major injury.   We still have some picks left.

Beane is using the Aaron Rogers Green Bay model with Josh not so sure it’s the best idea. If they don’t win a Super Bowl in the next 3 years it wasn’t but if they do it was. 

[Mr. Wonderful]

It's the smart move.  Still haven't erased images of Tyreek Hill scorching the Bills secondary and Jordan Poyer gasping for breath for the past two years.  The Bills WILL need solid CB play if they want to reach the AFC Championship Game again and perhaps beyond.  Hope the kid can play.  

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

But are his arms over 30"???

[HurlyBurly51]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

yet Siran Neal, Taran Johnson, Jaquon Johnson, Dane Jackson and Rachad Wildgoose are why the Bills just traded up in a reach for this kid in the 1st.....

yeah, he wasn't a reach

[Westside Madness]

18 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

It’s interesting Beane didn’t have a first round grade on Jermaine Johnson, Booth, or Lloyd. I’m also surprised he’d admit that. Let’s hope his grading system proves correct this time, some of his early picks in years past have left a lot to be desired.

Which picks?

[DuckyBoys]

getting a 1st rounder that has a 1st round grade is more important than a 4th shot in the dark  Be different if the roster had holes everywhere  Look at the history in the 4th round by the Bills  Gabe Davis and Andre Reed are anomalies  More likely we get another Marcus Easley or Mark Pike  Hope they move up tomorrow if they see a player they think can come in compete day 1  No more long term projects till late in the draft

[Einstein]

The first time i’ve scratched my head at a Beane pick.

[RocCityRoller]

4 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Because the team you jumped had no need for that position you could have waited three minutes and still have your 4th round pick seems pretty clear to me

 

Do you know no other team was trying to move to 23 or 24 for a CB?

 

Seems to be a trade bonanza going on tonight.

Edited April 29, 2022 by RocCityRoller

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Because the team you jumped had no need for that position you could have waited three minutes and still have your 4th round pick seems pretty clear to me

 

He's not worried about Dallas, he's worried about the other team looking to trade up to Dallas' pick to get the last blue chip corner in the draft when teh Bills desperately needed one.

The 4th rounder may have served a better purpose than it would have as a pick on this roster.

[Logic]

SECOND IN THE ENTIRE FBS IN PASSER RATING ALLOWED. SECOND.

College production + speed and size + elite work ethic + he's only 20.

Pretty good, Beane. Pretty, pretty, prreeeettttttty good.

[Meatloaf63]

44 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Pick is fine, necessary. Albeit anti-climactic. 
 

But why in the world toss away a 4th?! Awful. Thought it was gonna be Jermaine Johnson.

Why do we need a linebacker who can’t rush the Qb when we don’t have a CB2 and our CB1 is injured?

[MAJBobby]

12 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

For people saying they don’t mind trading a 4th…..what? Why just give away any pick? You could have used that 4th to move up in the second round, there was no way that Dallas was going corner. Bean just got nervous and ***** up. I like Elam but that just made zero sense

Why hold a pick to move up in the second round for lesser talents and not move up in the first for better talent. That post makes Zero Sense. 

[Governor]

34 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

Doesn’t preclude someone from jumping the Bills and taking the guy they wanted anyway.

By that logic we should’ve traded all the way to #2 to secure a CB.

[DCofNC]

39 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

The cowboys had zero interest in corner we burned a pick for a guy they could have had at 25 anyway just dumb 

You don’t know who might have chosen to move up to 23 to take him or move w Dallas to get him.  It’s not about the next team it’s about ALL the others.