SoCal Deek Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Here's another one of Tottenham from the outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Here's another one of Tottenham from the outside. The new stadium in OP will be great. Once the renderings come, the board can crap all over it for 3 years because internet, but when they raise the 3 SB banners before the home opener in 2026, it will be packed. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManCrushPassRush Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Looks like the Pegula's might have a tiny bit of interest in preserving the lower bowl of the stadium. Wouldn't put money on it though. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/what-will-happen-to-highmark-stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Schopp has spent two segments pissed off about the stadium deal. He started off the show with, "How long do we need to talk about this today?" He was more interested in talking about (partially tongue in cheek) the Bills need for a safety in the first round. He hates all of the money put on the taxpayers and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Undoubtably you mean RIT? Rotate in Tightly.......81-85 was my sentence. That walk on the quarter-mile was absolute brutality in the winter. I understand that's it's now mostly shielded by buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stads said: Schopp has spent two segments pissed off about the stadium deal. He started off the show with, "How long do we need to talk about this today?" He was more interested in talking about (partially tongue in cheek) the Bills need for a safety in the first round. He hates all of the money put on the taxpayers and so on Anything that pisses Schopp off is good in my book! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, John Adams said: The new stadium in OP will be great. Once the renderings come, the board can crap all over it for 3 years because internet, but when they raise the 3 SB banners before the home opener in 2026, it will be packed. Tottenham was an engineering marvel. It was built on the small urban site of the old White Hart Stadium (picture the Rockpile)....so they chose to build the new stadium in two halves. They built one half of the oval while still playing in the existing stadium, then tore down the old stadium, and completed the other half of the new one. Amazing. It was all intended to save relocation time for the team , but later on troubles in construction ended up with the Hotspurs being away from home for an entire season longer than they were supposed to. The best of plans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. Now do that same add-on-neighboring-cities thing with every other NFL market. Buffalo is still near the bottom. Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Construction costs are outrageous now. Can’t go by a raw cost. Needs to go by a some ratio. Should have done this 6 or 7 years ago. Would have saved hundreds of millions. The problem was that 6-7 years ago there wasn't an engineering study that said the stadium was feasibly beyond repair. Once a safety issue was introduced it was a much easier sell than in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Im pretty hyped, it was bound to happen eventually so why not during the josh allen era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, H2o said: Josh Allen is Buffalo's true savior. Without Allen and a winning franchise it makes this deal a lot less likely imo. Yeah, when the new stadium in Indy was constructed they called it The House That Peyton Built. Maybe true here with Josh, certainly a huge influence. Wow. This is so strange. How many years have we been hearing the "Bills need a new stadium" talk? And now here we are. I'd started to believe it would happen and assumed it was just something we talk about every year, like Tom Brady retiring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Stads said: Schopp has spent two segments pissed off about the stadium deal. He started off the show with, "How long do we need to talk about this today?" He was more interested in talking about (partially tongue in cheek) the Bills need for a safety in the first round. He hates all of the money put on the taxpayers and so on I've been searching for audio from when he went nuts about all the public money spent downstate on the Nets, Mets, Islanders, Yankees, and Rangers/Knicks deals. How could any Bills fan be unhappy? Your taxes paid aren't going to change either way. We just get to keep our team here. We pay for tons of things that we don't even know/care about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Erm, have the jokes from opposing teams started about us not needing a trophy cabinet built into the blueprints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Today is a great day to be a Buffalonian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Today is a great day to be a Buffalonian The whole offseason so far has been great. Resigned a lot of our players. Got stronger at the LOS on both sides of the ball. Got a game changer on defense in Miller to improve the pass rush. Now we have a new stadium which keeps the Bills in WNY for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Jester said: When did you get them? I got mine through a friend last year as I was "out of the area". I just renew every year. Have not lived in NYS since 2000. But was grandfathered in the out of area stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingant Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Hopefully it's designed to keep the crowd noise in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Big win for the Bills, Pegulas and WNY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 When they open the new stadium, they better have a skydiver land on a folding table on the 50-yard line. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, wiseman3 said: I'd bet that the final product will be pretty similar to this...Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. If so, very cool. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x48761e98d5d88ec3%3A0x572dd66a0e5f79bf!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV%3Dw213-h160-k-no!5sTottenham Hotspur Stadium - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB2pn-0en2AhUNU98KHQ7WBgkQoip6BAg5EAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 5 hours ago, jletha said: Gee, it sure looks a lot like the old stadium....guess $1.4B doesn't buy much these days..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Is this the greatest offseason in franchise history? (Offseason only - forgetting what immediately preceded it, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, John Adams said: With, I expect, Buffalo touches, whatever that will mean and I bet it means something. the concession stand and merch shop will accept Green Stamps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I havent gone through the entire thread to see if someone did the math, but in case no one has... The Cost for Erie County residents to keep the Bills in Buffalo: $250,000,000 / roughly 650,000 tax payers = $384.62 each Over 30 years, that is $12.82/year/taxpayer to keep the Bills and lock them in. I'd happily pay it. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huh? What? Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I made a bad comment back in January and was rightly reminded and spanked because of the comment I made... This seems to be a fair deal for all... Lost in the conversation was I thought besides new stadium monies...upgrades at Key Bank Center would part of the overall package... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: took that long cause it was a domed stadium does not matter if its above ground or not.. your still building from the ground up. Lol - It does matter. Easier to do concrete forms in an excavation versus building steel frame and having to do steel superstructure then forms for seating etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I havent gone through the entire thread to see if someone did the math, but in case no one has... The Cost for Erie County residents to keep the Bills in Buffalo: $250,000,000 / roughly 650,000 tax payers = $384.62 each Over 30 years, that is $12.82/year/taxpayer to keep the Bills and lock them in. I'd happily pay it. Not the way to look at it. Erie County's portion will be repaid entirely by stadium-related ticket, parking and related taxes. That is, only the fans who go to the games will pay those taxes. https://www2.erie.gov/exec/index.php?q=press/poloncarz-details-erie-county-investment-new-buffalo-bills-agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Shake_My_Head said: Not the way to look at it. Erie County's portion will be repaid entirely by stadium-related ticket, parking and related taxes. That is, only the fans who go to the games will pay those taxes. https://www2.erie.gov/exec/index.php?q=press/poloncarz-details-erie-county-investment-new-buffalo-bills-agreement Even better. My point then is, even worst case, folks are only paying >$13/year. Or just over $1/month. A trivial pittance when it means being able to keep our beloved team. I'm just offering other perspectives because so many people online are overreacting to that "$850M" quoted number. And they feel like it's going to put them in the poor house. When in reality, folks wont even notice. Edited March 28, 2022 by DrDawkinstein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: the concession stand and merch shop will accept Green Stamps. Preferred parking for anyone driving a 1988 Buick Regal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: I've been searching for audio from when he went nuts about all the public money spent downstate on the Nets, Mets, Islanders, Yankees, and Rangers/Knicks deals. How could any Bills fan be unhappy? Your taxes paid aren't going to change either way. We just get to keep our team here. We pay for tons of things that we don't even know/care about. He's not a fan unless there is a fantasy angle he can exploit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Lucas Oil cost $720M. How can they spend $1.4B and not have a domed stadium that can be used year round? This is a horrible deal for taxpayers. Inflation and that was quite a while ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: When in reality, folks wont even notice. That's not a heavy lift. The majorty of the population is lucky if they can chew gum and walk at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Shake_My_Head said: If so, very cool. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x48761e98d5d88ec3%3A0x572dd66a0e5f79bf!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV%3Dw213-h160-k-no!5sTottenham Hotspur Stadium - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB2pn-0en2AhUNU98KHQ7WBgkQoip6BAg5EAM OK. Very cool. ONLY.. if that's an NFL dimensioned infield. If they build Highmark 2 with a soccer dimensioned infield, count me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huh? What? Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Here's the meta question for all you Jetsons'... come 2056... which one of you are going to genetically engineer a kid who is willing to spend $1.4 trillion to buy and keep the Bills in Buffalo... taking into consideration that Spacely Sprockets which use to own the air rights in OP was obtained by robotic Jerry Jones and his wife Rosie... forward thinking... just saying... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Construction costs are outrageous now. Can’t go by a raw cost. Needs to go by a some ratio. Should have done this 6 or 7 years ago. Would have saved hundreds of millions. Well if you want to go by "ratio", it's an even worse deal for the NY taxpayers. The second most expensive public deal was the LV Raiders just opened stadium, where the public kicked in 750 and the Raiders put up 1.1 BILLION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 hours ago, jletha said: Too bad it's not a dome!!☹ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) $850 million is a lot of money, but NY State would be like the 10th largest economy in the world if it were its own country. Edited March 28, 2022 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I’m in shock! This is awesome!!! This is very ironic because people here said that they would never get one and to stop talking about it! Some people got upset. Well it’s happening!!! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, sonyab1974 said: I’m in shock! This is awesome!!! This is very ironic because people here said that they would never get one and to stop talking about it! Some people got upset. Well it’s happening!!! 😁 So you're saying we can get back to the re-sign Edmunds debate? Sweet! Any thoughts there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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