Shake_My_Head Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We are getting really low on whipping boys. Bease and Star gone. Knox improved. It’s down to edmunds and ford catching all the hands. No worries. It's TSW superpower to find someone to tar and feather. That won't be ANY problem going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We are getting really low on whipping boys. Bease and Star gone. Knox improved. It’s down to edmunds and ford catching all the hands. I’ll always have McD 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, H2o said: I'd imagine we know which one it will be. Depends if they want the immediate 1.5 now or wait until June for the 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Best part about this is not having to listen to the same posters on here dramatically whine about him to no end over and over again. Like Groundhog Day around here with some of these people. I never had a problem with Star, but I felt McDermott had him as the centerpiece of his defense and when Star didn’t play or played hurt, it impacted the play of the front 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I’ll always have McD If you enjoy looking silly 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Waiting to see. I would expect the Post June 1 designation I would expect "Pre". I think the Bills have been kicking enough cans down the road; bear in mind they roll $2.6M cap hit into next season with the post-June 1, and they don't get cap space to work with now if they designate him "Post". But we'll see. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: That’s honestly the hallmark of a mediocre player. Only the lunatic fringe ***** about Josh or Diggs, if half the board hates you, you probably aren’t good. Or half the board doesn’t understand his role. Like half the board hates Edmunds because they don’t understand what they truly hate is how we use him. There are areas he can get better but he isn’t remotely close to as bad as half the board thinks he is. So that not a good barometer because I can’t tell you more than half the board is wrong about most things as with any fan base. #WrongJosh Edited March 18, 2022 by Alphadawg7 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I wonder if they’ll eat it all this year if they can’t get another FA they really like to fit them. I wonder when they actually have to designate tbh e June 1st “tag” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: Depends if they want the immediate 1.5 now or wait until June for the 4 Pretty sure they can navigate the cap and designate it a post June 1 cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) when it comes to whipping posts, someone will rise up and meat the need Star never lived up to the contract he received. He barely showed up 1/2 the time IMO. The last straw was taking a year off for covid concerns, then not getting vaccinated and missing games due to covid Edited March 18, 2022 by ddaryl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Jerry Jabber said: I never had a problem with Star, but I felt McDermott had him as the centerpiece of his defense and when Star didn’t play or played hurt, it impacted the play of the front 7. I agree with that last completely. When you count on a guy and build a roster expecting him to be there, it's an impact when he bails. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Don't love it. What we will complain about? refs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: I wonder if they’ll eat it all this year if they can’t get another FA they really like to fit them. I wonder when they actually have to designate tbh e June 1st “tag” At the point where the paperwork for the cut is filed with the NFL, is my understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: I never had a problem with Star, but I felt McDermott had him as the centerpiece of his defense and when Star didn’t play or played hurt, it impacted the play of the front 7. We missed him when he opted out, but then it never really felt like he came back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Or half the board doesn’t understand his role. Like half the board hates Edmunds because they don’t understand what they truly hate is how we use him. There are areas he can get better but he isn’t remotely close to as bad as half the board thinks he is. So that not a good barometer because I can’t tell you more than half the board is wrong about most things as with any fan base. #WrongJosh Wrong Josh was before they played though. Go down the list of folks the board crapped on that played for the Bills for 3-4 years? Kelsay, Spiller, Whitner, Duke Williams, Fitz etc etc. List goes on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I have full faith people will find something to whine about. Where is todays poll? 4 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I’ll always have McD I hear players wanna come to Buffalo cause of the ***** coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: when it comes to whipping posts, someone will rise up and meat the need yuk yuk "rise up" and "meat", I see what you did there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Farewell Star Lotulelei, and we thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I don't really understand the nuance of why, but I had heard we'd recoup something like $6.5M had we traded him. I think it's interesting that we didn't sell him to a team with a ton of cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I would expect "Pre". I think the Bills have been kicking enough cans down the road; bear in mind they roll $2.6M cap hit into next season with the post-June 1, and they don't get cap space to work with now if they designate him "Post". But we'll see. I don’t understand what any of this means can someone explain it to me like I’m twelve? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: I never had a problem with Star, but I felt McDermott had him as the centerpiece of his defense and when Star didn’t play or played hurt, it impacted the play of the front 7. Agreed, but Stars first game he missed as a Bill was week 1 this year. And they he missed a few with COVID. So like I said, had he not taken a year off his value here would have been seen more favorably because Star didn’t really miss games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 No surprise. Maybe the timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: yuk yuk "rise up" and "meat", I see what you did there LOL, "meat" was totally unintentional.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Crap!! i was hoping he would have retired instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Had to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Official from the Bills https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-release-defensive-tackle-star-lotulelei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Just announced Time for me to take my victory lap. I knew that Star was gone after Beane and McDermott stopped making excuses for him as they had in the past. This was by far the worst contract Beane has ever written as GM of the Bills and the latest line of mistakes of the Carolina Connection. The Bills had a gaping need at DT and Beane and McDermott put too much faith in their former player. At best, Star was an average DT, at his worst the return on his deal might have been the lowest at his position. I’m glad to see the Bills get out of a very bad deal and turn the page. Edited March 18, 2022 by JohnNord 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: If you enjoy looking silly 13 seconds... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Star was playing really well before getting covid last year. It's too bad. I get the sense that he stopped caring about football some time in the last couple years and a player like that will never stick around as long as McDermott is in charge. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Wrong Josh was before they played though. Go down the list of folks the board crapped on that played for the Bills for 3-4 years? Kelsay, Spiller, Whitner, Duke Williams, Fitz etc etc. List goes on and on. Uggg remember when they extended Kelsey?!?!?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We are getting really low on whipping boys. Bease and Star gone. Knox improved. It’s down to edmunds and ford catching all the hands. There's always Matt Haack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Like half the board hates Edmunds because they don’t understand what they truly hate is how we use him. What about the other half that hates him because he processes the game slowly, plays soft, can't shed blocks, can't cover, isn't an effective pass rusher and can't come up with a play when all the chips are down? On the other hand, he is only [insert current age here], and he's super athletic, so... 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Official from the Bills https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-release-defensive-tackle-star-lotulelei Good riddance…opportunity cost was huge with this bad deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 End of an era! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba2018 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 He sucked, yes I understand he plugged holes for the run defense but in todays NFL you need big time playmakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Not a June 1st designation 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, chris heff said: I don’t understand what any of this means can someone explain it to me like I’m twelve? If they do a post June 1st cut designation, the cap relief $4.1M isn't available until June 1st. If they cut him now they get $1.5 M in cap space to use right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: 13 seconds... and.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Gambit said: I think you forgot one. Our holder for FGs. Problem is, he's good at that job. It's his side gig that he sucks at. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Big Turk said: Not a June 1st designation it does make sense, otherwise we don't save anything until after FA and the draft. It'd be nice to have more space but it's probably nicer to have some while there are still player to go after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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