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Baker Mayfield says goodbye to Cleveland (update - Traded to Panthers)


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On 7/7/2022 at 2:18 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

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Goofus lines his pockets with extra money from insurance company endorsements.  Gallant participated in fundraising efforts for a children's hospital.

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To be fair, Mayfield did plenty of charity work as well. He raised tons of money, especially for Providence House in Cleveland.  

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5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

To be fair to Darnold and the list, the Jets worked pretty hard at ruining the guy.

 

Darnold is the same guy he was in college.  He doesn't have the brain for the game.

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I like what the panthers are doing. Just keep kicking the tires on qbs until you find one. Baker will never be a top 10 qb but the hate has gone too far on him. Carolina is a sneaky playoff team. 

Obviously, you haven’t heard the latest. Many reports out of Cleveland now state he was detested there. Selfish, arrogant, undisciplined and immature. Characteristics every NFL fan knows. Think about it, this woebegone franchise selected him #1 overall, but after just his 2nd season, they were done with him and would never pay him a 2nd contract. It’s seems evident they had no problem rubbing it in his face with the Watson trade. 
My take; He’ll be out of the League in 3 years. 

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Interesting to see how, heading into year 5, the media is still talking more about Mayfield and Darnold than they are Allen. Neither has been given a chance, both have been in terrible organizations and systems, yadda yadda yadda.

 

Neither were part of the solution in their particular organizations, but rather have been victims of their situations. In contrast, Allen owns his situations and takes responsibility for it.

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34 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Interesting to see how, heading into year 5, the media is still talking more about Mayfield and Darnold than they are Allen. Neither has been given a chance, both have been in terrible organizations and systems, yadda yadda yadda.

 

Neither were part of the solution in their particular organizations, but rather have been victims of their situations. In contrast, Allen owns his situations and takes responsibility for it.

Idk, EVERY QB discussion I’ve heard begins with Allen🤷‍♂️

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10 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Idk, EVERY QB discussion I’ve heard begins with Allen🤷‍♂️

 

Agreed. That was a terrible take, IMO. But I can understand if it she/he's talking about what's being discussed very recently. Mayfield was just traded to a team that Darnold is already on. This is actually sports news. At the moment, there is no drama surrounding Josh. So one should expect more stories about Mayfield and Darnold at this moment in time at least.

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2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Obviously, you haven’t heard the latest. Many reports out of Cleveland now state he was detested there. Selfish, arrogant, undisciplined and immature. Characteristics every NFL fan knows. Think about it, this woebegone franchise selected him #1 overall, but after just his 2nd season, they were done with him and would never pay him a 2nd contract. It’s seems evident they had no problem rubbing it in his face with the Watson trade. 
My take; He’ll be out of the League in 3 years. 

Oh wow. I hated him at Oklahoma but I thought he matured a bit. I guess not. 
 

I think the underrated thing about Allen is how much of a great guy and teammate he is. 

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20 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

not a bad list by Mcadoo. He was pretty close. I’d put baker at #3 and Rosen last but otherwise I’d say he was right on.

Maybe McAdoo is a better scout than a coach.  Not many had the top 2 guys in the right order,  Unfortunately for him he now has to coach 2 guys he never wanted on his team.  

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6 hours ago, The Dean said:

 

Agreed. That was a terrible take, IMO. But I can understand if it she/he's talking about what's being discussed very recently. Mayfield was just traded to a team that Darnold is already on. This is actually sports news. At the moment, there is no drama surrounding Josh. So one should expect more stories about Mayfield and Darnold at this moment in time at least.

Very recently and snarky :) 

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18 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Obviously, you haven’t heard the latest. Many reports out of Cleveland now state he was detested there. Selfish, arrogant, undisciplined and immature. 

Well, they are unlikely to be saying nice things about him are they? The worse they make him sound, the less stupid they sound in trading for Watson.

 

I would definitely take Mayfield over Darnold - he is not a franchise QB but I think he is better than many on here seem to think.

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22 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I like what the panthers are doing. Just keep kicking the tires on qbs until you find one. Baker will never be a top 10 qb but the hate has gone too far on him. Carolina is a sneaky playoff team. 

They're doing what the drought era bills did at first. Which didn't work.

 

Rob Johnson doug flutie (Mayfield and Darnold).

 

Next you try and sign a aging qb that is actually good once your done dumpster diving. But he's old or maybe you get 2 years of time.

 

You eventually (if you want sustained success) need to draft one and get lucky.

 

As a fan it's depressing and miserable because their is no hope for a high ceiling with these guys and you can see your doomed to mediocrity.

 

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15 hours ago, Gunvald's Husse said:

Well, they are unlikely to be saying nice things about him are they? The worse they make him sound, the less stupid they sound in trading for Watson.

 

 

Well, there were some stories even before they got Watson, for example, the mess with OBJ, and the adult in the room comment.  Duke Johnson also doesn't seem to think much of Baker.   

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On 7/11/2022 at 10:58 AM, Chandler#81 said:

Obviously, you haven’t heard the latest. Many reports out of Cleveland now state he was detested there. Selfish, arrogant, undisciplined and immature. Characteristics every NFL fan knows. Think about it, this woebegone franchise selected him #1 overall, but after just his 2nd season, they were done with him and would never pay him a 2nd contract. It’s seems evident they had no problem rubbing it in his face with the Watson trade. 
My take; He’ll be out of the League in 3 years. 

He would make a decent back up for a team, that may very well be his place if he is around long term…, or not,

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On 7/11/2022 at 10:58 AM, Chandler#81 said:

Obviously, you haven’t heard the latest. Many reports out of Cleveland now state he was detested there. Selfish, arrogant, undisciplined and immature. Characteristics every NFL fan knows. Think about it, this woebegone franchise selected him #1 overall, but after just his 2nd season, they were done with him and would never pay him a 2nd contract. It’s seems evident they had no problem rubbing it in his face with the Watson trade. 
My take; He’ll be out of the League in 3 years. 

 

My “from a long ways away” viewpoint on Baker is that he doesn’t appear to be a guy who takes very much accountability when things aren’t going well — very much a “blame and make excuses” guy rather than a “look at myself” guy.  Obviously I’ve not been in the locker room so this is just an outsider’s opinion.

 

I think Baker has the talent to be a “decent” NFL QB and have a lengthy career, if he ever learns to adapt and grow as an adult.

 

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On 7/8/2022 at 8:20 PM, Limeaid said:

 

Maybe he gets commercial for moving company.

What was the company which moved Browns out of town in middle of the night?

 

Mayflower but I thought it was the Colts that snuck out of town?

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On 7/12/2022 at 8:23 PM, Billy Claude said:

 

Well, there were some stories even before they got Watson, for example, the mess with OBJ, and the adult in the room comment.  Duke Johnson also doesn't seem to think much of Baker.   

The Browns deny making the “adult in the QB room” comment. I think that is just PR BS.  It certainly fits with him playing Halo for 10 hours the day before the GB game in which he played horribly, threw 4 INTs and didn’t seem to know the game plan.  He was pretty much single handedly responsible for the 24-22 loss.  The Halo marathon was Christmas Day and he had been out that week due to Covid protocol.  It seems indisputable since some random kid who played the game with him tweeted about it that day.

 

https://366sportsnetwork.com/2022/07/09/baker-mayfield-divided-locker-room-played-10-hours-of-video-games-a-day-prior-to-big-december-game/

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This character stuff coming out about Mayfield after his time in Cleveland is strange. How didn’t NFL teams, or at least the Browns see these red flags? He was an immensely successful college QB, but I also never seen a QB act so immature on the field. If that’s how a guy is when the cameras are on, it’s hard to believe it’s not worse when they’re off. I distinctly remember Mayfield’s college career more for his lewd gestures and antics than on field play. I was rooting for the guy in Cleveland, because he was fun to watch, but it’s hard to believe no one was aware of the risk. 

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1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:

This character stuff coming out about Mayfield after his time in Cleveland is strange. How didn’t NFL teams, or at least the Browns see these red flags? He was an immensely successful college QB, but I also never seen a QB act so immature on the field. If that’s how a guy is when the cameras are on, it’s hard to believe it’s not worse when they’re off. I distinctly remember Mayfield’s college career more for his lewd gestures and antics than on field play. I was rooting for the guy in Cleveland, because he was fun to watch, but it’s hard to believe no one was aware of the risk. 

He’s really good when he has a boulder on his shoulder 

 

 

but …. Only then 

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18 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

 


Yeah come on Mike Rob stop it! Baker isn’t that great but he is definitely a top 32 QB and when healthy and has at least an average roster around him would likely be in the top half of the league (top 16). We all know this planet never has 32 franchise QBs in existence at the same time and while I would agree he isn’t a franchise guy (which has so much more to it than talent), he is certainly a starter quality player no doubt. Now way you can name 32 QBs you’d take over Baker and be serious about it.

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