BarleyNY Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 45 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Browns have the cap space to let Mayfield sit out. They ain’t trading him to the AFC. The dude is like a little troll that feeds off resentment. They’ll want him in NFC. I honestly don’t think it’ll really matter to them. If the Browns don’t think he’s good enough for them, then they aren’t going to worry about him being on an AFC team - especially a non-division one. They gotta get through some combination of Burrow, Lamar, Allen, Mahomes, Wilson, Hebert, Carr and who knows who else. He’d be way down the list even if he was on a good team like Indy. I am sure they will use it as a bargaining chip for AFC teams though. Indy would have to way overpay. The reports of Colts interest in other QBs that are suddenly popping up makes me think they are interested in Mayfield. Or perhaps it’s Mariota. But I expect them to at least try to make a move soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I honestly don’t think it’ll really matter to them. If the Browns don’t think he’s good enough for them, then they aren’t going to worry about him being on an AFC team - especially a non-division one. They gotta get through some combination of Burrow, Lamar, Allen, Mahomes, Wilson, Hebert, Carr and who knows who else. He’d be way down the list even if he was on a good team like Indy. I am sure they will use it as a bargaining chip for AFC teams though. Indy would have to way overpay. The reports of Colts interest in other QBs that are suddenly popping up makes me think they are interested in Mayfield. Or perhaps it’s Mariota. But I expect them to at least try to make a move soon. Colts with Mayfield at QB no better than Browns with Mayfield…in other words, Who cares? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Baker's window narrows further. He should go to Atlanta or New Orleans on a one-year, prove it deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, wjag said: Baker's window narrows further. He should go to Atlanta or New Orleans on a one-year, prove it deal. He's not a free agent. He is signed for over 18 million for next year because the Browns exercised an option last spring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: He's not a free agent. He is signed for over 18 million for next year because the Browns exercised an option last spring. True.. QB1 doors slammed this week in Cleveland, Atlanta, Indy, New Orleans... All eyes turn toward Seattle... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, wjag said: Baker's window narrows further. He should go to Atlanta or New Orleans on a one-year, prove it deal. ATL and NO now off the table. Seattle it is. And where art thou for Jimmy G? Edited March 21, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wjag said: True.. QB1 doors slammed this week in Cleveland, Atlanta, Indy, New Orleans... All eyes turn toward Seattle... With basically no bidders (except Seattle and maybe some unknown team), and only on a 1year deal, what is his trade value? a 3rd? I almost always forget about Panthers. I guess they could be involved too. Edited March 21, 2022 by qwksilver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: ATL and NO now off the table. Yep.. The downfall of Baker is stunning... Has a number 1 overdraft pick/Heisman Trophy winner ever fallen off so far, so fast? Today alone he lost positional ground to Mariota, Ryan and Winston.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Hope they have room for him and his wife in the Heisman House since they're getting evicted from FirstEnergy Stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, wjag said: Yep.. The downfall of Baker is stunning... Has a number 1 overdraft pick/Heisman Trophy winner ever fallen off so far, so fast? Today alone he lost positional ground to Mariota, Ryan and Winston.. Well, do we know what Cleveland's asking price is for in a trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Well, do we know what Cleveland's asking price is for in a trade? My guess is they're in desperate need of first round picks.. Seems like they're down a few for the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wjag said: My guess is they're in desperate need of first round picks.. Seems like they're down a few for the next few years. Yeah; that makes sense. Probably too rich for some of these other clubs. Edited March 21, 2022 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 With the risk of Watson being suspended for a period, a lot of QB1s coming off the table and the Browns trading Keenum to the Bills, are they pricing Mayfield out of the market with the aim that he'll cover the suspension period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: With the risk of Watson being suspended for a period, a lot of QB1s coming off the table and the Browns trading Keenum to the Bills, are they pricing Mayfield out of the market with the aim that he'll cover the suspension period? Can they afford Watson (44,965,000: signing bonus + 1,000,000 dirty salary), Mayfield (19,000,000 year 5) and Brissett (5,000,000) = $69M? Intriguing idea though. So Baker, how about you chill for six or so games and then we'll ship you out to say, Detroit, for a few firsts? You good with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Well, do we know what Cleveland's asking price is for in a trade? They have zero leverage. They will be lucky to get a 4th unless they eat some of that contract. Edited March 21, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, qwksilver said: With basically no bidders (except Seattle and maybe some unknown team), and only on a 1year deal, what is his trade value? a 3rd? I almost always forget about Panthers. I guess they could be involved too. I have a feeling the panthers might balk. Not saying they won’t be forced to do it because of lack of other options - but their OC is Ben mcadoo and he didn’t like baker at all during the 2018 Draft when he was HC of NYG. He ranked mayfield 6th QB in the class (Allen 1st) https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2018/07/ben_mcadoo_had_baker_mayfield.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Baker be like, "I want a trade", Browns be like " f-u we're trading keenum" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: ATL and NO now off the table. Seattle it is. And where art thou for Jimmy G? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you, Woo woo woo. Whoa whoa whoa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The Browns might have to compensate a team to take Baker and his 18.5 Million Dollar contract. Seems like it is down to 2 teams … Seattle and Carolina maybe Detroit. Pretty expensive for a backup QB if it ends up that way. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that Cleveland can’t complete the Watson trade until they trade or cut Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 12 hours ago, Magnum Force said: The Browns might have to compensate a team to take Baker and his 18.5 Million Dollar contract. Seems like it is down to 2 teams … Seattle and Carolina maybe Detroit. Pretty expensive for a backup QB if it ends up that way. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that Cleveland can’t complete the Watson trade until they trade or cut Mayfield. I had not heard the underlined. If true, that certainly adds to the drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Josh is the last one left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Talk about a fall from grace...apparently Browns talking to a team about Mayfield trade and the team asked the Browns for a pick as compensation for taking the contract 😂 Edited March 22, 2022 by Big Turk 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 What if Baker is the back up in Cleveland if they can’t trade him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What if Baker is the back up in Cleveland if they can’t trade him? Why would Baker show up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, Back2Buff said: Why would Baker show up? Large paychecks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What if Baker is the back up in Cleveland if they can’t trade him? If this happens, my hope for Baker would be to use this as a time to sit back and learn from it. Show a mature attitude. There's a lot he can do to contribute as a backup. It'll be his chance to be "the adult in the locker room". That was a damning statement and doesn't look good for him. Edited March 22, 2022 by Dopey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 9:37 AM, AuntieEm said: If I'm an innocent person being accused of such conduct I'm sure as heck taping my sessions fully and that will prevent any future charges that are without any merit or at least have proof the allegations are false. If Watson is found in future to be a sexual predator beyond any doubt then Cleveland Browns should be held accountable if they did not include any specific ironclad offsets to the money being guaranteed. Giving any predator that amount of financial stability is in itself criminal. Good news for Browns. They consulted with Jim Overdorf who is known for ensuring protections are written in contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Faker Mayfield! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Talk about a fall from grace...apparently Browns talking to a team about Mayfield trade and the team asked the Browns for a pick as compensation for taking the contract 😂 I think its more knowing the Browns have to unload him now. I'm sure his value isn't super high, but if Matt Ryan is worth a 3rd, so is Baker. The more spots that get filled, they less options the Browns and Baker have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: I think its more knowing the Browns have to unload him now. I'm sure his value isn't super high, but if Matt Ryan is worth a 3rd, so is Baker. The more spots that get filled, they less options the Browns and Baker have I would imagine the Seahawks are the favorites to get him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dopey said: If this happens, my hope for Baker would be to use this as a time to sit back and learn from it. Show a mature attitude. There's a lot he can do to contribute as a backup. It'll be his chance to be "the adult in the locker room". That was a damning statement and doesn't look good for him. Might be for the best. These examples rarely synch up due to comparing a Hall of Famer to a inconsistent 1st Overall Pick… …but…Drew Brees didn’t become Drew Brees until Season 6/7 in the league and a New Team. Mayfield is only in Season 5…and on original team. Just stating this because, Mayfield still has plenty of time to turn the ship around if he can center himself, get out of Cleveland and hook up with Sean Payton when he comes back. Okay that last part is 😉. But mayfield definitely needs to synch up with an up and coming Offensive Minded Coach in 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Why would Baker show up? Because not only would he not get paid, he would be fined and lose a ton of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Why would Baker show up? So he can get credit for another accumulated year and get out of Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Why would Baker show up? He's made 33 mil in nfl salary so far and will make almost 19 mil fully guaranteed next year. Plus you look like a team player ready to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 It looks like Seattle is Baker's last chance. Panthers have Darnold locked in at $18.8M , Saints have Jameis Winston locked in $28M over 2 years $21M guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I don’t understand what the thinking was of the NFLPA pushing for the 5th year option to be guaranteed for anything other than injury. Kind of funny what the NFLPA fights for. You’d think they’d fight for guys who weren’t 1st round picks to hit free agency earlier rather than getting the 5th year option fully guaranteed for guys who’ve probably made 5 times the amount of money as those who weren’t selected in 1st round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: What if Baker is the back up in Cleveland if they can’t trade him? He can’t be. Untenable situation and contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Baker mulls over his situation: 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: He can’t be. Untenable situation and contract. Right, which is why I can't imagine any team offering the Browns any premium picks in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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