wjag Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 A good friend of mine is a die hard Browns fan. I feel his pain. I simply can’t imagine a worse or more bizzaro handling of your franchise QB. Stefanski did not draft Baker. So it’s no surprise he might want to go in a different direction. The Browns GM needs to be fired. He handled this poorly. I have no issue with Baker. I was Team Allen from the git go. I wanted no part of Mayfield because I thought he was height challenged. But I do believe he will be successful with a coach and system that wants him. Send him to Indy where he can play in a dome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Donuts and Doritos Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Baker letting everyone know his feelings are hurt. I get it. So when a player leaves "it's business", but when a team seeks to trade a player "it's personal"? Browns mishandled this for sure & now it's biting them. But Baker should look in the mirror & ask why did Beckham want out & why the Browns want to replace him, then put in the work to make the changes in his game necessary to improve. That's what Allen did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomur67 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 The Browns may have to come up with the BIG bucks to satisfy the disgruntled Baker> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 47 minutes ago, tomur67 said: The Browns may have to come up with the BIG bucks to satisfy the disgruntled Baker> Baker might be too busy taking tennis lessons from Rosen to be interested. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) I ❤️ how the Browns said ‘F*** no! Sit down and shut up!’ Edited March 18, 2022 by Chandler#81 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, tomur67 said: The Browns may have to come up with the BIG bucks to satisfy the disgruntled Baker> The best business decision possible here would be give the guy you were going to fire a huge raise. I see no way this could possibly go bad. Nope, not one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I think it's a generational thing. I'm not a Boomer but close, I'm a Gen Xer and for some young people, things don't happen, things aren't real until they are posted on social media. The term "Facebook Official" comes to mind about dating. For Baker the idea of not commenting on something like this on social media is anathema. Kind of like Cole with his COVID stance on Twitter. I personally feel no need to share details of my life with strangers on the internet. I'm not saying one view is right and one is wrong, it's just one of the big differences between generations where one grew up with rotary dial phones and one grew up cutting their teeth on iPhones. I can appreciate everything you say here. I agree, one view is neither right or wrong and its a generational thing etc BUT if you have this "need" to go public fine, in this instance I think it will cost Baker real $. Maybe it was worth it to him. See how he feels when he matures more and is out of the league with no more million $ opportunities left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) All this makes us even more grateful for our current management and for #17 It's one thing to be beat by other teams. Another when a team implodes and beats itself (Texans, Browns, etc.) Edited March 18, 2022 by Jerome007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 hours ago, tomur67 said: The Browns may have to come up with the BIG bucks to satisfy the disgruntled Baker> It’s time to move on from him. Not worth it. He’s too emotional and immature to lead that team. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I ❤️ how the Browns said ‘F** no! Sit down and shut up!’ Mike Rob agrees. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Mike Rob agrees. He’s probably trying to sabotage his trade value to screw over the team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 19 hours ago, Process said: He was done as a Browns QB the second they decided to pursue Watson. Wtf did they think was going to happen? Maybe they knew, and were ready to move on, but man what a joke of an organization. Watson was never going to ****ing Cleveland. Exactly this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s time to move on from him. Not worth it. He’s too emotional and immature to lead that team. Right or wrong, once the Browns showed their hand and looked at an upgrade at QB it was predictable to see where this would go. Could the Browns make him play this season? Sure. But that is fraught with pitfalls. They still have to say they expect him to be their QB this season - until they replace him. Then they can trade him. As for Mayfield, he deserves some of the blame for this situation, but I don’t blame him for wanting out now. 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s probably trying to sabotage his trade value to screw over the team. That would be a huge mistake. He could wind up having to play there this season if they can’t get his replacement and his trade value sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: Right or wrong, once the Browns showed their hand and looked at an upgrade at QB it was predictable to see where this would go. Could the Browns make him play this season? Sure. But that is fraught with pitfalls. They still have to say they expect him to be their QB this season - until they replace him. Then they can trade him. As for Mayfield, he deserves some of the blame for this situation, but I don’t blame him for wanting out now. Got to wonder about the thought process a bit "Baker isn't emotionally mature enough to lead this team we should try to get Watson." If we try and fail how do you think Baker will handle it? "I'm sure it'll be fine." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s probably trying to sabotage his trade value to screw over the team. $18 mil cap hit if not traded. will he hold out? Or will they wait and cut him days before the season starts. 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Too little, too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Got to wonder about the thought process a bit "Baker isn't emotionally mature enough to lead this team we should try to get Watson." If we try and fail how do you think Baker will handle it? "I'm sure it'll be fine." Before his serial molestation was public, Watson was already acting like a child—from crying tears of joy singing his recent new contract, to declaring he wouldn’t play because they didn’t ask him about GM or coach. He’s a babyman 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 After reading the possible motivations of Cleveland and Mayfield presented in this thread, I conclude the parties are playing 4D checkers. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 If the little moron had kept his mouth shut, he was looking at an incredible opportunity. Browns keep him and he's the uncontested starter. Then he's in control of his own destiny. Have a good season, keep your mouth shut, be professional, then hit free agency. Unfortunately for him, he seems to be incapable of having a good season, keeping his mouth shut and being professional. Now he's just a big baby who wants to take his ball and go home. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Got to wonder about the thought process a bit "Baker isn't emotionally mature enough to lead this team we should try to get Watson." If we try and fail how do you think Baker will handle it? "I'm sure it'll be fine." I don’t think that is it. I think they just decided to move on and they’re trying to find the best option possible. They have to play the game regarding him being the starter this season. They can’t tell other teams to bend them over the negotiating table for him or their next starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I don't see why the Browns refuse to trade him. In a year, he'll be a FA and will most likely leave anyway. Why not get something in return for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 21 hours ago, Warcodered said: House arrest with Baker Mayfield? He could do a TV Commercial where they lock the gates at the stadium and won't let him in. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, dakrider said: He could do a TV Commercial where they lock the gates at the stadium and won't let him in. 😆 I mean at this point they won't let him out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean at this point they won't let him out. That would be even better. haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) HA. Baker Mayfield was THE consensus Best QB prospect in his draft class.......NOT REALLY................ **snicker snicker***** Yes Im gloatng the Bills drafted 17........shimmy shimmy shaking hula hips too lmao haha-m Edited March 18, 2022 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 6 hours ago, dakrider said: He could do a TV Commercial where they lock the gates at the stadium and won't let him in. 😆 They could have Alice Cooper hand him an eviction notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AuntieEm Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Lol don't know about anyone else but it kinda looks like Watson is ready to give Baker a kiss in that photo. If I'm cleveland and guaranteeing his contract I sure hope they included offsets that protect them. Like Watson can only have massages conducted at the Cleveland training facilities, or stipulating that the masseuse must be a male or the massage session can be taped and if there's no claims by the masseuse then the tape is erased without any viewing. I'm thinking Watson is gonna have more incidents in future whether of not he is guilty. If he Is a sexual predator he won't suddenly be abstaining and that will increase the allegations that come forward. If he is innocent there will be some lowlife that will try to target him to get some of his cash. If I'm an innocent person being accused of such conduct I'm sure as heck taping my sessions fully and that will prevent any future charges that are without any merit or at least have proof the allegations are false. If Watson is found in future to be a sexual predator beyond any doubt then Cleveland Browns should be held accountable if they did not include any specific ironclad offsets to the money being guaranteed. Giving any predator that amount of financial stability is in itself criminal. Edited March 20, 2022 by AuntieEm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 10:23 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Can he do his commercials at Lucas Oil? First ad. Moving day ...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) Mayfield has Dallas Cowboys written all over him… I know it won’t happen, but that’s a match made in heaven. Edited March 21, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I can't believe Mayfield thought he could sit out after his career to date. Unless Progressive.com becomes an expansion team, I don't see what exactly he could leverage against. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Mayfield has Dallas Cowboys written all over him… I know it won’t happen, but that’s a match made in heaven. Colts or Seahawks. Although the Browns may want to trade him to the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Greg S said: Colts or Seahawks. Although the Browns may want to trade him to the NFC. I don't think anyone should be afraid of Baker at this point. But if seattle wants him they have the draft capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: I don't think anyone should be afraid of Baker at this point. But if seattle wants him they have the draft capital. He certainly hasn't lived up to his #1 pick status but he isn't a bad QB either. I hope he goes to the NFC as the AFC is already loaded with good/great QB's. I think the Colts would be a dangerous team if they got him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Browns have the cap space to let Mayfield sit out. They ain’t trading him to the AFC. The dude is like a little troll that feeds off resentment. They’ll want him in NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Greg S said: Colts or Seahawks. Although the Browns may want to trade him to the NFC. I can't see even the Browns being dumb enough to trade Baker to an AFC team. That leaves Seattle, New Orleans, Carolina, & Detroit as the QB-needy teams. Saints or Seahawks make the most sense to me. I bet Washington feels awfully stupid after trading for Wentz... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, 947 said: I can't see even the Browns being dumb enough to trade Baker to an AFC team. That leaves Seattle, New Orleans, Carolina, & Detroit as the QB-needy teams. Saints or Seahawks make the most sense to me. I bet Washington feels awfully stupid after trading for Wentz... The Lions actually make some sense because he is about the right height to bite people’s knees. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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