Belgium_Bill Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Just wait until it adds Fitzpatrick. Love Fitz, but you know what karma he brings as a back-up, that's Josh blowing his ACL by week 4 of next season 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Love this move. Big Baller Beane is up to his old tricks. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 JA is a coach magnet and is going to be a FA magnet too. 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 This would/will be an awesome hire. It's like the Trubisky of coaches coming in. Any time you can get a position coach with recent OC experience I think that's a pretty good win. Were the Carolina offensive woes really his fault? I don't know that we can say they were based on the QB play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Belgium_Bill said: Love Fitz, but you know what karma he brings as a back-up, that's Josh blowing his ACL by week 4 of next season 😉 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: That’s not a bad nickname “May I present the King maker, drought breaker, defender of the north and conquer of the East. Josh Allen of Buffalo, first in his name.” No, we'll just add 'curse-breaker' to his titles and it will all be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: This makes it sound like we ran 11 personnel based on QB deficiency. Or at least makes it sound like Allen needs to be coached how to run it. But like....did Nolan watch our OL for the first 80% of the season? It was a major liability. Josh may very well need to improve here, but erring on the side of heavy sets seemed have been needed based on OL issues, not QB play.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Wasnt a fan of bringing him in as an OC. What he did at LSU and with Sean Payton, Brady is a homerun as QB coach. If something happens with Dorsey they got a guy on deck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JimBob2232 said: Except for LSU and Penn State and William and Mary. Guy is 32 years old and has 2 years on NFL experience and suddenly isn’t “a college coach”. i get what you are saying - but a little stability for him would go a long way. Been successful everywhere (except Carolina) - but needs to stay put somewhere and build a resume. I think he would do just fine in college. He was in NO with Sean Payton for 2 years as well. Edited February 2, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Hmmm Joe Brady most recently worked with friend-of-Josh-Allen-and-QB Sam Darnold who the Panthers would have to pay upwards of $18M for next year… Then again it looks like his salary is also his dead cap hit. Any way for Beane to wizard around that? At the very least he is a FA next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Rubes said: Sounding more official... ESPN reporting it https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33201753 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: Bills are lining up sham interviews as we speak. That's only for OC and DC interviews, and HC 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I would be shocked if Buffalo doesn't promote Ryan Wendell to OL coach. I was thinking that would be intriguing, given his history in NE playing for the legendary Coach Scar. But now I wonder if they want to bring in someone relatively more experienced to support a new OC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 exciting hire for sure - the collaborationn of Dorsey-Brady-Josh-Webb and new OL coach (TBD) is energizing - in the worst case if Dorsey here only 1 year then Brady rises to OC a nice succession plan....not expecting anything on the D-side of the balll unless Frazier gets hired (Mia, Hou, Minn)...he interviewed with Mia at least once and Hou last year - not sure about this year ? he coached Minn already doubtful he goes back there... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 God I love this place. Where else can you go from FilthyBeast’s self-loathing “eveyone and everything sucks” posts to other guys worrying about replacing Ken Dorsey, who hasn’t coached 1 snap yet as OC, because he’s going to get a head coaching job next year, all in a couple of threads! I like the Brady hire. I echo other’s sentiments that we get a Munchak or Callahan as O-line coach we will be flying in to next season on offense. I don’t think it’s just Allen, but he’s a huge draw. I think this is a very well respected coaching/front office throughout the league and it doesn’t hurt to have an owner who just fracks a little more to pay them top dollar. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzom003 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: I had to log in just to give you props lmfao. Absolutely hilarious 😂 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: I dont know this for fact, and it’s distant info, but tierney may have physically left for NJ with daboll. So this would have been done last week. Sounds plausible. Whatever happened though, the Bills upgraded. 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: So what coaching openings remain on the staff? OL. Praying for Munchak. And soon to be: STC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Awesome hire. I think we are in good hands with Dorsey/Brady for the time being. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I like someone on the staff who has called plays before. This will be beneficial to Dorsey as he gets acclimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I can see a lot of interest from free agents willing to take less to play with Josh. He's our Bell Cow to the promised land. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mark92 said: I can see a lot of interest from free agents willing to take less to play with Josh. He's our Bell Cow to the promised land. I'm a bit surprised there's not rules against this sort of thing. It's even more of a disadvantages to the have-nots, that a well marketed star can take 80% of what he can get on the open market to play for a championship, all the while knowing he can make up for it with his endorsements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I know a bunch of guys here are big fans of "Bruce Exclusive", but this just strikes me as weird. First of all, if Joe Brady taught any of the Carolina QB to function out of empty sets with 5 man protections, it's news to me. According to guys like Sharp Football who track this stuff, Carolina ran less than 1% of its plays out of 5WR sets and most out of (1,1) or (1,2) sets For another thing, Josh seemed to function out of an empty backfield with 5 man protections just fine in 2020. To the extent that he didn't in 2021, it seemed to have a lot more to do with the quality of the OL and the way opponents were defending us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I know a bunch of guys here are big fans of "Bruce Exclusive", but this just strikes me as weird. First of all, if Joe Brady taught any of the Carolina QB to function out of empty sets with 5 man protections, it's news to me. According to guys like Sharp Football who track this stuff, Carolina ran less than 1% of its plays out of 5WR sets and most out of (1,1) or (1,2) sets For another thing, Josh seemed to function out of an empty backfield with 5 man protections just fine in 2020. To the extent that he didn't in 2021, it seemed to have a lot more to do with the quality of the OL and the way opponents were defending us. Part of the problem was Brady wanted to have a heavier passing game but Ruhle wanted a heavy run game. Ruhle then used him as the scapegoat because their run game sucked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Hopefully no relation to ............ya know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Do either approach 'Dunkirk Don' levels of insight and veracity? 🤔 * Insight! Not incite! 🤨 Oh Dunkirk Dave what ever happened to him. Than Fredonia Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 This might be the most important under the radar coaching hire by the Bills in the last 20 years. Joe Brady is a phenom when it comes to designing an elite passing attack. What he did in LSU in one season with a transfer QB and a couple of unknown WR's is the stuff of legend. LSU did not have a reputation of being a passing team. They were a play great defense and run the ball type of program. That Joe Brady was the sole architect of an LSU passing offense that was the greatest ever seen in college football history is beyond dispute. Both the LSU head coach and offensive coordinator were novices when it came to implementing an NFL level passing game. That's why they hired Brady. Obviously going from Saints Offensive Quality Control coach to Passing game coordinator at LSU to offensive coordinator at Carolina in three years was a classic case of being promoted to fast. Now we have a guy who was thrown under the bus by the Panthers getting a chance to take a step back and show the league what he can do. We should all be very excited at what Dorsey, Brady and Allen will do together. I suspect we're about to see history made. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, JimBob2232 said: Except for LSU and Penn State and William and Mary. Guy is 32 years old and has 2 years on NFL experience and suddenly isn’t “a college coach”. i get what you are saying - but a little stability for him would go a long way. Been successful everywhere (except Carolina) - but needs to stay put somewhere and build a resume. I think he would do just fine in college. Which 2 years of NFL experience are you talking about? The 2 with the Saints or the 2 with the Panthers? He was twice suddenly not a college coach and that's the way he wanted it because he doesn't want to recruit. I have no idea if he needs stability. I think he figures he probably needs to be a year removed from getting fired before he can secure an OC job in a situation where he is poised to succeed (and advance his likely goal of becoming a HC). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: This might be the most important under the radar coaching hire by the Bills in the last 20 years. Joe Brady is a phenom when it comes to designing an elite passing attack. What he did in LSU in one season with a transfer QB and a couple of unknown WR's is the stuff of legend. LSU did not have a reputation of being a passing team. They were a play great defense and run the ball type of program. That Joe Brady was the sole architect of an LSU passing offense that was the greatest ever seen in college football history is beyond dispute. Both the LSU head coach and offensive coordinator were novices when it came to implementing an NFL level passing game. That's why they hired Brady. Obviously going from Saints Offensive Quality Control coach to Passing game coordinator at LSU to offensive coordinator at Carolina in three years was a classic case of being promoted to fast. Now we have a guy who was thrown under the bus by the Panthers getting a chance to take a step back and show the league what he can do. We should all be very excited at what Dorsey, Brady and Allen will do together. I suspect we're about to see history made. Sure, but what's the upside? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rubes said: Sure, but what's the upside? I suspect that as more Bills fans become aware of Brady's history and what he did at LSU they are going to get real excited about the possibilities here. IMO this could be a perfect storm that results in a historically explosive NFL offense. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 McBeane's are killing it (again) Trust the Process 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Notify a doctor. 👆He's been at it for over 4 hours. 🤨 Edited February 2, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Which 2 years of NFL experience are you talking about? The 2 with the Saints or the 2 with the Panthers? He was twice suddenly not a college coach and that's the way he wanted it because he doesn't want to recruit. I have no idea if he needs stability. I think he figures he probably needs to be a year removed from getting fired before he can secure an OC job in a situation where he is poised to succeed (and advance his likely goal of becoming a HC). It's easy to say today that Burrow, Chase and Jefferson were always great but the reality is that they were relative unknowns when Brady took the job as LSU's passing coordinator in 2019. The LSU head coach and offensive coordinator suspected they had something special with these guys but didn't have the knowledge to create an offense they could flourish in. Brady not only implemented an NFL stye passing game at LSU he called the pass plays on game day. And that LSU team went to have the greatest passing attack in college football history with the QB and both WR's having great success in the NFL. For me it's Brady's experience at LSU that is so exciting for what he might do in Buffalo with Allen. Brady recognized that he had an NFL caliber QB and WR's and he designed an NFL passing attack to take advantage. Go back and watch some of those LSU games in 2019, particularly the SEC championship game and the two playoff games to see how Brady coordinates a passing attack. Not only will Diggs love what Brady brings to the table but Davis s going to really emerge as a threat in a Brady passing system. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Check out these highlights from the LSU versus Oklahoma playoff game in 2019: Edited February 2, 2022 by CincyBillsFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 This is taking too long. Hey Beane, ask Josh to get on the phone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: I suspect that as more Bills fans become aware of Brady's history and what he did at LSU they are going to get real excited about the possibilities here. IMO this could be a perfect storm that results in a historically explosive NFL offense. This guy seems to agree with you... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I’m stoked I was telling my buddy yesterday that if we don’t hire Dorsey as OC we should take a shot on Joe Brady. The guy was legendary at LSU and I can’t hold the ineptness of Darnold against him. To keep Dorsey and get Brady is the ultimate win! Go Bills. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Our point scored stat next year is just going to be a rocket emoji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: The problem Brady is having getting what he wants is that everyone in college knows he wants to be in the pro's...........and doesn't want to recruit...........otherwise he would get a huge deal as a college OC. Everyone in the pro's knows he sucked as an OC at Carolina. So while it seems like a step back.......taking a QB coach job with a Bills team that.........if they play their personnel cards right this offseason.........could end up as one of the all-time scoring offenses in NFL history certainly makes sense. Offensive goal for 2022......38 points per game. Yeah, hard to believe he couldn't get more out of Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, PJ Walker and Chubba Hubbard... Anyway, I don't think Josh needs this guy at this point. His QB Coach is now also his OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Daboll who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yeah, hard to believe he couldn't get more out of Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, PJ Walker and Chubba Hubbard... Anyway, I don't think Josh needs this guy at this point. His QB Coach is now also his OC. They need a QB coach. It's best to let Dorsey concentrate on being an OC only. Edited February 3, 2022 by Doc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: The problem Brady is having getting what he wants is that everyone in college knows he wants to be in the pro's...........and doesn't want to recruit...........otherwise he would get a huge deal as a college OC. Everyone in the pro's knows he sucked as an OC at Carolina. So while it seems like a step back.......taking a QB coach job with a Bills team that.........if they play their personnel cards right this offseason.........could end up as one of the all-time scoring offenses in NFL history certainly makes sense. Offensive goal for 2022......38 points per game. 42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yeah, hard to believe he couldn't get more out of Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, PJ Walker and Chubba Hubbard... Anyway, I don't think Josh needs this guy at this point. His QB Coach is now also his OC. Allen is very coachable and open to any ideas that improve his game. Joe Brady is well known to the QB's & WR's of the NFL because of that amazing season at LSU. Allen will appreciate the insight Brady brings to the table and Brady will appreciate that he's lucked into coaching the NFL's most electrifying QB. There is ever reason to believe that these two will make magic together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Now can we just get an old grizzly proven OL coach in the building please? That would be ideal. Like Carl Mauck? 😄 I love the hiring. Great credentials for the position... plus the William and Mary pedigree (Marv, McDermott, Tomlin) and the fact that he's from the Sean Payton coaching tree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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