Billsfan1972 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I said to everyone at my place to kick it to like the 10 yard line and have them run 6-7 seconds off the clock. Some thought squib, but then you can just fall on it. Did anyone think kick it out of the end zone for a touchback???? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Not me. I thought squib it all the way. Although a high short kick was probably the correct answer. Regardless, kicking it out if the end zone was by far the worst option 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I immediately hugged my wife after the TD and then said " Now. Let's squib the MF'r and burn some time off of the clock!". I then told her that as a Bills fan, I've been through this before and I do not count my chickens and even told her that I hope the hug was not a Jinx. DISGUSTING WAY TO LOSE A GAME! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I said to everyone at my place to kick it to like the 10 yard line and have them run 6-7 seconds off the clock. Some thought squib, but then you can just fall on it. Did anyone think kick it out of the end zone for a touchback???? No...especially when Pringle was the one deep and not Hill and the Bills were money on those type of kicks all year long, usually pinning teams inside the 20. Or at least squib it on the ground to force a player to pick it up and do something with it. Edited January 24, 2022 by Big Turk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 No idea why they didn’t force a return there, would have burned at least one play off. Really poor game management 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: I said to everyone at my place to kick it to like the 10 yard line and have them run 6-7 seconds off the clock. Some thought squib, but then you can just fall on it. Did anyone think kick it out of the end zone for a touchback???? Honestly I did not think they would squib it...But I did think they would have Bass hit it high and a little short...They have done that at times this season and Bass was able to not only kick it a little short of the goal line, but also in one corner...They actually had some nice success with it at times. I think they were just scared to death...They saw the speed burn us already and were scared to do anything but kick it through the endzone. In their defense all they have to do is hold them to less than 40 yds in 13 seconds and they win...So...Anyway... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I was all for the touch back. The Music City Forward Lateral was definitely in my mind. No chance of that with a TB 4 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I didn't think they'd squib it because I've seen plays where it hits a guy halfway down the field and ends up near midfield, but I did think he was going to kick it high and short of the goalline to force a return 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 No why does no time go off the clock for a kickoff. Don't like that one bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I did think of both options but truthfully my brain was overloaded I didn't know what I wanted them to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Nope. Kick it high and short of the goal line like we have done all year. Didn't think there was any other option 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I would not have squibbed as an up back can field and give themselves up instantly for only a second loss. The short pop up would have been my preferred method. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I said squib, but would have been fine w/ a sky kick too. Did they have Tyreek deep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 We know the result of the play...not the play call. It's entirely possible (though today it's more convient to yell about coaching) that the play was called to kick high to the 5 and force a return and our young kicker was too hyped up and put too much leg into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 No, I was very surprised when they went for the long kickofff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) I was honestly afraid of a run back. So I was thinking kick for a touchback. Not in my wildest dreams did I imagine the Bills playing that soft for 13 seconds. Edited January 24, 2022 by JackKemp 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I thought squib but after the game realized the clock doesn’t start till the ball is touched. They just fall in the ball and declare themselves and it saves no time. Then I thought they should pooch it to around the 5 and force them to run it back which would take time off the clock. But listening to Sal right now on WGR and he said he asked Feely on the sideline at the time. Feeler said you kick it into the end zone; too many weird things could happen if you let them field it. Feeley said you rely on your D to do their job for 13 seconds. and they didn’t. 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: We know the result of the play...not the play call. It's entirely possible (though today it's more convient to yell about coaching) that the play was called to kick high to the 5 and force a return and our young kicker was too hyped up and put too much leg into it. He's done it all year. I doubt he got too amped. But who knows. Anyone ask the question or listen to the answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Our coaching staff isn't capable of figuring that out. You take the worst coaching staff ever assembled and 100 out of 100 times they win that game with 13 seconds left. All except ours! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I have a feeling we wanted the pop up kick and bass mishit it and McDermott isn’t one to throw anyone under the bus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I would rather have had a touchback than risk a squib kick. With 13 seconds left to go, you have to trust your defense with your opponent at their 25 yard line. No reason to try a squib and potentially hand them the ball at midfield. Obviously a fair catch at the 10 would have been optimal, but a touchback was fine. Just play defense and win the game. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsFanSD said: I would rather have had a touchback than risk a squib kick. With 13 seconds left to go, you have to trust your defense with your opponent at their 25 yard line. No reason to try a squib and potentially hand them the ball at midfield. Obviously a fair catch at the 10 would have been optimal, but a touchback was fine. Just play defense and win the game. Idk what squib kicks people here have seen lol they sometimes get back to the goal line area but a lot of times they get fielded by upbacks especially when they know it’s coming 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Only return was Pringle to the 26 yard line and took 7 seconds. Bass plenty of time did the short 3 yard run up and kicked it short to the 5-10 yard line during the year. People would ask why he did that. Pretty sure no one told him to do otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I was for kicking it out of end zone. Sal on WGR said he asked Jay Feely if Bills should squib it. Feely said no you kick it deep..because 13 seconds. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I actually thought kick it out of the endzone. We just saw Hill return a punt to the redzone, and that game was so wild at the time I almost wanted them to slow down and force Mahomes 40 yards on two plays. Problem is, we played too soft and the play design (especially on the first pass to Hill) was executed perfectly 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: He's done it all year. I doubt he got too amped. But who knows. Anyone ask the question or listen to the answers? It's the "I'm just going to leave it at execution" that raises the possibility for me. I want to go back and watch the kick and any sideline reaction in game....juat can't stomach turning that game back on it the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: It's the "I'm just going to leave it at execution" that raises the possibility for me. I want to go back and watch the kick and any sideline reaction in game....juat can't stomach turning that game back on it the moment. it's vague. Coudl have been defensive execution. Sideline reaction as you noted would be telling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, RyanC883 said: it's vague. Coudl have been defensive execution. Sideline reaction as you noted would be telling. Well, McD is normally pretty vague. However this Tweet specifies this is about the kick itself and nothing about defense. If in fact it was just Bass putting too much on the ball this would be McD's answer to a T. Wouldn't throw his young kicker under the bus like some coaches. He's willing to take the heat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I wanted them to kick it into the endzone because i thought 13 seconds from the 25 was a done deal. I figured a crappy bounce and someone picks it up and gets to the 40 and we have to play real defense for a play. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Okay just checked..... Bass did the full 7 yard run up and kicked it into the end zone. When he was kicking pop-ups during the year to the 5-10 yard, he would do a 3 yard approach. And Pringle was back to field the kick, not Hill. Edited January 24, 2022 by Billsfan1972 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I have a feeling we wanted the pop up kick and bass mishit it and McDermott isn’t one to throw anyone under the bus I don't remember the run up Bass used, but I think he shortens it for the pop up kicks. It looks more like a field goal run up when he's doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Yes. On the GDT I said kick it out for a touchback after our ST completely messed up a previous punt return from KC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I fully thought kick it into the endzone, too many weird things could happen otherwise. I didn’t expect the defense to protect the sidelines in a prevent lineup, never challenging the KC receivers. That’s where the game was lost, not the kickoff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Yes. On the GDT I said kick it out for a touchback after our ST completely messed up a previous punt return from KC. Yes, but that took up more then 13 seconds.......😜😡 Again so many colossal screw-ups the last 13 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Chiefs offense was on fire all night, and the Bills had no answer on defense. Bills' special teams coverage is excellent, and they have been doing the kick to the goalline thing with good results all season. I have no idea in the world why they instead chose to leave it up to the D to seal the win last night. They completed the debacle by calling the worst possible defensive plan for the final two plays. Absolutely putrid coaching decisions. I feel so bad for the players. It's a shame, because the Bills' coaching staff is generally excellent and has built a winning culture and a fantastic team. But they stink at the critical strategy calls. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I have a feeling we wanted the pop up kick and bass mishit it and McDermott isn’t one to throw anyone under the bus I honestly think Mcd thought they wouldn't get where they did with 13 seconds and wanted it kicked out of the EZ. It's easy to over think it when the unthinkable happens.. I do see where your coming from as he said 'execution and I will leave it at' that in the presser. Edited January 24, 2022 by london_bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Didn’t seem like that was what McD wanted when asked in post game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: I said to everyone at my place to kick it to like the 10 yard line and have them run 6-7 seconds off the clock. Some thought squib, but then you can just fall on it. Did anyone think kick it out of the end zone for a touchback???? The touchback did not bother me. A squib kick is no guarantee either. You can do a squib kick and the receiving team can pick it up but then immediately give themselves up on the play and you probably get one second off the clock. Edited January 24, 2022 by Mark Vader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 to answer the thread title question...No I did not intrinsically Think "Oh yes kick out of the back of the endzone for a touchback"....when it happened I was caught up with the Glory of what we had just witnessed. I just wanted those seconds Gone. At the time , nd yes Im clearly not a coach...But They ARE paid coaches so I cant say wether the kicker simply kicked it too far from adrenaline or he was told to do what he did. McDermott won't throw his player under the bus, has not and will not even if that scenario was true. imo m 6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: The touchback did not bother me. A squib kick is no guarantee either. You can do a squib kick and the receiving team can pick it up but then immediately give themselves up on the play and you probably get one second of the clock. Im kind of droopy today this post is in a way soothing I appreciate it. m 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I thought squib but after the game realized the clock doesn’t start till the ball is touched. They just fall in the ball and declare themselves and it saves no time. Then I thought they should pooch it to around the 5 and force them to run it back which would take time off the clock. But listening to Sal right now on WGR and he said he asked Feely on the sideline at the time. Feeler said you kick it into the end zone; too many weird things could happen if you let them field it. Feeley said you rely on your D to do their job for 13 seconds. and they didn’t. That's what I thought. Why try to waste time returning when squib kick. Get done fast and let Mahomes try his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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