Slack_in_MA Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Hmmm... Sonja Henie's out...Danny Noonan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, TBBills said: AJ Klein Just to blow him up at the line ! but I do agree. Frazier might best be flexible as to how Bills manage Kelce  etc D line has some work to do being sure to set edge and contain while pressure comes up the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, streetkings01 said: They made that Chiefs offense work for yards…..nothing came easy. Exactly the opposite of what the Steelers did. We generally match up well against passing offenses, it’s running O’s we struggle against. This game can be won if the Bills O can sustain drives, keep KC offense off the field, and give our D adequate rest. The inept Steelers O gassed their D, which was holding up early, then the Chiefs scored a couple then the D quit. Sustained time-consuming drives with points at the end is the key.  Also beat them up physically cause I’m sick of their s$*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 40 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: No, Neal is horrible in coverage. Yeah I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Cam Lewis and Siran Neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The answer is just about everyone. We play mostly zone w 2 deep safeties vs Mahomes. In zone coverage the LB's and dbacks work together, there won't be a guy following Kelce around.  Last time we played them, Kelce and Tyreek had about 60 yards each. It was manageable.  Leslie may run some man coverage to mix it up, a few games ago he had Tredavious shadowing Kelce for awhile but switched back to zone not long after.  Our biggest worry is going to be blocking Chris Jones and Melvin Ingram. Neither one of those guys played last game (Jones hurt, Ingram wasn't a Chief yet) and they're both elite in my opinion. KC was 4-4 when Ingram came on board and they launched from there. Jones killed us last year in the AFC championship game.  When we play teams that can pass rush well, Daboll and the Oline HAVE TO make the run game work to some extent.  If we end up in another situation where we give up on the run and make Josh throw 50 passes I think we are toast. Must keep their D guessing. It sounds extreme but Motor may be just as important in this game as Josh. You can do it little/big man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Steptide said: I'll say it over and over until the game is over, pressure the bleep out of Mahomes. He cracks under pressure. Remember the first game against Miami this season? That's what we need to do to Mahomes all game Agreed ... he gets frustrated easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Milano YEP! Â This is the answer. Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Dane was unable to cover Pitts effectively and Kelce is bigger. He will have to be bumped early by an LB and or a safety and then covered by Dane or Johnson. The problem is Mahomes extending plays and keeping Kelce covered. If he starts hurting us Sean might have to double him with Edmunds and a db. He can wreck a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Matt Milano and Taron Johnson would be my best guess with help from Hyde and Poyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: ...the key is to make Mahomes be patient ... he is naturally impatient and wants to make a play sooner than later and turn it into a school yard match ... because he is a natural athlete. I think it was Phil Simms who gave that analysis and explained why Bills won in October. The question is, do the Bills employ this method again as it appears the Chiefs may have figured out how to beat the Tampa 2. So, try to minimize Kelse/Hill (good luck) and make Mahomes be "patient."  Sound like anyone you know?  1 hour ago, HomeTeam said: Man, Kelce looks much faster than his 4.6 40 time. Every time I get a chance to watch him, he just runs away from people.  He's definitely going to be a problem.  Sound like anyone you know?  46 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said: Hmmm... Sonja Henie's out...Danny Noonan?  Jeff Gillooly maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Matt Milano…why is this even a thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 We are built specifically to beat these guys. Let's ***** go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Double Kelce and double Hill at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Well no one did in the AFCC last year, so anyone will be an upgrade.  Probably best to put a corner on him. He was stifled this year for several weeks they'll probably see what was working well on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 It will be a combination of different players. Gotta limit the free releases, regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Bills should double Hill and Kelce and force someone else to beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Kelce    6-5, 255, 4.61 (40) Edmunds 6-5, 253, 4.54 (40) If Tremaine is such a world class coverage linebacker, then let him be the hero by playing TK man all day. Chuck him at the line. Yeah, but I’d like to win, not prove that Edmunds is who we thought he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Will be a group effort. Need to muddle rush Mahomes much more than Pittsburgh. They let him outside way too much. He slaughtered them once leaving the pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Edmunds will be the main cover man, and he will hold Kelce to under a hunny and no TD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Edmunds lol. Bracketing Kelce with Edmunds and a db isn’t the worst idea…. Jam him at the line and stick him between Milano/Edmunds and Johnson/Neal could work well. Particularly if they jam him at the LOS and treat Kelce like a blocker within 5 yards.  1 hour ago, Paul Costa said: Will be a group effort. Need to muddle rush Mahomes much more than Pittsburgh. They let him outside way too much. He slaughtered them once leaving the pocket Groot and Epenesa will help with this. Their length/height created issues for him scrambling outside and hitting dump offs/screens outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 13 hours ago, muppy said: putting Edmunds soley on Kelce scares me...........how effective would that be...*cringe* I dunno.............I could be wrong it would be awesome if he could somehow pull it off....Kelce is one of those players he's gonna get his yards one way or the other...the key for me is pressure on Mahomes and limit the damage by dominating the trenches and harassing mahomes as Much as possible.  m Trust me, when I suggested this I cringed too. I just don't see anyone else on this team who compares in size and speed. If you don't jam him at the line, it won't matter who covers him. Maybe Josh can cover him? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Kelce will make some plays. The key in this game will be the same as the game earlier this year: Limit his YAC. Not just Kelce, but all the receivers. Mahomes was 1st in the NFL in YAC this year with 2699 Yds (56% of his total passing yards). If the Bills can keep the receivers in front of them and limit YAC, then I think they win. Â I think this matters much less on the Bills' side. Allen was 17th in the NFL this year in YAC with 1743 Yds (39% of his total passing yards). Â FWIW, Brady, Burrow, Rodgers, Stafford, Prescott, Garoppolo, and Roethlisberger were all in the top 10 in YAC. Only Brady and Stafford threw for more yds prior to YAC than Allen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 15 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Kelce    6-5, 255, 4.61 (40) Edmunds 6-5, 253, 4.54 (40) If Tremaine is such a world class coverage linebacker, then let him be the hero by playing TK man all day. Chuck him at the line. dunno if Tremaine is world class man to man tho.  hes more of a zone guy imo.   will help whoever is covering Kelce alot if they,  CHIP him on every friggen play. boggles my mind when i see teams let top end pass catching TEs just run free off the line.  Gronk has made a living offa it for years.  recievers hate being chipped.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Best way to try to stop elite TEs is with corners not linebackers. Edmunds can't cover Kelce and you don't want your MLB split out wide. They will play zone with a safety over the top of Hill most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Kelce will make some plays. The key in this game will be the same as the game earlier this year: Limit his YAC. Not just Kelce, but all the receivers. Mahomes was 1st in the NFL in YAC this year with 2699 Yds (56% of his total passing yards). If the Bills can keep the receivers in front of them and limit YAC, then I think they win. Â I think this matters much less on the Bills' side. Allen was 17th in the NFL this year in YAC with 1743 Yds (39% of his total passing yards). Â FWIW, Brady, Burrow, Rodgers, Stafford, Prescott, Garoppolo, and Roethlisberger were all in the top 10 in YAC. Only Brady and Stafford threw for more yds prior to YAC than Allen. It would be nice for the Bills to pick up a few speed guys at WR who can generate more after the catch. We are always doing it the hard way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: dunno if Tremaine is world class man to man tho.  hes more of a zone guy imo.   will help whoever is covering Kelce alot if they,  CHIP him on every friggen play. boggles my mind when i see teams let top end pass catching TEs just run free off the line.  Gronk has made a living offa it for years.  recievers hate being chipped.  The "world class" was tongue in cheek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, HomeTeam said: It would be nice for the Bills to pick up a few speed guys at WR who can generate more after the catch. We are always doing it the hard way. Unfortunately guys like Stefon and Cole seem to go down quickly after the catch. Regardless of who covers Kelce, first its imperative to jam him at the LOS. Then keep him in front of you with support. It's when he's galloping across the center of the field that kills you. Be prepared for those stupid shovel passes inside the 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Safeties will help out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Unfortunately, on the biggest play of the season, the answer to my question was: NOBODY!!! Â How is that even possible?? Â A game the Bills should have won. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Tragic...  To balance though . Somehow the Chiefs kept ignoring Davis? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 No White, no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, motorj said: No White, no chance Tend to agree with this. We need to draft a CB to help White and as an emergency in case someone gets hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Ive mentioned this in training camp, but Tremaine needed to study guarding Kelce atleast two hours per day. He's the only one on the team with the size and speed to keep up with him. If he studied his routes and tendencies and covered him 1 on 1, then tremaine could be worth something to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Ive mentioned this in training camp, but Tremaine needed to study guarding Kelce atleast two hours per day. He's the only one on the team with the size and speed to keep up with him. If he studied his routes and tendencies and covered him 1 on 1, then tremaine could be worth something to this team. It’s not happening. Edmunds doesn’t have the instincts necessary to do so. I actually made it a priority to watch him specifically on defensive plays. He often stays flat footed and makes poor coverage choices. One play he went out to the flat to guard somebody that was nearly inconsequential to the developing play. He makes tackles to far off the LOS. Rarely do you ever see him stick someone for a short gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: It’s not happening. Edmunds doesn’t have the instincts necessary to do so. I actually made it a priority to watch him specifically on defensive plays. He often stays flat footed and makes poor coverage choices. One play he went out to the flat to guard somebody that was nearly inconsequential to the developing play. He makes tackles to far off the LOS. Rarely do you ever see him stick someone for a short gain. 100%. Im just trying to find a way to make Tremaine useful and successful, and I think preparing everyday for Kelce would have helped him succeed to today.  But I agree, he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: 100%. Im just trying to find a way to make Tremaine useful and successful, and I think preparing everyday for Kelce would have helped him succeed to today.  But I agree, he sucks. I know you are trying, but at the end of the day he sucks. I can sit here and study quantum mechanics for 2 hours a day, and by the end of the year, I’m still not going to be able to do it. We need to start drafting better LBs with instincts and speed. Otherwise we will not be able to beat teams like the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Coming out of a timeout on the games most important play. Nobody covered him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 There are guys in Belarus who have never seen american football who probably have better instincts than Tremaine Edmunds.  The 6-5 250 lber with 4.5 speed that you never see make a play and sure as crap could never cover Kelce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Absolutely NO ONE on the last play of regulation  Wallace decided to run back with him but 8 feet next to him and covering no one instead of covering Kelce  2 years in a row of horrid D against KC in playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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