Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don't like Diggs chances putting his hands on GR. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Who said weather doesn’t matter? when it’s in the stat book …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, zow2 said: Hot take, i think the Bills either kill Kansas City...by 17+ points, or they just lose. I don't think it's going to be a close Bills win (i.e. by 6 or fewer). Not really a hot take, this team is either on point and wins decisively or they lose close games. There is no real in between except the Colts game which was an outlier. So if they get off to a slow start and fall behind early, especially by more than one score that's all she wrote and the Chiefs either win big or a similar gut wrenching outcome like the Titans or Bucs await. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 48 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Simms wants allll the smoke. Nick Wright is in a corner somewhere plugging his ears, holding his breath, kicking and and screaming like the toddler he is. I think Nick got a ***** this morning when Cowherd picked the Chiefs. Then he proceeded to continue mocking Josh and the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) Sims has been really nonsensical with his analysis of the Bills. He repeatedly says our receivers "scare no one" , and that our team is Allen doing it all. It's idiotic. He soured on us during our slump and is still stuck on the same tune through 5 straight wins. He's entered the Louis Riddick zone of corrupted analysts seeking the hot take mantle. Meanwhile the Chiefs looked lousy in their last 2 games. Lose to a 7 loss Bengals team and nearly lose to Broncos. They blow out a dysfunctional Steelers team that did not even look like they practiced. Edited January 19, 2022 by RichRiderBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I got it..... I also pointed out their drives. They did great vs. Mahomes the first game, but Tannehill moved the ball when needed the second half. I did not take note of who was in the last TD drive (so sorry). But yes the defense is infallible according to all of you, so if you're not worried about Mahomes & the Chiefs, I guess I'm not....😜 Now you're just being silly. No one here claims the defense is infalliable. But it is very good. McDermott / Frazier Ds do seem prone to give up 1-2 big plays per game. You can always check the .pdf file in the game information on nfl.com or check the box score at pro-football-reference. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202201150buf.htm If you scroll down to "snap counts" and sort on defense, you'll see that Dane Jackson is the only defender who played 100% of the snaps. All the other stalwarts who normally play the whole game like Poyer, Hyde, Edmunds, Milano, and Wallace only played 76% of the snaps, or 15 fewer snaps than Jackson. The final TD drive for NE was a 15 play drive in the 4Q. So you don't have to notice, you can objectively with a few mouseclicks verify that the Pats last TD drive was against our backups. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Mango said: Not to sound condescending, but… This is how the entire season has gone. We lead the league in point differential and are also 0-5 in single possession games (with one big loss to Indy). The 2021-22 Bills haven’t won a single close game. It would seem they are due then. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: CAPTAIN 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Tacking onto my earlier post revisiting the October Chiefs-Bills matchup, one thing that's of note is the Chiefs defense was actually able to get off the field quite a bit. And they did it without Chris Jones, no Melvin Ingram, no Charvarius Ward and a very limited Willie Gay (first game back from IR). The Bills had nine non-kneel down drives and punted on four of them (three 3-and-outs). -3 plays, minus 14 yards, punt -3 plays, 8 yards, punt -4 plays, 41 yards, punt -3 plays, 0 yards, punt Another drive would have ended with a 3-and-out but a 3rd-and-17 pass that was intercepted was nullified by a roughing the passer penalty. The Bills took advantage of that penalty and scored a game-sealing TD (when the rain started to fall, no less.) In the two 2020 matchups, the Bills had roughly ~20 'real' drives (I excluded, for instance, the 2-min drill Allen INT in the regular season meeting.) Out of those 20 drives, the Chiefs got the Bills off the field eight times (40 pct of the time). -6 plays, 26 yards, punt -5 plays, 10 yards, punt -3 plays, 7 yards, punt -12 plays, INT -3 plays, 0 yards, punt -8 plays, 21 yards, punt -4 plays, 17 yards, punt -3 plays, 5 yards, punt If the Bills play offense like they did vs the Patriots, or like they did in the October matchup vs Chiefs, then they are going to put up their fair share of points against KC's defense, even if KC plays perfect D. KC playing perfect defense won't stop Buffalo's offense. But KC's defense, even as pathetic as they were early in the season, seems to have a knack for getting off the field. They do it by playing press coverage, jamming receivers, throwing off your timing, by bringing heat from everywhere, and when Chris Jones is on the field, he can single-handedly blow up a drive (as we saw in AFC title game.) Going to be a fun game. Looking forward to it. Edited January 20, 2022 by beebe edit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, FLFan said: It would seem they are due then. Not only that…anyone with half a brain who has watched NFL football knows that winning close games is typically a coin flip. The Bills losing 5 of them this year without a win is statistically improbable and not a sign that they “can’t win close games.” They’ve been unlucky. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, eball said: Not only that…anyone with half a brain who has watched NFL football knows that winning close games is typically a coin flip. The Bills losing 5 of them this year without a win is statistically improbable and not a sign that they “can’t win close games.” They’ve been unlucky undisciplined. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, loedward22 said: that’s absolutely incredible. That can’t be disregarded as a mere coincidence… Based on the results we shouldn’t have punted in other either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, eball said: Not only that…anyone with half a brain who has watched NFL football knows that winning close games is typically a coin flip. The Bills losing 5 of them this year without a win is statistically improbable and not a sign that they “can’t win close games.” They’ve been unlucky. Bills were about 3 inches shy of having homefield advantage throughout the playoffs and potentially avoiding KC altogether. Unlucky indeed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Lost said: Bills were about 3 inches shy of having homefield advantage throughout the playoffs and potentially avoiding KC altogether. Unlucky indeed. Yeah it's tough. Last season Bills won a lot of those close games. This year not the case, however the law of averages states we are due 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Lost said: Bills were about 3 inches shy of having homefield advantage throughout the playoffs and potentially avoiding KC altogether. Unlucky indeed. It wasn’t just getting a few inches. They still would have had to score a TD with 20 seconds left or win it in OT. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 11:11 PM, No Place To Hyde said: We really need the "confused face" emoji as a response. Simple they ended up as the higher seed in the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: It wasn’t just getting a few inches. They still would have had to score a TD with 20 seconds left or win it in OT. He's talking Josh's slip on the 1 yard line against Tennessee. No slip and Josh gets the TD and the Bills have home-field advantage. There were 21 seconds left at that point. I know it's been a while but we lost by 3 points, Josh gets the TD there and we are likely going up by 4. Tennessee would have needed a TD with whatever time would have been left (21 seconds minus the time for kickoff). Edited January 20, 2022 by GottaRun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Dane Jackson is an awesome tackler. Can’t say the same for Levi. It’s gonna be essential that the Bills are good tacklers in this game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I got it..... I also pointed out their drives. They did great vs. Mahomes the first game, but Tannehill moved the ball when needed the second half. I did not take note of who was in the last TD drive (so sorry). But yes the defense is infallible according to all of you, so if you're not worried about Mahomes & the Chiefs, I guess I'm not....😜 Your expectations are unreal. You cannot expect a great performance every game. No one said the defense is infallible…that’s just another child like response from you. 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not sure how you can chalk up going 0-5 in one score games to luck…. I’ll give you the Titans game, but how do you suggest luck as being the reason they lost the other four? (Pats, Jaguars, Steelers, and Bucs)…. More so about attention to detail, being disciplined, and preparation in close games IMO. LOL So I guess we were better prepared and disciplined last year because we won the 1 score games? How did your concern of McDermott not practicing outside to be prepared for the cold work out? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Performance in "one-score games" is one of the dumbest stats and always has been. The Bills lost a "one-score game" to the Steelers. Pittsburgh led by 10 pts with 45 secs left and it became a "one-score game" only because the Bills decided to kick a first-down field goal to cut it to 7. The Bills didn't touch the ball again after attempting an onside kick. The Bills lost a "one-score game" to the Bucs, but only because they made a crazy comeback to force OT and then never touched the ball due to the NFL's dumb overtime rules. I consider the games vs Jags, Pats and Titans to be more reflective of what this stat is attempting to measure, which is end-game variance, luck, the ability to win in the clutch (if you think such a thing is an actual skill), etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Dane Jackson is an awesome tackler. Can’t say the same for Levi. It’s gonna be essential that the Bills are good tacklers in this game Stopping the run after the catch will be crucial to the Bills success in this game. Also need both of our linebackers to shut down everything underneath. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, beebe said: Performance in "one-score games" is one of the dumbest stats and always has been. The Bills lost a "one-score game" to the Steelers. Pittsburgh led by 10 pts with 45 secs left and it became a "one-score game" only because the Bills decided to kick a first-down field goal to cut it to 7. The Bills didn't touch the ball again after attempting an onside kick. The Bills lost a "one-score game" to the Bucs, but only because they made a crazy comeback to force OT and then never touched the ball due to the NFL's dumb overtime rules. I consider the games vs Jags, Pats and Titans to be more reflective of what this stat is attempting to measure, which is end-game variance, luck, the ability to win in the clutch (if you think such a thing is an actual skill), etc. ummm the Tampa Bay game definitely counts... Since they were within 1 score before kicking the field goal to tie to send it to overtime. Just cause they were down big at half and came all the way back, doesn't discount it.. that doesn't make ANY logical sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, GottaRun said: He's talking Josh's slip on the 1 yard line against Tennessee. No slip and Josh gets the TD and the Bills have home-field advantage. There were 21 seconds left at that point. I know it's been a while but we lost by 3 points, Josh gets the TD there and we are likely going up by 4. Tennessee would have needed a TD with whatever time would have been left (21 seconds minus the time for kickoff). The Bills were not on the goal line. Josh was trying to get the 1st and get at least one more play to try and score a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not sure how you can chalk up going 0-5 in one score games to luck…. I’ll give you the Titans game, but how do you suggest luck as being the reason they lost the other four? (Pats, Jaguars, Steelers, and Bucs)…. More so about attention to detail, being disciplined, and preparation in close games IMO. Jags game....I'm sorry but the Bills overlooked them and also decided not to show up for the first half of the Bucs game and are now paying for it by losing out on home field. Jags game is on the players, Bucs game is on coaching. The only game I would chalk up to "luck" is the Titans game. Pats was a monsoon and the Bills are not built to "grind" it out like the Pats did and the Steelers was the first game of the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not sure how you can chalk up going 0-5 in one score games to luck…. I’ll give you the Titans game, but how do you suggest luck as being the reason they lost the other four? (Pats, Jaguars, Steelers, and Bucs)…. More so about attention to detail, being disciplined, and preparation in close games IMO. Luck of bad weather against the Pats and unlucky that there was a ref who didn’t make the obvious PI against the Bucs. That would have won the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Slacks Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Last year coming off the bye Josh went on a several game heater starting with MNF vs SF. Perhaps last week was the beginning of another heater? https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/buf/season/2020 This is going to happen Bills Mafia. It’s best to relax and just embrace this championship run we inevitably are on! Go Bills! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, beebe said: The Bills lost a "one-score game" to the Bucs, but only because they made a crazy comeback to force OT and then never touched the ball due to the NFL's dumb overtime rules. we won the coin toss in OT but then proceeded to go 3-and-out, if memory serves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Money coming in on the Bills on the betting sites. Its interesting always scares bettors when money goes heavy on one end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said: The Bills were not on the goal line. Josh was trying to get the 1st and get at least one more play to try and score a TD. If Josh had ran to his left he would have walked in for a TD. 31 minutes ago, RiotAct said: we won the coin toss in OT but then proceeded to go 3-and-out, if memory serves. After going balls to the wall in the 2nd half to tie it, they were lackadaisical with the opening drive if OT, imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Stadium Original Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 This game will come down to whether there was success in free agency and drafting by Beane in the offseason. At the end of the AFC Championship, it was obvious what areas the Bills needed to improve in. Did they? This is probably the best quarterback-receivers combination the Bills will have seen all season. And this time the Bills dont have Trey White. I guarantee the secondary wont be right on the hips of Pringle, Hill. Kelce et al on long developing pass plays. The will NEED sustained pressure on Mahommes to not let those plays devellop..without letting him run wild as well. Results of the experiment this Sunday night. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) While perusing The Athletic I saw the following and would like to make sure the Bills are aware of this. Straight up picks by these writers and only picked the Bills. Luckily, I'm not familiar with any of them. Personally I guess I should say as the line conveys, this is a pick em game. GO BILLS! Michael-Shawn Dugar Chiefs Nick Kosmider Bills Tashan Reed Chiefs Mark Kaboly Chiefs Chris Burke Chiefs Katherine Terrell Chiefs Edited January 20, 2022 by beerme1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said: The Bills were not on the goal line. Josh was trying to get the 1st and get at least one more play to try and score a TD. I rewatched it, you're right he was on the 2 not the 1, I was watching from the bar and my memory is a bit fuzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Man guys I hope we go down to KC and throttle the living *uck outta them… I’ve been all over reading forums watching YouTube content anything I can get my hands on and the disrespect for us and Josh Allen is just sickening and I’m sure you guys hear it to… I just hope we play like we’re capable of and show the world that we have the best quarterback in the league and not the Kansas City Cheifs…. The stats might say Mahomes is better but to the eye test it’s Allen… Josh is bigger stronger faster has a better arm runs over linebackers…. How people can sit there and talk like Josh Allen is so far below Mahomes and has a way to go is just stomach turning to me… Anyways Go Bills I’m f’en ready….. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, CapeBreton said: I’m glad to see Clyde Edwards-Helaire back at practice, I think he’s an average RB at best. Hope he’s in there more than McKinnon and Darrell Williams. Hard to believe they drafted CEH over the likes of Jonathan Taylor and D’andre Swift. Holy smokes. Can you imagine if they had drafted Taylor? They’d be about as close as you can get to unstoppable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Anyone else think that pretty much every one of those Josh Allen throws is better than every one of those Mahomes' throws? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Anyone else think that pretty much every one of those Josh Allen throws is better than every one of those Mahomes' throws? Those were some pretty weak selections. I could find 20 more impressive throws from Josh and I’m sure you can with Mahomes too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I got it..... I also pointed out their drives. They did great vs. Mahomes the first game, but Tannehill moved the ball when needed the second half. I did not take note of who was in the last TD drive (so sorry). But yes the defense is infallible according to all of you, so if you're not worried about Mahomes & the Chiefs, I guess I'm not....😜 Hyperbole much? Everyone on this board understands how dangerous and tough the Chiefs are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, beebe said: Tacking onto my earlier post revisiting the October Chiefs-Bills matchup, one thing that's of note is the Chiefs defense was actually able to get off the field quite a bit. And they did it without Chris Jones, no Melvin Ingram, no Charvarius Ward and a very limited Willie Gay (first game back from IR). The Bills had nine non-kneel down drives and punted on four of them (three 3-and-outs). -3 plays, minus 14 yards, punt -3 plays, 8 yards, punt -4 plays, 41 yards, punt -3 plays, 0 yards, punt Another drive would have ended with a 3-and-out but a 3rd-and-17 pass that was intercepted was nullified by a roughing the passer penalty. The Bills took advantage of that penalty and scored a game-sealing TD (when the rain started to fall, no less.) In the two 2020 matchups, the Bills had roughly ~20 'real' drives (I excluded, for instance, the 2-min drill Allen INT in the regular season meeting.) Out of those 20 drives, the Chiefs got the Bills off the field eight times (40 pct of the time). -6 plays, 26 yards, punt -5 plays, 10 yards, punt -3 plays, 7 yards, punt -12 plays, INT -3 plays, 0 yards, punt -8 plays, 21 yards, punt -4 plays, 17 yards, punt -3 plays, 5 yards, punt If the Bills play offense like they did vs the Patriots, or like they did in the October matchup vs Chiefs, then they are going to put up their fair share of points against KC's defense, even if KC plays perfect D. KC playing perfect defense won't stop Buffalo's offense. But KC's defense, even as pathetic as they were early in the season, seems to have a knack for getting off the field. They do it by playing press coverage, jamming receivers, throwing off your timing, by bringing heat from everywhere, and when Chris Jones is on the field, he can single-handedly blow up a drive (as we saw in AFC title game.) Going to be a fun game. Looking forward to it. Great research. I think our run game coming together really insulates us from the 3 and outs we have had historically. If we are in 3rd and short we can convert (KC is terrible in these situations). As for the josh pick, it did happen but after a really terrible holding call the play before wiped out a beautiful scramble. That roughing was the universe righting itself. Same thing this past weekend. Josh got lucky his throw away was caught cause the refs decided to not call the roughing the passer on that play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Slacks Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Maybe they were….. maybe teams have caught on a bit to what we do in those situations, maybe some players have lost focus in those tight situations compared to last season….I’m not sure, but I do know the offense has come up short in 4 of those 5 games with the ball and a chance to tie or take the lead…. Saying it’s purely luck and we just didn’t get the breaks seems ridiculous….. the Titans knew what the play was and where it was going on the QB sneak on 4th and 1(they said so themselves post game), Allen fumbled away a chance to tie/win the Jags game, self inflicted penalties at the end of the first pats game that moved them backwards in the red zone, and after storming back to tie the game against the Bucs they went 3 and out in OT before the Bucs got the ball and scored…. Just gotta hope the coaching staff and players are ready and more equipped mentally to prevail in a tight game. I’d say the Titans yes is on Josh. The play call is still argue was right. But Dawkins got blown up and Josh slipped. First NE game Josh put a dime on 3rd and 19 to Dawson Knox in the end zone in 50 mph wind. That game wasn’t lost on Josh. I wouldn’t even put it on coaching as the plays were there to be made but the players didn’t deliver. Several times. Tampa again Josh went for Diggs on final drive in 4th quarter. Diggs should have drawn a pass interference but that never happened. Yes we lost in OT but again plays were there to be had. I put that on the players. Jags our offensive line was horrendous. Not sure if Josh wasn’t checking to the right plays or what. I felt like that game he was trying to win the game with one throw and kept making it worse when all he had to do was play us into FG range. Agree or disagree with how those games played out we are where we are. But the Bills have been playing really good football lately. Even the games where Josh hasn’t been dominant. The O-line looks day and night different. The defense has been playing even better. That doesn’t translate to an automatic win this week but I feel really strongly about our chances. I feel more confident about Sunday than I do last year’s championship game. Im going to smoke some brisket, sit back, and enjoy the show as the rest of America learns first hand that we are the team to beat in the AFC. We’ve got a date with destiny. Enjoy being a fan this season cause Josh is about to turn it on for a run to the super bowl. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Mynamemike said: Those were some pretty weak selections. I could find 20 more impressive throws from Josh and I’m sure you can with Mahomes too. Most impressive throw of Allen’s career is still that TD pass to Diggs last year against the Patriots where he evaded pressure, rolled left and threw a 30+ yard dart moving left with defenders barreling in on him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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