Divisional Round: Buffalo at KC Sunday at 6:30

[Greg S]

10 minutes ago, bargepole said:

This might be the last time that the Bills play the KC Chiefs. They are under pressure to drop the name 'Chiefs' as it is considered insulting to Native American groups.

 

One of the leading professional rugby teams in England is the Exeter Chiefs, who use a headdress image as their logo, and various other native symbols. Following complaints from various Native American groups, they are set to drop all that at the end of the current season, and rebrand the franchise for 2022/23.

 

Does the same also apply to the Atlanta Braves? 

[eball]

Serious question for the X-and-O’ers on the forum…what’s your thinking regarding the Bills’ D and how they cope with all of KC’s speed this week?  I believe Allen and our O will continue to perform at a high level because of the balance and versatility we’ve shown, but crazy stuff happens and I’d like to think we can get a somewhat comfortable lead — that will depend upon how well the D can slow KC down.

 

[Dr. Who]

10 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Does the same also apply to the Atlanta Braves? 

Lived in Atlanta for over forty years, but recently moved. Have not heard any serious discussion of a name change.

And if the Blackhawks ever cave and get rid of the best sweater in hockey, shame on them.

[wjag]

My Tuesday, it's way too early game predictions:

 

1. Siran Neal will be deployed to slow down Kelce coming out of his breaks.  Holding called/not called on Kelce will be a big factor determining the outcome of this game.

2. KC OLINE will have a game not allowing a single sack of Patrick Mahomes.  

3. Weather will not be a factor in this game.

4. Buffalo wins TO battle 2-1.  

5. This game is won/lost by a FG.

6. Mahomes and Allen will combine for 700 yards passing and 6 TDs (rushing and throwing).

7. Bold Prediction: Bills Special Teams score a TD

8. Bold Prediction:  Hill gets a rushing TD or Mahomes gets a receiving TD.  

9. Neither team will approach 100 yards rushing by a RB.  Guessing both will be around 70 yards on 15-ish carries each.  Both QBs will break off at least one big rush pushing team rushing over 100 yards each.

10. Return of the Haackman.  Haack won't be a hack in this game and will pin the Chiefs deep.  Okay, this is more hopeful thinking.

Edited January 18, 2022 by wjag

[Fan in Chicago]

31 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

Coming off of 30+ point differential playoff HOME wins, teams that follow that up with a road playoff game are just 2-7.  

Cool stat but this is an example where data mining can be used to make anyone feel good or bad, depending on your intent. I would focus more on the matchups

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Cool stat but this is an example where data mining can be used to make anyone feel good or bad, depending on your intent. I would focus more on the matchups

Correct. Anyone who thinks the Bills' chances of victory are below 30% are trolling or not very bright.

[Steptide]

50 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

Coming off of 30+ point differential playoff HOME wins, teams that follow that up with a road playoff game are just 2-7.  

This doesn't surprise me actually. I was thinking about last year when the Ravens beat the titans before they played the bills. It was a big, emotional win for them, kinda similar to us destroying the Patriots this past weekend. I have no doubt the bills can win this Sunday, just can't let the Patriots win linger. 

 

I know the Ravens didn't beat the titans by 30, just that it was a big win for them 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Steptide

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, Steptide said:

This doesn't surprise me actually. I was thinking about last year when the Ravens beat the titans before they played the bills. It was a big, emotional win for them, kinda similar to us destroying the Patriots this past weekend. I have no doubt the bills can win this Sunday, just can't let the Patriots win linger. 

 

I know the Ravens didn't beat the titans by 30, just that it was a big win for them 

 

I don't believe in letdowns during the playoffs. If this were a regular season game then definitely. But the Bills got their eyes on the biggest prize now as its win or go home season. There is also the matter of getting even for last year's AFCCG. The Bills might lose on Sunday but it won't be because of a letdown.

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea… never understood the “we’re built to beat the Chiefs” narrative… I expect the defense to struggle for much of the game. This games on the offense to match the Chiefs drive for drive.

 

I think the Bills D can hold up against the Chiefs. The Steelers D scored and had a 7-0 lead midway thru the 2nd quarter. With the Steelers offense constantly punting it was only a matter of time before the Chiefs offense broke thru. The Bills O will do a much better job helping the D then the Steelers O did.

[Bookie Man]

The could fulfill the prophecy and become The Chefs. 

[stosh64]

What a difference in the quality of posts from TBD to chiefs planet.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=341906

I went to see what they had to say about the coming matchup and I didn't stay long.

Say what you want about TBD and TSW, but we have some top notch posters that keep me coming back.

Thanks to all our contributors for making this place what it is.

[stosh64]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

Coming off of 30+ point differential playoff HOME wins, teams that follow that up with a road playoff game are just 2-7.  

And before this year of the 4 teams in the conference championship never has all 4 made the playoffs the following year.

 

Until this year!    Lots of demons from the past may be exorcised this year.

 

Allen and the Bills are on a mission.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

55 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Cool stat but this is an example where data mining can be used to make anyone feel good or bad, depending on your intent. I would focus more on the matchups

That stat is probably just an overall reflection of home teams winning more than rod teams in the playoffs. But statistically, the NFL home field advantage has shrunk quite a bit over the last several years.

[Buffalo03]

The thing that excites me is this to me is gonna be the new Brady vs Manning for years to come. This is part 4 between the two and we will be getting part 5 next season. I'm so looking forward to this matchup and I'm hoping for a Bills win so badly

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

The thing that excites me is this to me is gonna be the new Brady vs Manning for years to come. This is part 4 between the two and we will be getting part 5 next season. I'm so looking forward to this matchup and I'm hoping for a Bills win so badly

 

You can also add Burrow and Herbert into the mix. The AFC has quite a few talented QB's already. If Jones and Wilson become the real deal then the AFCE is going to be one competitive division.

[eball]

22 minutes ago, Greg S said:

If Jones and Wilson become the real deal

 

If "real deal" = Andy Dalton 2.0, Jones has a chance.

[Son of a K-Gun]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

Let's assume KC kept the name "Chiefs" and put a firemans helmet as the logo....would that be disparaging?  If the crowd made siren noises, would that be degrading to firemen?  Should we make mascots of first responders?  ...

 

Let's just say that there are a number of racial/culturally insensitive names that could have a double-meaning and I am not about to give examples.  We can assume all we want about your team's name and the disparaging nature of it.  If the Washington team made their logo an overcooked tourist on the beach would that make their name any less disparaging?  Pretty weak argument dude.

[SirAndrew]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

If "real deal" = Andy Dalton 2.0, Jones has a chance.

Exactly, and I’m going to make a bold prediction. Wilson is a bust. Allen and the Bills are in real nice spot with the AFC East right now. 

[njbuff]

People who find the name “Chiefs” offensive really need to get a grip and find something useful to complain about.

 

Nothing whatsoever is disparaging about that name.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, stosh64 said:

What a difference in the quality of posts from TBD to chiefs planet.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=341906

I went to see what they had to say about the coming matchup and I didn't stay long.

Say what you want about TBD and TSW, but we have some top notch posters that keep me coming back.

Thanks to all our contributors for making this place what it is.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

Coming off of 30+ point differential playoff HOME wins, teams that follow that up with a road playoff game are just 2-7.  

 

Please don't be that guy.  This type of stuff is meaningless.  Its like the Pats fan earlier in the season trying to prove his team was better than the Bills by saying they played a tougher schedule when they really didn't.

 

The only thing that's going to matter is execution and coaching decisions.  These are the two best teams in the NFL IMO and it can go either way.  The stat above has nothing to do with it.

[Greg S]

11 minutes ago, njbuff said:

People who find the name “Chiefs” offensive really need to get a grip and find something useful to complain about.

 

Nothing whatsoever is disparaging about that name.

 

I hope the Blackhawks aren't forced to change their name/logo. IMHO they have the best logo in hockey.

[Rockinon]

11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

And Singletary is 4th. Add in the great things McKenzie has been doing and this offense could really go off against this team. I really think the Bills are going to dominate in this one. I'd be curious about KC's stats on defense in recent weeks. Honestly don't think they are going to be able to keep up with us instead of the other way around. Yes, losing Tre hurt, but so far it doesn't look like there has been a drop off. The Dline is stepping up, the secondary is stepping up and the LBs are too. This will be an interesting matchup for sure. On offense, there are a lot of names that pop out too. McKenzie, Knox, the entire OL, Allen, Diggs, Davis, Singletary. It seems like everyone is producing in big ways. KC could very well be running into a meat grinder.

[dave mcbride]

2 hours ago, eball said:

Serious question for the X-and-O’ers on the forum…what’s your thinking regarding the Bills’ D and how they cope with all of KC’s speed this week?  I believe Allen and our O will continue to perform at a high level because of the balance and versatility we’ve shown, but crazy stuff happens and I’d like to think we can get a somewhat comfortable lead — that will depend upon how well the D can slow KC down.

 

My concern is that the Bills not-particularly-athletic CBs will be exposed in a big way. In the first game, they had White man-to-man on Kelce for most of the game and doubled Hill. Neither had a 20-yard catch and while their numbers were OK, they were mostly contained. Neither Kelce nor Hill averaged 10 ypc. I simply don't think Jackson can handle Kelce. It'll be interesting to see what scheme Frazier comes up with because the Chiefs offense presents a real challenge to them with White gone. 

1 minute ago, Rockinon said:

And Singletary is 4th. Add in the great things McKenzie has been doing and this offense could really go off against this team. I really think the Bills are going to dominate in this one. I'd be curious about KC's stats on defense in recent weeks. Honestly don't think they are going to be able to keep up with us instead of the other way around. Yes, losing Tre hurt, but so far it doesn't look like there has been a drop off. The Dline is stepping up, the secondary is stepping up and the LBs are too. This will be an interesting matchup for sure. On offense, there are a lot of names that pop out too. McKenzie, Knox, the entire OL, Allen, Diggs, Davis, Singletary. It seems like everyone is producing in big ways. KC could very well be running into a meat grinder.

There hasn't been a drop-off from White because outside of TB they Bills haven't really played a good passing attack. KC will be the best passing attack they've faced by far in the past 5 games. 

[Mango]

He gets flamed on this board sometimes, but I really like Shannon Sharp. He is one of the better talking heads.

[eball]

40 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

My concern is that the Bills not-particularly-athletic CBs will be exposed in a big way. In the first game, they had White man-to-man on Kelce for most of the game and doubled Hill. Neither had a 20-yard catch and while their numbers were OK, they were mostly contained. Neither Kelce nor Hill averaged 10 ypc. I simply don't think Jackson can handle Kelce. It'll be interesting to see what scheme Frazier comes up with because the Chiefs offense presents a real challenge to them with White gone. 

 

Thanks for responding.  Yes, that is my concern also, which is why I'm asking what folks think they will do.

[Bermuda Triangle]

43 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

My concern is that the Bills not-particularly-athletic CBs will be exposed in a big way. In the first game, they had White man-to-man on Kelce for most of the game and doubled Hill. Neither had a 20-yard catch and while their numbers were OK, they were mostly contained. Neither Kelce nor Hill averaged 10 ypc. I simply don't think Jackson can handle Kelce. It'll be interesting to see what scheme Frazier comes up with because the Chiefs offense presents a real challenge to them with White gone. 

 

Maybe Siran Neal on Kelce?

[Warcodered]

 

 

[Paul Costa]

57 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Please don't be that guy.  This type of stuff is meaningless.  Its like the Pats fan earlier in the season trying to prove his team was better than the Bills by saying they played a tougher schedule when they really didn't.

 

The only thing that's going to matter is execution and coaching decisions.  These are the two best teams in the NFL IMO and it can go either way.  The stat above has nothing to do with it.

Teams that play during the regular season and then play again in the playoffs, the winner of that game wins the playoff game 68% of the time. Pretty dumb to use small sample sizes to predict who is going to win. 

[Mynamemike]

54 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

My concern is that the Bills not-particularly-athletic CBs will be exposed in a big way. In the first game, they had White man-to-man on Kelce for most of the game and doubled Hill. Neither had a 20-yard catch and while their numbers were OK, they were mostly contained. Neither Kelce nor Hill averaged 10 ypc. I simply don't think Jackson can handle Kelce. It'll be interesting to see what scheme Frazier comes up with because the Chiefs offense presents a real challenge to them with White gone. 

There hasn't been a drop-off from White because outside of TB they Bills haven't really played a good passing attack. KC will be the best passing attack they've faced by far in the past 5 games. 

I see them using Taron on Kelce and doubling Hill again.  We need Milano to stay with their running backs like a fly on *****.

[Mango]

Looking at this weekends schedule again, I really thought Buffalo v. KC  would be the Saturday night game and Rams v. TB would be Sunday Night. It is a more compelling match up and bigger markets than GB v SF. 

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, Mynamemike said:

I see them using Taron on Kelce and doubling Hill again.  We need Milano to stay with their running backs like a fly on *****.

 

I think this is probably it as well. The next best CB the Bills have is Taron Johnson. He takes over covering Kelce and double Hill with the CB and one of the safeties every play. If Hardeman, Pringle beat you then so be it. 

[Warcodered]

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

58 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

My concern is that the Bills not-particularly-athletic CBs will be exposed in a big way. In the first game, they had White man-to-man on Kelce for most of the game and doubled Hill. Neither had a 20-yard catch and while their numbers were OK, they were mostly contained. Neither Kelce nor Hill averaged 10 ypc. I simply don't think Jackson can handle Kelce. It'll be interesting to see what scheme Frazier comes up with because the Chiefs offense presents a real challenge to them with White gone. 

 

I really think that a big part of how we adjusted in that game, and hopefully what we will see in this game, was a more aggressive pass rush.  I believe the key to this game will be our D-Line applying constant pressure on Mahomes.  That will require scheme, as well as intensity up front.  They brought the heat last game after Tre left, probably partially due to added adrenaline based on the situation, but hopefully they can match that intensity on Sunday.  

 

This Defense was built to beat the Chiefs.  Time to deliver.

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

A Devin Singletary tweet disguised as a Josh Allen tweet disguised as a Rashaad Penny tweet. 

 

Singletary is the top RB left on that list whose team is still alive in the playoffs. Running hard and racking up those TDs, you love to see it. 

[BRH]

3 hours ago, bargepole said:

This might be the last time that the Bills play the KC Chiefs. They are under pressure to drop the name 'Chiefs' as it is considered insulting to Native American groups.

 

One of the leading professional rugby teams in England is the Exeter Chiefs, who use a headdress image as their logo, and various other native symbols. Following complaints from various Native American groups, they are set to drop all that at the end of the current season, and rebrand the franchise for 2022/23.

 

As a proud Penfield Chief who of course detests the replacement mascot (Patriots 🤮), I have never seen anything wrong with the name.  The tomahawk chop, however, is just as offensive as Chief Wahoo was in Cleveland and Chief Noc-a-Homa was in Atlanta.

[Warcodered]

15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Reid and McDermott could not be any more different with their health and fitness. I remember during the draft footage the Bills put out from last year and Kim Pegula made cookies and the whole staff was eating them in the war room and McDermott was eating Raisin Bran.

 

 

Saw this in some of the coverage for the upcoming game and it made me think, this is a terrible analogy.

 

People like/enjoy cake, hell some people love it I guess, but people don't need cake.

 

If the Chiefs are a team that's like "Yes I'd enjoy a second piece of cake." the Bills are a man dying of thirst that sees a glass of water.

[Big Turk]

10 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Screw that. Act like they’ve been there.

I see you are a disciple of the "No Fun League"

[NewEra]

15 hours ago, Rockinon said:

KC going off on an inferior opponent in Pittsburgh isn't news. Let's see how they do against the #1 defense. Their defense is going to try to bring heat and pressure Josh. It's not going to work. Buffalo has everyone healthy on the OL and in case no one has noticed, Tommy Doyle is now the blocking TE. That's right. An extra OT is blocking for Josh and Singletary. What Buffalo did to a top 5 defense last week was amazing. What do you think they are going to do to this poser KC Defense? This game should result in about the same outcome as the regular season game. A Buffalo win. KC can open up their bag of tricks on offense if they want. In fact, please do....

We should be able to do the same thing and maybe more vs KC.  
 

The difference in defenses Imo, is speed and impact pass rushers.  Judon is an impact pass rusher but he hasn’t had an impact in months.  Barmore was coming off a knee injury.  
 

The chiefs are faster in the secondary and LBers.   Watching Hightower crawl around out there was embarrassing.  Bentley shouldn’t be in the NFL.  Jojuan Williams is slow af.  Duggar had a club.  

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

I simply don't think Jackson can handle Kelce

 

I thought he did an admirable job covering Gronkowski and Pitts. He gave up one big completion to Pitts but that will happen to anyone eventually. Jackson struggles against double moves and sudden change in direction but that's not as important against TEs.