NewEra Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, sherpa said: Our offensive playmakers are faster than the Pat's defensive back seven. That is our advantage. That is what we should take advantage of. Nothing Bill can do about that. He can play zone and get pressure on the QB. If I’m BB, I’m aggressive and make josh throw deep, especially on 3rd down. Getting pressure and keeping containment is the key to the pats winning imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 6:27 PM, Sharky7337 said: Now they're saying Josh Allen can't beat them, the bills are the best draw for them. The bills are one dimensional. They talk about it near the end around 6:10 these analysts are pretty good and seem intellectually honest. I noticed Mac Jones body language and his brady like effort after throwing the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, NewEra said: He can play zone and get pressure on the QB. He can play zone all he wants. That won't diminish the Bills' speed advantage. "Getting pressure" is not a choice, it's a capability. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Yeah?.......and what have you done for me lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 The latest chapter from the "How to Cheat at Football" book, by Bill Belicheat, was relayed by Ross Tucker yesterday on OBL. He said that they would practice on the playing field all week, ripping it up and making it terrible, because Belicheat wanted it that way. Ross also said the groundskeeper resigned because Belicheat would not let him do his job and fix the field. Belicheat wanted the field chewed up as much as possible, because the Cheats would know all the bad spots, soft spots, uneven spots, etc. Dude wasn't above manipulating the field conditions on his own home field. Brownie just sighed and said he wasn't surprised that Belicheat would do that. He truly is the GCOAT (the C stands for "Cheater" folks, not "Coach"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: The latest chapter from the "How to Cheat at Football" book, by Bill Belicheat, was relayed by Ross Tucker yesterday on OBL. He said that they would practice on the playing field all week, ripping it up and making it terrible, because Belicheat wanted it that way. Ross also said the groundskeeper resigned because Belicheat would not let him do his job and fix the field. Belicheat wanted the field chewed up as much as possible, because the Cheats would know all the bad spots, soft spots, uneven spots, etc. Dude wasn't above manipulating the field conditions on his own home field. Brownie just sighed and said he wasn't surprised that Belicheat would do that. He truly is the GCOAT (the C stands for "Cheater" folks, not "Coach"). Cheater? Or the only guy in a league filled with dumb coaches who actually looks for--and finds--every single advantage to be manipulated in his favor? Are there rules against chewing up the field? No? Then it's not cheating. Is that a semi-clever tactic designed to give his team a slight edge? Then it's clever in my book, not cheating. He looks for every last edge he can find---I admire it in him. The problem isn't that BB does it; the problem is that everyone else in the league DOES NOT. They should ALL be doing this stuff, routinely. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Cheater? Or the only guy in a league filled with dumb coaches who actually looks for--and finds--every single advantage to be manipulated in his favor? Are there rules against chewing up the field? No? Then it's not cheating. Is that a semi-clever tactic designed to give his team a slight edge? Then it's clever in my book, not cheating. He looks for every last edge he can find---I admire it in him. The problem isn't that BB does it; the problem is that everyone else in the league DOES NOT. They should ALL be doing this stuff, routinely. I’d normally agree with you but ripping the field up is a big player safety concern so that definitely crosses the line…and various other things he’s been accused of can 100% be classified as cheating and every story like this one that comes out makes those accusations a little more credible. theres definitely a fine line between gamesmanship and cheating and the pats are allegedly according to droves of past players and coaches even some from the patriots organization would tell you they’re frequently on the wrong side of it for example something like going into the opposing teams hotel and looking for play sheets is kind of hilarious and I have no problem with that. But fiddling with radio frequency stuff which they’ve been accused of many times is flat out cheating Edited January 13, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 6:33 PM, Motorin' said: Suck on this dumbass... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, gordong said: Suck on this dumbass... what is there for the bills d to even suck on? At best the pats have an efficient but ball control type offense there really isn’t a ton of upside there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 6:33 PM, Motorin' said: Wait you started a thread on something said after the Buffalo game in BUFFALO? I’d dare say everyone would agree it was a terrible game for the Bills. Doesn’t have anything do with Saturday.. Saturday the cold MAY cause more drops but that’s probably it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) On 1/11/2022 at 8:21 AM, ArtVandalay said: This was after the Pats win and after Hyde and Poyer threw a hissy fit postgame. Totally deserved this comment. He's not wrong, it's true. It was entirely embarrassing. McDermott was comically out coached then after the game gave no credit to Belichick, threw players and coordinator under the bus. It was bizarre and terrible. We didn't adjust at all during the game and it cost us. Keep running 4 linemen out there, and the Pats literally kept running some of the same plays over and over and out wasn't until 4Q that Milano finally started blowing out up. That game was a total embarrassment. They have every right to mock us. Really? If JA and Bills score either of the two red zone possessions in Q4, the Bills win. Then the narrative is what was BB doing ? Only 3 passes and that cost his team the game. Also Bills media doesn’t typically kick opponents post game. It’s very Boston arrogant. And it’s why the league hates them. Bills will bury Pats on Saturday because they are the better team. BB is a .500 coach without Tommy. What you won’t see is Pats media owing up post game. Rodney Harrison, TJ, TB, and now Edelman all National embarrassing Pats homers. This marks the end of Pats domination and I’m glad we are playing them. Edited January 13, 2022 by QLBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Cheater? Or the only guy in a league filled with dumb coaches who actually looks for--and finds--every single advantage to be manipulated in his favor? Are there rules against chewing up the field? No? Then it's not cheating. Is that a semi-clever tactic designed to give his team a slight edge? Then it's clever in my book, not cheating. He looks for every last edge he can find---I admire it in him. The problem isn't that BB does it; the problem is that everyone else in the league DOES NOT. They should ALL be doing this stuff, routinely. When you look in the rule book it should not have to say injuring other players is illegal for you not to do it. But your comment completely ignores the blatant rule breaking the Pats* did. The one that annoys me is the Raven game in the playoffs where they blatantly broke rule 5.2 but the officials refused to call it. Since then the NFL has made the rule clearer but the officials should have called illegal formation each time they pulled that crap. 5.2 Position of the Players at the Snap 5.2.1 The offensive team must have the following in their formation: (a) No more and no less than seven players on its line of scrimmage at the snap. (b) All players who are not on the line, other than the snap receiver under center, must be no farther than 5 yards from the line of scrimmage at the snap. (c) All guards, tackles and tight ends must be at least 1/2 yard behind the center. (d) Offensive linemen must be ½ base lengths for minimum distance (e) The QB can be positioned under the center or up to a maximum of 15 yards from the line of scrimmage 5.2.2 The Line Progression will be in the following manner: 1 Center, 2Guards, 3Tackles, 4Tight Ends, 5Wide Receivers, 6QB, 7Running Backs This will insure a constant progression, which limits stall tactics. Once the line progression is adhered to and the defense has been set, the roll of the dice dictates the blocking schemes. The coach looks at the blocking schemes and adapt accordingly. Once the offense has made the necessary adjustments, the defense is allowed one change to counter in a 3:1 audible ratio. If the play changes the position of the players altogether, for every offensive skilled player that position changes, the defense in turn, will change that position as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Wait you started a thread on something said after the Buffalo game in BUFFALO? I’d dare say everyone would agree it was a terrible game for the Bills. Doesn’t have anything do with Saturday.. Saturday the cold MAY cause more drops but that’s probably it. I still don’t see that game the way those Boston dudes describe it lol so I guess I would disagree on some points. y’all crossed midfield 3 times all game and scored 14 points and are selling it as some kind of ‘like tyson fighting an infant’ type scenario 😂 Edited January 13, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 On 1/12/2022 at 3:01 PM, NewEra said: He can play zone and get pressure on the QB. If I’m BB, I’m aggressive and make josh throw deep, especially on 3rd down. Getting pressure and keeping containment is the key to the pats winning imo. Good luck playing zone AND getting pressure on Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Beast said: Good luck playing zone AND getting pressure on Allen. You don’t think they can get pressure on us if they play zone? Explain why? You can play zone and bring more than 4 you know? Let’s not forget that just a couple weeks ago, our OL sucked and was ruining our season. They’re playing much better recently, thankfully, but I could see Judon taking Spencer Brown to school and Barmore doing the same to Bates or Morse. Brown has been below average in pass pro. It’s a game of matchups and our OL hasn’t always been up to the task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I hate the whole "bills rely on Allen too much" narrative. It's honestly the worst take in sports Imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I love people saying the pressure will get to Allen in this game on the patriots message board. It's not like he's put the team on his back to win a playoff game.... oh wait?!?! Allen almost single handedly won the Indy game last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: You don’t think they can get pressure on us if they play zone? Explain why? You can play zone and bring more than 4 you know? Let’s not forget that just a couple weeks ago, our OL sucked and was ruining our season. They’re playing much better recently, thankfully, but I could see Judon taking Spencer Brown to school and Barmore doing the same to Bates or Morse. Brown has been below average in pass pro. It’s a game of matchups and our OL hasn’t always been up to the task. Because the Bills have a much better WR/TE corps than the Patriots do DB/LB and Allen has great escapabilty. I hope the Patriots do what you say. They won't get pressure with their d-line alone. No way. Then they will have to blitz to bring that pressure and Allen excells when being blitzed and there will be holes throughout the short to mid zone area. I have a lot more faith in our o-line than you do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beast said: Because the Bills have a much better WR/TE corps than the Patriots do DB/LB and Allen has great escapabilty. I hope the Patriots do what you say. They won't get pressure with their d-line alone. No way. Then they will have to blitz to bring that pressure and Allen excells when being blitzed and there will be holes throughout the short to mid zone area. I have a lot more faith in our o-line than you do. Lol….for s**** and giggles, enlighten me. You’re saying that, because our WRs/TE are better than their DBs/LBs that the pats can’t get pressure on us…..because the only way they can get pressure is by blitzing and Josh allen is undefeated vs the blitz. Nice. so basically, there is no defense that can stop us now and it doesn’t matter what any coaches do scheme wise.to confuse us/get pressure. Josh is a god. I agree. Why did he suck so bad vs the falcons defense? you’re over confidant. I feel we’ll win, but I also give BB credit for being a great coach with the ability to screw up an offenses day if his players execute. They held us to 10 points just a few weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltaBillsFan Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 1/12/2022 at 1:44 PM, corta765 said: Fans like you are pathetic and insecure. Virtually every team out there is always trying to find ways to get the next advantage possible and will cross the line until their slapped. The big reason the Pats beat the Bills routinely is because of the guy at QB and the talent BB maximized with his system while Buffalo was a doormat of awfulness. If Buffalo had a QB like Allen and coach like McD earlier the scorecard isn't as lopsided. Also take a look at the last two years of games and you'll see Pat fans are now complaining that we get away with stuff. "Fans like you are pathetic and insecure." are personal attacks like this ok on this site? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Can someone post this Patriots show this week? Cannot wait for these clowns to talk about the Bills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 8:22 PM, MaltaBillsFan said: "Fans like you are pathetic and insecure." are personal attacks like this ok on this site? Why would it bother you that some random person called you pathetic? If he threatens you I would say cause for alarm but that is just juvenile name-calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I feel like this deserves its own thread because it's definitely great bulletin board material. This guy is an idiot. I have the link here starting at the relevant time (keep watching; it gets worse). Nice to see Matt Cassell defending the Bills though. 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 They'll never play their best football until they get a dome, either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I love the fact that everyone else was basically looking at him like he was an idiot. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I'm glad my career is in a place where I don't need to call attention to myself this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I don't see why this would be bulletin material, at all. This guy is a nobody and is clearly just not very bright. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Matt Cassell has never been so accurate... 1 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I feel like this deserves its own thread because it's definitely great bulletin board material. This guy is an idiot. I have the link here starting at the relevant time (keep watching; it gets worse). Nice to see Matt Cassell defending the Bills though. Aaaaaaand it gets merged right away. Come on, guys. 3 minutes ago, Process said: I don't see why this would be bulletin material, at all. This guy is a nobody and is clearly just not very bright. He's really not a nobody. He has a national show on Peacock and SiriusXM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I feel like this deserves its own thread because it's definitely great bulletin board material. This guy is an idiot. I have the link here starting at the relevant time (keep watching; it gets worse). Nice to see Matt Cassell defending the Bills though. “”Kind of (beat a playoff team)” What an idiot ….. #1 Defense, Arguably the best QB in the league, an arsenal of skill players, …. Give me a break. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 So…the bills haven’t gotten better. The pats just got worse. Neat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I feel like this deserves its own thread because it's definitely great bulletin board material. This guy is an idiot. I have the link here starting at the relevant time (keep watching; it gets worse). Nice to see Matt Cassell defending the Bills though. Holy crap that was something to watch. Dude is obviously a homer and incredibly salty because his team got whooped, but he continually contradicted himself from one sentence to the next. WHEN the Bills win the super bowl, I want every Buffalo/Rochester sports show to call this guy until he gets on someone’s show and eats a ton of crow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Aaaaaaand it gets merged right away. Come on, guys. He's really not a nobody. He has a national show on Peacock and SiriusXM. What’s his show on Sirius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 12:27 AM, Sharky7337 said: Now they're saying Josh Allen can't beat them, the bills are the best draw for them. The bills are one dimensional. They talk about it near the end around 6:10 Okay, this is beautiful to watch now. Ted Johnson is a complete tool and his comments are hilarious ("I don't trust Josh Allen to put up back to back games like that against the Pats") 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 When Michael Holley meets a fact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 In fairness…he is not wrong in pointing out we did lose 4 games to teams in the playoffs (Pitt, Tenn, Bucs, Pats) than we beat (Chiefs and KC). And also had 2 embarrassing losses to Jags and Colts. So to me, this isn’t like Nick Wright kind of click bait, just seems to be a guy not sold on us against better teams. However, he is NOT consistent in how he assesses teams. He claims he doesn’t want to be pinned down about saying Pats were good earlier in the year. Now claims it’s about what he sees now, that they aren’t good and that they collapsed after bye and there is a story there we don’t know yet. But at the same time does NOT do the same for the Bills seeing what they have now done in their last 5 games. Bills have demolished Pats twice and also found consistency and balance with an emerging run game while playing outstanding defense. If he is going to adjust his assessments based on how teams are playing recently, there is NO WAY he can look at the Bills and say they aren’t that good. But he is holding on to his bias until he is utterly forced to change it. And that won’t happen until we beat a proven threat like KC next week. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 These guys are eating so much crow right now …. At the 6:40 mark: “Josh Allen can’t put up two good games back to back. They’re (the Bills) one dimensional” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, teef said: So…the bills haven’t gotten better. The pats just got worse. Neat. The psychology of this stuff is fascinating. I'm sure we're as guilty as other people but it's easier to spot in other people. This whole "the Pats blew it" rather than "the Bills kicked their asses" is what I expected from them. It's similar with fans around the league too. Earlier I looked at a Browns forum because I was interested to see what they were saying about Allen with regards to Baker. A number of Browns fans were discussing Allen during the game but laying all the credit at the feet of his o-line. They then claimed Baker has a terrible o-line and if Allen played on the Browns he'd be run out of the league. It's easier to fabricate a false explanation for your sorrows than admitting your franchise made a mistake or got outright beaten up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, teef said: So…the bills haven’t gotten better. The pats just got worse. Neat. Well...if that's that tack they want to take then all roads lead to Belichick. I'd equally love to hear Boston turn on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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