Buffalo #1 NFL City ... for Bad Weather as per The Weather Channel

[LabattBlue]

12 minutes ago, Utah John said:

I thought Buffalo was cold when I lived there but having lived in Laramie Wyoming (before Josh was even born), Omaha Nebraska, and now Alaska I can tell you there are far colder places.  Lots of snow in Buffalo of course, and of course the accumulation depends on where you live as others have said. 

 

Strictly from a PR perspective, it would be better if the new stadium was inside Buffalo to avoid most of the big lake effect storms, but if the wind is from the southwest instead of the south, downtown can get nailed too.

 

But so what.  Yes it snows there.  It's SERIOUSLY cold here (Fairbanks Alaska) where we fortunately warmed up to -1F a couple of days ago and will be close to -30F again on Saturday night.  And it's dark, with only a few hours of daylight.  We had snow this year in September, while it was still summer.  And it chills your heart to know that winter isn't here yet.  And the winters are LONG -- we'll have deep snow on the ground until early May. 

 

There are a lot of celebrities who act as if the only two places in the country where a person could live are downstate New York and southern California.  Other people think the only places where a person could live are NFL cities, and so comparisons like this article are important for some reason.  It is what it is.  You live where you live for a variety of reasons, and which reasons are most important depends on your personal preferences.  

 

 

Well duh…you live in friggin’ Alaska.  😂

[Supe]

Yet, except for the Indy game, we haven’t had a true blizzard on a football Sunday afternoon in recent memory. Even when the Jets game was moved to Detroit, the blizzard had already ended by game time. 

[Big Turk]

15 minutes ago, Utah John said:

I thought Buffalo was cold when I lived there but having lived in Laramie Wyoming (before Josh was even born), Omaha Nebraska, and now Alaska I can tell you there are far colder places.  Lots of snow in Buffalo of course, and of course the accumulation depends on where you live as others have said. 

 

Strictly from a PR perspective, it would be better if the new stadium was inside Buffalo to avoid most of the big lake effect storms, but if the wind is from the southwest instead of the south, downtown can get nailed too.

 

But so what.  Yes it snows there.  It's SERIOUSLY cold here (Fairbanks Alaska) where we fortunately warmed up to -1F a couple of days ago and will be close to -30F again on Saturday night.  And it's dark, with only a few hours of daylight.  We had snow this year in September, while it was still summer.  And it chills your heart to know that winter isn't here yet.  And the winters are LONG -- we'll have deep snow on the ground until early May. 

 

There are a lot of celebrities who act as if the only two places in the country where a person could live are downstate New York and southern California.  Other people think the only places where a person could live are NFL cities, and so comparisons like this article are important for some reason.  It is what it is.  You live where you live for a variety of reasons, and which reasons are most important depends on your personal preferences.  

 

 

 

Surprisingly tho, Juneau, AK actually has almost the exact same winter climate as we do, even tho it is much farther north because of the warmer ocean waters it sits near...in some cases, it is warmer in the winter than we are here!  But the rest of Alaska...forget it...especially the places up near Barrow...brrrr....

21 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

This Buffalo you speak of seems to be a very appealing place to visit. I must make a plan to visit sometime, preferably in December - February.

 

Haha...come in the summer...best weather in the US and tons of festivals.

Edited November 26, 2021 by Big Turk

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, Utah John said:

I bounced around at UB through various college majors before taking an intro to meteorology course offered by the physics department.  I was hooked, and I never looked back.  Had to transfer to SUNY Albany to pursue the major.  It was a great career, taking me to places all over the country.  I hope whatever you settled on has worked out as well for you as meteorology did for me.  

 

Super cool! I am now a software engineer, which is my passion!  Took me until I was almost 40 to find it, but better late than never!

[SirAndrew]

9 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

For years and years - every study shows the same thing - Buffalo is top 1 or 2 for wind during NFL games and has one of the most difficult stadiums to kick and thrown in because of how that wind comes across the stadium and swirls.

 

Buffalo is the snowiest NFL stadium for games and is near the top in rain and precipitation for all venues.  Small amounts of snow are not a big deal, but rain and heavy snow has major impacts - especially when combined with the wind.

 

Buffalo is one of the coldest cities - although GB is and can be colder - it doesn’t combine all of the other weather the way Buffalo does.

 

Buffalo is by far the worst NFL city for weather and we have a chance to fix that any of multiple ways.  A new OP stadium built with better wind and weather blocking and built at a proper angle and not dug down - will all help with the wind, but does little for the rain and snow and temperatures.

 

A covered stadium fixes all 3 issues.

 

A downtown stadium likely also helps as there is less wind and the stadium design can help, there is significantly less snow and the temperature is warmer closer to the water.

 

There are so many good options to adjust this, but most likely we will stay status Quo and remain a place no one can play at their peak level.

 

 

Agree, I’m over the rain more than anything. There’s just too many negative weather possibilities at the current site. It’s either rain, snow, cold, or wind. I don’t need perfect weather, but too often it’s just terrible. I don’t have seasons, but seem to end up going to many October and November games for some reason. I think it rained the last seven or eight times I’ve gone. 

[ProcessTruster]

forecast for MNF looks pretty bleak; probably around freezing by halftime; few inches of snow.  i guess that is to be expected.   was thinking on coming up for it, but nah, I got pretty cold at Jets game in NYC and that was low/mid 40's and some sun.   gettin old i guess.

[Mr. K]

Would we still be on the list if we played in a dome?

[HOUSE]

This explains the snow on my driveway

[chongli]

Quick summary of the video if this hasn't been posted already:

 

Worst weather cites:

 

 

1. Buffalo

2. Green Bay

3. Cleveland

4. Miami

5. Pittsburgh

 

Based on 5 weather factors gathered from the National Weather Service 1991-2020:

 

heat, precipitation, snow, cold, wind

 

Only outdoors stadiums were considered (20 in all), not domes or those with retractable roofs.

15 minutes ago, Mr. K said:

Would we still be on the list if we played in a dome?

 

No,  according to the conditions given in the video. No dome or retractable roofs allowed.

[Bferra13]

1 hour ago, BTB said:

Today in WNY…cold, gray, windy and snow flurries…depending on where you are at, much more than flurries. 
 

In one word…depressing. 😞

I'm good with it. Must affect people differently. If you're not used to it by now, you never will be. I know what I signed up for.

Edited November 26, 2021 by Bferra13

[In Summary]

Yet, these five criteria selected by the heat and humidity loving folks in Atlanta have little effect on Bills fan enthusiasm.  How could this be?  Just another lazy piece of content that equates football weather with a day at the beach. 

[JDubya76]

I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya!

[Robert Paulson]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I have to say, this seems so over-played.

 

In December and January, MOST of this country is cold and crappy.  I'm not sure it's any worse in Orchard Park, especially if there is no storm at the moment.

 

Also: parts of this country (Green Bay, Chicago, Minneapolis) are FREAKING COLD in the winter time...they routinely get much colder air than Buffalo does, thanks to the lake.

 

On a non-storm kind of day, I'd rather be in Buffalo than Green Bay or Chicago, with minus 3 outside air temps.

 

It just doesn't get that cold in WNY typically.

 

 

agreed, I've lived in Chicago and now Appleton which is 30 minutes SW of Lambeau.

 

Chicago is 10 degrees colder in winter and Appleton is 20 degrees colder. Jan-March absolutely sucks. routinely does not get above 0 for a high in Jan-Feb/snow never melts because it never gets above freezing either when it warms up a little and March never ends. In Buffalo St Patty's day is pretty much the end of winter but you have another month here- it just drags on. 

 

I'll take snow 3x/week over cold any year. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Robert Paulson

[hondo in seattle]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Actually Boston is windier than we are...average winds in Buffalo are 11.8 mph to 12.3 mph for Boston

 

I'm surprised.  I was certain Buffalo was the NFL's windiest city.  But, in fact, you are right: we're currently second to Boston but still windier than the so-called, "Windy City."  

 

[Wacka]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

Green Bay and Chicago seem to have more snow games than we have.  
 

The wind is getting ridiculous though.  Every pregame it’s a conversation piece.  Hopefully our next stadium has designs to address this even if it won’t likely be a dome. 

The  media in the Indy game was talking about the wind and rain.  Barely any wind and light rain that day. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Wacka

[Dr. Who]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Actually Boston is windier than we are...average winds in Buffalo are 11.8 mph to 12.3 mph for Boston

That's because of all the blowhard bandwagon Patriot* fans.

[SF Bills Fan]

I really thought it would be Tampa

[SirAndrew]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I'm surprised.  I was certain Buffalo was the NFL's windiest city.  But, in fact, you are right: we're currently second to Boston but still windier than the so-called, "Windy City."  

 

I didn’t realize we have more wind than Chicago. “Buffalo is warmer than Chicago” seems to be a common defense mechanism in WNY, throws that one away, considering our average January highs are about identical to Chicago. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by SirAndrew

[klos63]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I'm surprised.  I was certain Buffalo was the NFL's windiest city.  But, in fact, you are right: we're currently second to Boston but still windier than the so-called, "Windy City."  

 

Chicago isn't called the 'Windy City' because of weather. It originated long time ago because of all the big time politicians talking all the time 'big bags of wind'.  At least that is one theory.

 

Just a little tibit for ya.

[Eastport bills]

Bills need a retractable roof stadium for this team as it's constructed. Open air for the most part and domed when necessary. Build it and watch this city get a SB and be a destination. 

[klos63]

10 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:

Bills need a retractable roof stadium for this team as it's constructed. Open air for the most part and domed when necessary. Build it and watch this city get a SB and be a destination. 

I think every team should have a retractable roof and the league should pay for it. It's to the benefit of everyone.

[Augie]

3 hours ago, chongli said:

Quick summary of the video if this hasn't been posted already:

 

Worst weather cites:

 

 

1. Buffalo

2. Green Bay

3. Cleveland

4. Miami

5. Pittsburgh

 

Based on 5 weather factors gathered from the National Weather Service 1991-2020:

 

heat, precipitation, snow, cold, wind

 

Only outdoors stadiums were considered (20 in all), not domes or those with retractable roofs.

 

No,  according to the conditions given in the video. No dome or retractable roofs allowed.

 

I was glad to see Miami on the list. Going to a game there before Halloween could kill you. I love the heat, but I’ve been to games in Tampa and Jacksonville that were absolutely unbearable!  The seats emptied and people watched on monitors in the concourses to get out of the sun. I’ve turned down free tickets early in the season in Florida. 

 

On a side note, I think @Gugny should be sent to the Miami home opener for stirring the dome pot. That guy is a regular rabble rouser! 

[Nextmanup]

20 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:

Bills need a retractable roof stadium for this team as it's constructed. Open air for the most part and domed when necessary. Build it and watch this city get a SB and be a destination. 

We could get a stadium twice as big, nice, and expensive as SO-FI out in LA (the jewel of them all IMO) and there would still be no chance in hell of the Super Bowl coming to WNY.

 

 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Dome please

[Eastport bills]

41 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

We could get a stadium twice as big, nice, and expensive as SO-FI out in LA (the jewel of them all IMO) and there would still be no chance in hell of the Super Bowl coming to WNY.

 

 

Don't be so sure. Minneapolis got one and Western NY could draw from Canada,Cleveland, NYC, as well as fans from both teams. 

[SoCal Deek]

5 hours ago, BTB said:

Today in WNY…cold, gray, windy and snow flurries…depending on where you are at, much more than flurries. 
 

In one word…depressing. 😞

Mid 70s and sunny here in SoCal. 😎

[klos63]

4 hours ago, Eastport bills said:

Bills need a retractable roof stadium for this team as it's constructed. Open air for the most part and domed when necessary. Build it and watch this city get a SB and be a destination. 

Need to put a dome over the whole city to get a Super Bowl.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

They should put a dome over the whole city

[Milanos Milano]

8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

They should put a dome over the whole city

By helicopter? Lol 

[Utah John]

14 hours ago, BTB said:

Well duh…you live in friggin’ Alaska.  😂

Well duh...you live in friggin' Buffalo.  So it snows there and it's cold here.  Life is good.

[Niagara Bill]

Anyone who has been at The Rich, The Ralph, etc etc , with Bills vs Dolphins, and been at the tunnel end of the stadium, and for 20 minutes watched a white wall closing in from "The Lake", reaching ECC, JK Blvd, the score board, the endzone seats, saw Jim K take off his coat and begin waving it around, the cheers getting louder and louder,  KNOWS , Buffalo weather is like a good friend. It provides some of the greatest moments in your life but occasionally you need a break.

Cheers to Buffalo weather for being a good friend. 

[Ga boy]

With so much land north and NW of city, why was OP picked in the first place, and why not in the second place???  Go Bills!!

[Eastport bills]

12 hours ago, klos63 said:

Need to put a dome over the whole city to get a Super Bowl.

Don't you think there might be some fancy Hotels/ Casino/Shopping that gets built near a new stadium?

[Doc]

Roofed stadium.  They need to rerun the poll.

[Nextmanup]

12 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

They should put a dome over the whole city

It would be a lot easier for everyone living there to simply move.

 

There aren't that many people left anyway. 

 

(True story).

 

 

[klos63]

1 hour ago, Eastport bills said:

Don't you think there might be some fancy Hotels/ Casino/Shopping that gets built near a new stadium?

Nope, but even if that happened, is that a draw for people to want to be here for a Super Bowl?  I work at high end golf club in Scottsdale, we are already planning for the Super Bowl here in 2023.  This is the type of thing people want to do when they travel, not go shopping.

[billsfan_34]

On 11/26/2021 at 1:11 PM, Nextmanup said:

I have to say, this seems so over-played.

 

In December and January, MOST of this country is cold and crappy.  I'm not sure it's any worse in Orchard Park, especially if there is no storm at the moment.

 

Also: parts of this country (Green Bay, Chicago, Minneapolis) are FREAKING COLD in the winter time...they routinely get much colder air than Buffalo does, thanks to the lake.

 

On a non-storm kind of day, I'd rather be in Buffalo than Green Bay or Chicago, with minus 3 outside air temps.

 

It just doesn't get that cold in WNY typically.

 

 

You have to factor in the winds off the lake along with the heavy snow.

[ChasBB]

I'd like to see the weather played up.  Example, MNF will probably show some typical shots of Niagara Falls, downtown, etc.

That's all well-and good, but how about sending a film crew out to Holiday Valley, instead ...
show downhill skiers, chair lifts, hot chocolate around a fire, etc ... make the Buffalo region out to be a winter wonderland instead of the frozen tundra.
Marketing, dammit !!

[gjv]

Perhaps a Domed Stadium is in order.

[Eastport bills]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

Nope, but even if that happened, is that a draw for people to want to be here for a Super Bowl?  I work at high end golf club in Scottsdale, we are already planning for the Super Bowl here in 2023.  This is the type of thing people want to do when they travel, not go shopping.

I can dream can't I?

Just now, Eastport bills said:

I can dream can't I?

People like to party,gamble and eat good food. Who says Buffalo can't provide that. Possibly even gambling on the  menu.