Juice_32 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Andy1 said: You are what you are. We are a finesse team that can’t stop the run by a power offensive line. Finesse team aka soft, on both lines, coupled with a lack of discipline and you get a ***** show like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Herc11 said: We really need to adjust the defense out of these nickel formations when we play these run heavy teams. They run it down our throat and we continue to leave Johnson out there. I had that question about the Colts game - I thought it might have been better to pull Johnson and play our 4-3 base. But with Edmunds out it has to be asked if Klein at MLB and Dodson for Johnson would be a talent drop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) It's going to come down to the games against the Patriots. They need to win them both. Absolutely disgusting performance by the Bills. The McKenzie fumble was the turning point obviously. Bills need a dome. Edited November 21, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Hard fact imo is this one: the Bills are soft. Tough teams that fight in the trenches beat them. They are tough at skill spots but soft up front 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: That’s a really fair take. We have one of the most expensive DL, and at this point have a number of high draft picks invested It has to be said that the ROI is poor. That said….I do wonder how coaching plays a factor. I can’t help noticing that when McDermott and Frazier start talking in pressers about how we “hope we can come up with a plan to limit their big plays” it seems to be a cue that they really don’t have a plan and we’re gonna see a butt-whupping On a simpler level - they build this D to stop the pass, and kept investing that way while other teams were switching to go physical and big against nickel fronts. The Patriots are succeeding with tons of TEs and a power running game. The entire concept of the Bills’ build was flawed, or at least it became flawed and they didn’t adjust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Umm I’m thinking No Gameballs today. To coach mcdermott, oh that’s right he doesn’t have any 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 We're not moving forward until we fire Sean McDermott he's not getting us anywhere. Folks lock out my USC takes and don't listen to the La Salle talks and treat me like I'm doxxing him. Sorry folks two years in inventories analysis and I can spot when someone is running a long con-artist game and a fraud operation. And, Sean has that to the hilt. 7 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Could the AFC be any wider open right now? tenn losing to Texans? Bills losing the Jags? So weird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) One plus point... we can't play any worse than that, can we? Edited November 21, 2021 by UKBillFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1) we don’t match-up well with the colts, but even moreso without Star and Edmunds. 2) the weather hurt us and helped them. 3) Josh continues to fight what the defense gives him. He could have cut them up with a million passes to Beasley, but tried to force too much down field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Postmortem....perfect word Hap.....I'm too angry to even want to vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Jeff1954 said: We’re done. Time to start planning for next year. Nothing much else to say at this point. Give me a break. We're still 6-4. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said: It’s cliche, but we’re going to find out what this team is made of, if we haven’t already. lol. How many wake up calls do they need? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 It’s like this team listened a little too much to the sports talk and media that it’s great and now doesn’t feel the need to prove it. Like they’re all coasting. Almost like they’ve lose the chip on their shoulder they’ve had and fought like dogs on every play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I had that question about the Colts game - I thought it might have been better to pull Johnson and play our 4-3 base. But with Edmunds out it has to be asked if Klein at MLB and Dodson for Johnson would be a talent drop True, but I'd rather take the gamble to stop the run and make Wentz beat us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, jkeerie said: The one thing I hate about the Bills losing, is it brings out all the termites with their negative takes that otherswise remain hidden in the woodwork when the Bills play well. Okay...the Bills suck today. They're playing a more desparate team with the best back in the league and without key players. Okay. That does not negate what this team has accomplished since Beane and McD have arrived. Believe me, this beat down is hurting them worse than it hurts us. Are they overrated? Perhaps. Today, it certainly looks so. We're not the best team in the AFC and we aren't the worst. We no longer lead the division and the hated Patriots do. There's more football to be played. There are no runaway teams this year in either conference. I'm going to enjoy the sport. Hope the Bills get healthy and gather themselves for the rest of the season and let the chips fall where they may. At this juncture, my real reason for pulling for the Bills to win, is to weed out all the faux fans who frequent the boards when the Bills play like crap. There's a difference between losing a close road game to a division leader, and absolutely looking like they never got off the team bus. Two poor games in the last 3 weeks. Of course I want the team to win, but right now there are definitely some major issues with them that can't be ignored or glossed over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I had that question about the Colts game - I thought it might have been better to pull Johnson and play our 4-3 base. But with Edmunds out it has to be asked if Klein at MLB and Dodson for Johnson would be a talent drop They did play their 4-3 vs the Titans and that didn't do any good. I think it's the DL. They have to be more stout vs the run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 does this message board have a block/ignore feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Food for thought, if Bill Bellicheck coaches this team we are Super Bowl Champs. Again I compare this team to the early 90s teams. The 90s teams had a killer instinct always, no game was ever too far out of hand. This team does not have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Did somebody say something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Where's Rex?? We need to "build a bully"!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, vincec said: They did play their 4-3 vs the Titans and that didn't do any good. I think it's the DL. They have to be more stout vs the run. No they didn’t. Klein got 3 snaps. Johnson got 94% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I blame Lynch. Don't bring any player back from the drought. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I would’ve been all for a defensive gameplan that sold out to stop the run. I don’t care if you put 8 or 9 in the box, don’t let Taylor beat you. Bills played 4 down lineman all game, 7 box looks the majority of the game. Never adjusted. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: The one thing I hate about the Bills losing, is it brings out all the termites with their negative takes that otherswise remain hidden in the woodwork when the Bills play well. Okay...the Bills suck today. They're playing a more desparate team with the best back in the league and without key players. Okay. That does not negate what this team has accomplished since Beane and McD have arrived. Believe me, this beat down is hurting them worse than it hurts us. Are they overrated? Perhaps. Today, it certainly looks so. We're not the best team in the AFC and we aren't the worst. We no longer lead the division and the hated Patriots do. There's more football to be played. There are no runaway teams this year in either conference. I'm going to enjoy the sport. Hope the Bills get healthy and gather themselves for the rest of the season and let the chips fall where they may. At this juncture, my real reason for pulling for the Bills to win, is to weed out all the faux fans who frequent the boards when the Bills play like crap. Oh god spare me the you can't call out this team deficiencies or you're not a real fan stuff. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 This team isn't taking their chance at winning a super bowl seriously. They thought the KC game was their super bowl. They need to regroup and take a good hard look in the mirror and stop all the fun and games and get back to business like last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Draconator said: Defense needs a rethink. We cannot stop the run against quality teams. I trust that McDermott and Fraiser can mae the necessary adjustments so we can be sucessful against quality teams. I do too… but I’m starting to lose faith in them tbh. This year has been a gut punch. To be 6-4, looking like how we look right now is really tough to swallow. McDermott back to coaching conservative and scared. And the kicker is, the issues we face are all issues the fans saw coming… Interior Offensive Line, Run Game and Run Defense. We re-signed our own, swapped out a WR and drafted two EDGE rushers in the 1st & 2nd Rounds of the Draft. Credit where it’s due on Spencer Brown, but that not enough right now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I think on the D line, investing in the smaller quicker guys to have a chance at getting at the quarterback isn't working. So now along with not being able to get to the quarterback we can't hold the line or stop the run. Bills are a good defense if they can force a team to be one dimensional but that's the only time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: No they didn’t. Klein got 3 snaps. Johnson got 94% According to Frazier at this week's press conference, they played their 4-3 as their base defense in one game this season- the Titans game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, vincec said: They did play their 4-3 vs the Titans and that didn't do any good. I think it's the DL. They have to be more stout vs the run. Outside of one long 76 yard TD run where multiple holds were missed, Henry was contained. He had like less than 3 YPC. Something like 19 for 58 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I will say this in summation. No team that gets dominated like that in a big game, at home, will be a threat to win the Super bowl. That dream has died today. They might still be able to sneak in as a wild card but not sure. Too may other AFC teams have 6-7 wins already. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, jlgarsh said: There's a difference between losing a close road game to a division leader, and absolutely looking like they never got off the team bus. Two poor games in the last 3 weeks. Of course I want the team to win, but right now there are definitely some major issues with them that can't be ignored or glossed over. I couldn't agree with you more. But fixing issues that need to be fixed versus blowing everything up is quite a different response to today's poor effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Just now, zow2 said: I will say this in summation. No team that gets dominated like that in a big game, at home, will be a threat to win the Super bowl. That dream has died today. They might still be able to sneak in as a wild card but not sure. Too may other AFC teams have 6-7 wins already. Have to agree there - no sane person would pick this team to win a super bowl. Opportunity squandered. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: The one thing I hate about the Bills losing, is it brings out all the termites with their negative takes that otherswise remain hidden in the woodwork when the Bills play well. Okay...the Bills suck today. They're playing a more desparate team with the best back in the league and without key players. Okay. That does not negate what this team has accomplished since Beane and McD have arrived. Believe me, this beat down is hurting them worse than it hurts us. Are they overrated? Perhaps. Today, it certainly looks so. We're not the best team in the AFC and we aren't the worst. We no longer lead the division and the hated Patriots do. There's more football to be played. There are no runaway teams this year in either conference. I'm going to enjoy the sport. Hope the Bills get healthy and gather themselves for the rest of the season and let the chips fall where they may. At this juncture, my real reason for pulling for the Bills to win, is to weed out all the faux fans who frequent the boards when the Bills play like crap. agreed, fans overreact to losses and over hype the wins, its what we do, the bills were never as good as the hype (most teams in NFL prove not to be) and we prob not as bad as we looked today. somewhere in the middle with the rest of the flawed NFL teams, the only thing we can hope for is they figure out how to improve some things and get hot down the stretch. Not sayin its gonna happen but one of these 32 teams has to get hot and make a Super Bowl run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, jkeerie said: The one thing I hate about the Bills losing, is it brings out all the termites with their negative takes that otherswise remain hidden in the woodwork when the Bills play well. Okay...the Bills suck today. They're playing a more desparate team with the best back in the league and without key players. Okay. That does not negate what this team has accomplished since Beane and McD have arrived. Believe me, this beat down is hurting them worse than it hurts us. Are they overrated? Perhaps. Today, it certainly looks so. We're not the best team in the AFC and we aren't the worst. We no longer lead the division and the hated Patriots do. There's more football to be played. There are no runaway teams this year in either conference. I'm going to enjoy the sport. Hope the Bills get healthy and gather themselves for the rest of the season and let the chips fall where they may. At this juncture, my real reason for pulling for the Bills to win, is to weed out all the faux fans who frequent the boards when the Bills play like crap. Unlike some here… I’m going to keep following the team and hoping for the best until they are either mathematically eliminated or they lose in the playoffs… But after experiencing the highs of six weeks ago when they beat the Chiefs to what we have seen since is disappointing though… was really hoping for a special year… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I said before the game….wheels are about to come off Over hyped and way too soft 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 This game was done in the final two minutes of the half and the start of the second…make it 14-7 let the colts drive the field to 17-7…goofball fumbles kickoff…24-7….miss field goal…start of second half starts with 2 drops and a 3 and out… 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 That game was so bad I stopped watching in the 3rd and bought Kindergarten Cop. This tells you everything you need to know about how I feel about the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I'm just expecting them to be a wildcard team at this point. Is what it is anything better I'll be surprised 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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