All-22 Grades for Bills/Titans (The Athletic)

[HappyDays]

 

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1. Josh Allen missed three TD opportunities on one FG drive

during the Bills’ second field goal drive to begin the game, quarterback Josh Allen missed three separate chances for a touchdown that could have changed the early complexion of the game. I want to stress that Allen was one of the top-performing Bills players against the Titans. He helped them to several points and situations that put them in a position to win. However, you can’t ignore some lack of execution, and that occurred three times in a nine-play span that cost the Bills a touchdown and a dominant start to the game.

It’s important to remember that Allen was not the reason the Bills lost the game. They needed much more from the defense. However, the Bills have been one of the worst red zone touchdown teams in the NFL over the last three weeks, making these missed opportunities worth investigating. At least on this drive, it came down to a lack of execution from avoiding penalties and either identifying the open man or making an accurate throw. The opportunities are there, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they clean things up in short order. The passing offense is too explosive to continue stalling in the red zone.

 

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2. Two defensive strengths had their worst game this year

the most surprising development was that two of their best and steadiest defenders had their worst game since the AFC Championship Game.

Weakside linebacker Matt Milano had some good plays, but he was extremely eager to be the point man in stopping Derrick Henry.

Milano was was often caught way too close to the line of scrimmage on play-action passes. He also wasn’t as efficient as a blitzer as he’s been previously in his career. All in all, it was just a rough outing and dropped him from the top of the season-long grades.

Despite strong safety Jordan Poyer’s interception, he struggled as a run defender against the Titans — usually a strength in his game. The Bills positioned him near the line of scrimmage several times to give additional support against Henry, but he had a tough time getting off blocks. A blocking wide receiver took out Poyer on a few plays, including on the 76-yard touchdown run that helped wake up the Titans offense. That play wasn’t Poyer’s fault alone, but the receiver clearly won the rep and Poyer couldn’t even get an arm out to try and slow Henry in the running lane. I wouldn’t expect this trend to continue for either player. It was just a bad outing.

 

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When Spencer Brown’s or Dion Dawkins’ game comes to mind, the immediate impulse is to bring up two game-defining plays. For Brown, it was the sack allowed that led to a first-half Allen interception, and for Dawkins, it’s missing his block on fourth-and-inches at the end of the game. Although both plays were bad reps, both Bills’ offensive tackles had impressive days against a pair of good edge rushers.

Dawkins stonewalled Harold Landry throughout the game. It was a tough assignment for Dawkins because of how well Landry had been playing, but Dawkins remained confident, moved well and rarely gave Landry the runway to get by and affect Allen. Landry’s big pass-rushing rep occurred on a stunt, where he powered through Mitch Morse for a pressure. On the right side, Brown played really well against Bud Dupree. He pancaked his assignment to the ground twice and looked in control most of the game. While, yes, Brown dropped his head and suffered a bad beat against Titans defensive lineman Denico Autry, Brown was a positive performer for a third straight week. Bad plays will happen for young players. It’s a part of life in the NFL. However, given that this was his toughest test yet and he played relatively well, the Bills should be feeling very good about their rookie right tackle through three starts.

 

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4. Jerry Hughes was monstrous

He was quick off the snap and showed the same explosiveness that has made him a staple in the Bills’ starting lineup for nine years. He used that quickness to generate instant pressures on Tannehill and helped to force him into throwaways and inaccurate passes. Hughes also batted down a pass. Hughes remains without a full sack this season, but his pressures were there against the quick-throwing Tannehill.

According to TruMedia and Pro Football Focus, he led all Bills defensive ends with a 16.7 pressure percentage of his pass-rushing snaps.

 

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5. Harrison Phillips did enough to warrant another opportunity

given the Titans’ run game, the Bills gave Phillips a chance, and he smashed his opportunity in limited snaps.

Phillips was getting penetration on run downs and even worked inside for a pressure on a pass-rushing down. Phillips has outperformed Vernon Butler this season in the same amount of game opportunities.

 

Top 5 grades:

1) Diggs (A-)

2) Allen (B+)

3) Hughes (B+)

4) Dawkins (B+)

5) Johnson (B+)

 

Bottom 5 grades (worst to 5th worst):

1) Milano (C-)

2) Wallace (C)

3) Edmunds (C)

4) Singletary (C)

5) Poyer (C+)

[First Round Bust]

 

per Joe B  from The Athletic...I approve based on several years of film review...says Hughes had the best penetration at 16%

 

 

top 12

 

bottom 12 - some money players who had their worst game of the season by far esp the LBs and DBs (other than Hyde)...haters game for Tremaine

                                              

 

16 Justin Zimmer DT B-            

17 Emmanuel Sanders WR B- 

18  Mitch Morse C        B-                     

19 Greg Rousseau DE   B-

20 Zack Moss  RB B- 

21 Star Lotulelei DT C+

22 Mario Addison DE  C+

23 Tre’Davious White CB C+

24 Jordan Poyer S   C+

25 Devin Singletary RB C

26 Tremaine Edmunds MLB C

27 Levi Wallace CB C

28 Matt Milano WLB C-

 

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[thenorthremembers]

I think the trade that brought Jerry Hughes here is one of the best in Bills' history.  That said, if I never have to hear any version of the following "While he wasn't able to get to the QB, Jerry Hughes had plenty of pressures" again I'll die a happy man.     The guy has made 2.5 million dollars a sack the last 3 years.  

Edited October 21, 2021 by thenorthremembers

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Please use the search function 

5 minutes earlier 

 

 

[Jobot]

I mean... when linebackers need to stack up 3 yards behind LOS... I just can't imagine a scenario where they could be given a good grade. There's no linebacker that's ever played the game that could start off in that position and then also drop into coverage successfully against an AJ brown reciever.

[34-78-83]

 

 

looks pretty damn good in these plays where he was part of the action. Shows the same aggression and burst we've seen in previous games this year. He truly is playing different this season than ever before, and he needed to be. Hopefully it continues! My review would have had Hughes, Tre Day, Edmunds and Phillips as the 4 best performing players on defense in this game.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Interesting take on Hughes. 

[Reader]

I'm not sure how to feel about the fact that our best rusher gets pressure 1 out of 6 times. Maybe that's good, I really have no clue.

[First Round Bust]

star's worst game - plus no sacks and other than Hughes no pressure

the coaching did not really adjust to the passing scheme in the second-half esp Brown's crosses as the corners and Poyer pinched to the line and were late getting back into drops on the play-actions

[Haslett_Stomp]

34 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I think the trade that brought Jerry Hughes here is one of the best in Bills' history.  That said, if I never have to hear any version of the following "While he wasn't able to get to the QB, Jerry Hughes had plenty of pressures" again I'll die a happy man.     The guy has made 2.5 million dollars a sack the last 3 years.  

 

Hughes is blatantly held on almost every pass play.

[Solomon Grundy]

19 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Interesting take on Hughes. 

And Edmunds 

[WideNine]

 

Edmunds is pretty sound following his gap assignments on those frontside and backside G pulls, or shedding and filling on stretch runs.

 

Almost a bit too aggressive and bites on the counters.

 

Tough assignment for Edmunds with Henry in the mix - have to respect how he can break one to the house with just a bit of daylight and a missed tackle. Needed more help covering passes in the middle of the field in the second half.

 

I think that TN was ripe for some robber concepts bringing an extra DB or safety to cover the middle that Edmunds was vacating...

 

There will be a lot for McD to take away from this game.

 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by WideNine

[GunnerBill]

I believe Poyer conceded that it was his gap Henry burst through for the long TD. He wasn't just in run support that was a run blitz and his assignment was that gap. I know he was held but I didn't like the formation even before the snap. I actually thought "they might need to call timeout here" I could see exactly what was going to happen. We were going to end up with a DB 1 on 1 against Henry with nothing but green grass behind if he couldn't slow him down.

[Draconator]

36 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Please use the search function 

5 minutes earlier 

 

 

 

Not hard to find

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, Draconator said:

 

Not hard to find

 

not at all 

[WideNine]

1 hour ago, Draconator said:

 

Not hard to find

 

 

The mods can combine them...

 

I find it funny that we have one thread to capture post game comments and such yet 50 new ones popup after every game.

 

No biggie.

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

I believe Poyer conceded that it was his gap Henry burst through for the long TD. He wasn't just in run support that was a run blitz and his assignment was that gap. I know he was held but I didn't like the formation even before the snap. I actually thought "they might need to call timeout here" I could see exactly what was going to happen. We were going to end up with a DB 1 on 1 against Henry with nothing but green grass behind if he couldn't slow him down.

I agree. The Titans shifted and changed their offensive formation like 3 or 4 times on that play, and you could almost see the Bills a little slow there in responding. 

[LeGOATski]

Take Joe B analysis with a handful of salt. I make it my responsibility to remind my fellow board members of this every week. 😁

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Haslett_Stomp said:

 

Hughes is blatantly held on almost every pass play.

And that will continue till he retires. He's burned every official bridge in existence. Every OC in the league is aware of this and will instruct their tackles to hold him on every play. Please God let this be Jerry & Mario's last season. 

[GoBills808]

14 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I agree. The Titans shifted and changed their offensive formation like 3 or 4 times on that play, and you could almost see the Bills a little slow there in responding. 

There really wasn't anything wrong w the playcall. They bring Poyer down into the box on the TE a lot. There were a lot of things execution-wise that allowed that play to happen, but none of them are predictable. Like if Rousseau doesn't lose contain getting blocked by a TE the play goes for 1 yard. If Wallace is faster to recognize that his man is runblocking v Poyer and crashes down like he's supposed to instead of taking that last terrible step backward the play goes for 3 yards. If Milano doesn't slightly overrun his gap and is able to work back the play goes for 5 yards. If Poyer isn't held it goes for 7, if White isn't held it goes for 15, if Hyde takes a better angle it goes for 20.

[SirAndrew]

This is why I’m not a fan of these grading systems. I thought some of the guys with lower grades contributed nicely, while some of those with better grades played well below what I’d like to see. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

There really wasn't anything wrong w the playcall. They bring Poyer down into the box on the TE a lot. There were a lot of things execution-wise that allowed that play to happen, but none of them are predictable. Like if Rousseau doesn't lose contain getting blocked by a TE the play goes for 1 yard. If Wallace is faster to recognize that his man is runblocking v Poyer and crashes down like he's supposed to instead of taking that last terrible step backward the play goes for 3 yards. If Milano doesn't slightly overrun his gap and is able to work back the play goes for 5 yards. If Poyer isn't held it goes for 7, if White isn't held it goes for 15, if Hyde takes a better angle it goes for 20.

I don’t disagree with this. But I distinctly remember before this play, that the Titans seemed to be doing something tricky. They did several shifts and maybe changed the side of the play. Maybe that didn’t confuse the Bills— but it looked like it did in real time pre-snap. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

He seems to always love him some Jerry Hughes. Don't agree with the Edmunds grade  C-? He always overrates Feliciano too IMHO.

Edited October 21, 2021 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[Dkollidas]

Idk. Buscaglia just seems like he’s trying outsmart everyone and tell anyone who’s listening that he knows something that they don’t. Every week. Last season it was the their dissatisfaction with and demise of Mitch Morse… two years ago it was how much they loved Dugger and were going to get a “big nickel” to be a key cog in the defense.

 

I just take his takes with a few grains of salt.

 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And that will continue till he retires. He's burned every official bridge in existence. Every OC in the league is aware of this and will instruct their tackles to hold him on every play. Please God let this be Jerry & Mario's last season. 

The writings on the wall unless they come back on the cheap. 

[billsfan89]

Just an odd game looking further back on it, the Bills offense ended up in a shootout mainly because of a big play given up to Henry and some bad redzone inefficiency. The defense came out strong but faded fast. Just have to chalk it up to a tough road loss. Luckily they get a bye week after a physical game. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, Haslett_Stomp said:

 

Hughes is blatantly held on almost every pass play.

 

stop...

[MJS]

8 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I think the trade that brought Jerry Hughes here is one of the best in Bills' history.  That said, if I never have to hear any version of the following "While he wasn't able to get to the QB, Jerry Hughes had plenty of pressures" again I'll die a happy man.     The guy has made 2.5 million dollars a sack the last 3 years.  

I agree 100%. I like him as a player, but I am so sick of hearing how great a pass rusher he is when he never gets sacks. I get it. Pressures are important. But "great" pass rushers get pressures AND sacks. Doesn't matter if they are double teamed. Doesn't matter if they are held. They finish.

 

Hughes is a good complementary pass rusher, but he needs a dominant guy on the other side to take away the focus on him in order to play to his potential. That's why he did so well when Mario Williams was on the other side. Hopefully one of the new guys becomes that, but Hughes will probably be gone by the time that happens.

5 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

Idk. Buscaglia just seems like he’s trying outsmart everyone and tell anyone who’s listening that he knows something that they don’t. Every week. Last season it was the their dissatisfaction with and demise of Mitch Morse… two years ago it was how much they loved Dugger and were going to get a “big nickel” to be a key cog in the defense.

 

I just take his takes with a few grains of salt.

 

Hole heartedly agree. I do not know if he is qualified to grade players watching the all-22. I put as much stock in his grades as my friend Joe Schmo sitting on the couch next to me. But kudos to him for doing it.

[finn]

12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

And that will continue till he retires. He's burned every official bridge in existence. Every OC in the league is aware of this and will instruct their tackles to hold him on every play. Please God let this be Jerry & Mario's last season. 

Would you elaborate on how he burned official bridges? I recall him reportedly alienating officials calling a Patriots game years ago, but was he somehow blacklisted afterwards? He does seem like he never draws holding penalties, but, if that is in fact the case, I never heard why. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

55 is a menace. He struggles to get home, but he moves qbs off their spot constantly. 

[corta765]

16 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I think the trade that brought Jerry Hughes here is one of the best in Bills' history.  That said, if I never have to hear any version of the following "While he wasn't able to get to the QB, Jerry Hughes had plenty of pressures" again I'll die a happy man.     The guy has made 2.5 million dollars a sack the last 3 years.  

 

Agreed. To read that he had a good game is just crap. The Jets, THE JETS, sacked the crap out of Titans and we couldn't get one. Sometimes this is where looking at analytics is too much. The Bills failed to get to Tannehill and he was able to convert many big passes in the 2nd half especially because of this.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, corta765 said:

 

Agreed. To read that he had a good game is just crap. The Jets, THE JETS, sacked the crap out of Titans and we couldn't get one. Sometimes this is where looking at analytics is too much. The Bills failed to get to Tannehill and he was able to convert many big passes in the 2nd half especially because of this.

 

He was able to convert so many big passes by freezing the Bills on play action. The Bills never got the point where they just said "forget the run play the pass all the way" on those because they were so terrified of Henry beating them. It was a combination of players and scheme. 

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I expect the red zone offense to improve big time starting next week…. Can’t see them being bottom in the league in red zone all year.

Which was their strategy last year when they got destroyed…. So I’m not sure why they thought the same game plan would work…. 

 

Yea, even as a big Leslie Frazier is good truther I did not like the gameplan particularly on Monday, although I think we all accept when you have Henry back there, a guy who runs those middle of the field routes as well as anyone in the league in AJ Brown and Julio Jones as a pure outside guy you are a tough offense to stop, regardless. 

[corta765]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He was able to convert so many big passes by freezing the Bills on play action. The Bills never got the point where they just said "forget the run play the pass all the way" on those because they were so terrified of Henry beating them. It was a combination of players and scheme. 

Yea the biggest weakness this defense has is the PA. For some reason it’s the one area they freeze like deee in headlights at points.

[letsgoteam]

Is the all 22 finally on Game pass? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

15 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

Idk. Buscaglia just seems like he’s trying outsmart everyone and tell anyone who’s listening that he knows something that they don’t. Every week. Last season it was the their dissatisfaction with and demise of Mitch Morse… two years ago it was how much they loved Dugger and were going to get a “big nickel” to be a key cog in the defense.

 

I just take his takes with a few grains of salt.

 

Take with half a salt-shaker more like.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Singletary in the bottom 5 is a head scratcher for me.

 

He finished with 5 carries for 27 yards and 5 catches (on 5 targets) for 16 yards. I distinctly remember him breaking a few tackles and creating more yards than what was blocked for him on some of those carries.  

 

I'm not saying he deserved an A+ or anything, but I thought he did fine with his limited touches. 

[Simon]

49 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Singletary in the bottom 5 is a head scratcher for me.

 

He finished with 5 carries for 27 yards and 5 catches (on 5 targets) for 16 yards. I distinctly remember him breaking a few tackles and creating more yards than what was blocked for him on some of those carries.  

 

I'm not saying he deserved an A+ or anything, but I thought he did fine with his limited touches. 

He was solid but he did seem to blow a couple protections.

Maybe that was what the guy was referring to?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Top 5 grades:

1) Diggs (A-)

2) Allen (B+)

3) Hughes (B+)

4) Dawkins (B+)

5) Johnson (B+)

 

Bottom 5 grades (worst to 5th worst):

1) Milano (C-)

2) Wallace (C)

3) Edmunds (C)

4) Singletary (C)

5) Poyer (C+)

 

I have never understood how Joe Buscaglia grades players and he is not, to my knowledge, transparent about it at all.

In weeks where Beasley saw 40-50% of the snaps and was targeted 2x, Buscaglia gave him a C or something, no explanation of why.   It seemed totally arbitrary.

 

 

[nedboy7]

PFF Grades.  Not so down on Poyer. 

Highest graded #Bills vs Tennessee (min. 25 snaps)

Jordan Poyer: 85.2

Mario Addison: 84.7

Stefon Diggs: 79.5

Josh Allen: 77.5

Daryl Williams: 76.1