Schedule makers did us no favors

[Beach]

asl?  this will help me understand.

[cwater10]

2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

1. Football is a tough game and every game take somewhat of a t(r)oll.  ...Fixed

2. An extra game was added this year, this will take an extra t(r)oll. ...Fixed

3.  Our extra game was Washington and we played it thus our extra t(r)oll has been taken  ...Fixed

4. KC and Tenn have not played their extra game.

Yes, it was so obvious all along.  And the cow jumped over the moon while the dish ran away with the spoon.  Troll on...

[Einstein's Dog]

2 hours ago, ganesh said:

The chiefs just played brutal games against the Ravens and Chargers (after winning a close game against Cleveland) and now must face a touch Eagles team on the road..and then playing Us,  Washington and the Titans.....As brutal as ours if not more.....  Think about it ....The chiefs could possibly be 1-6......Yes it is a possibility because these are all tough teams

No, the Chiefs are not going to be 1 - 6.

 

Also the Eagles are not a tough team, they are pathetic. And how could you just finish watching our game and think Wash would be any type of problem for KC? C'mon.

[Jauronimo]

33 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Except that we've all played the same total number of games to date...?

Yeah but we played our 17th game and the other teams in the AFC are working on their first 16 games.  See?

[Kwai San]

53 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

In every game players get nicked up.  Player our extra game before we play KC is likely to have less players at 100%.

So KC is playing one less game when the Bills play them?  Is this your logic?  If so it fails miserably!!!  Utterly and Completely.  An abject failure of a statement.  I mean you do realize we would have played a game no matter what correct?  You are going to die on this hill of no reason......your argument/statement is just plain wrong.  I fail to see ANY logic in it at all.  Both teams will have played 4 games and the week after both teams will have played 5 games.  Said players will have been or not have been nixed up regardless.

 

This makes no sense whatsoever.......using this hill of no reason it stuns me the sheer number of posts you have.

1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Yet another time I want to use the confused reaction, but it was bizarrely removed in the mass expansion of reaction options.

 

The vomit reaction works just as well with the OP's post!!!!

Edited September 28, 2021 by Kwai San

[BuffaloMatt]

Wow . . . five pages. 

[cwater10]

Great Scott!  It'll be OK.  Josh has a DeLorean for game days.

[Amorgus]

16 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

So KC is playing one less game when the Bills play them?  Is this your logic?  If so it fails miserably!!!  Utterly and Completely.  An abject failure of a statement.  I mean you do realize we would have played a game no matter what correct?  You are going to die on this hill of no reason......your argument/statement is just plain wrong.  I fail to see ANY logic in it at all.  Both teams will have played 4 games and the week after both teams will have played 5 games.  Said players will have been or not have been nixed up regardless.

 

This makes no sense whatsoever.......using this hill of no reason it stuns me the sheer number of posts you have.

 

The vomit reaction works just as well with the OP's post!!!!

It seems the "logic" is they supposedly played one out-of-conference opponent that they wouldn't have had to play last year before most other team., The total number of games played "doesn't matter".  Why this matters at all is lost on me as well.  The Bills decimated their "extra" opponent.  I don't know who the other teams have for theirs but it's moot to bicker about now that Washington is toast.  Hopefully the rest of the AFC's "extra" opponents destroy them.

Edited September 28, 2021 by Amorgus

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 minutes ago, Amorgus said:

It seems the "logic" is they supposedly played one out-of-conference opponent that they wouldn't have had to play last year before most other team., The total number of games played "doesn't matter".  Why this matters at all is lost on me as well.  The Bills decimated their "extra" opponent.  I don't know who the other teams have for theirs but it's moot to bicker about now that Washington is toast.  Hopefully the rest of the AFC's "extra" opponents destroy them.

Idk how we can complain about our extra opponent when we won the division last year and still got to avoid the best team in the nfc east by far and the patriots have to play them instead loll so the whole original post was wild 🤣

[Amorgus]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Idk how we can complain about our extra opponent when we won the division last year and still got to avoid the best team in the nfc east by far and the patriots have to play them instead loll so the whole original post was wild 🤣

I bet whoever gets the Jets as an extra opponent isn't going to cry about it!

[Rubes]

It's been a while since one of these gems from @4merper4mer.  Just love watching all the folks unfamiliar with him take the bait.

 

[cwater10]

3 minutes ago, Rubes said:

It's been a while since one of these gems from @4merper4mer.  Just love watching all the folks unfamiliar with him take the bait.

 

Guilty, but laughing now...  Have to acknowledge work well done...  Damn!

[AuntieEm]

3 hours ago, corta765 said:

The Bills have one of the easiest schedules right now opponent wise and before the season I think it was rated as 5th easiest. If you have an issue with Houston then they are not SB caliber

 

     Let's not forget the reason alot of our games are rated as easy is because Josh Allen is an elite QB and we have a quality well balanced team.

Teams are already gameplanning to stop Josh Allen while not having the players to do that for a whole game.  And don't even get to whether they can figure out where to attack our defense, to even have a chance at winning. Bills strength of schedule largely, dictated by their play quality.....            

       Haven't had a team earn its schedule strength since the 90's and I think we have a better defensive potential than what the 90s defenses ranked in their era. The 90s were more stacked with the star players in Bruce, Talley, Bennett, Conlan, Jones, ....   telling that Bruce was the only HoF from the defense those years.  I think we got a more top tier defensive playmakers than the 90's defenses had or at the very least think as a total unit i think we have a better defense than Kelly's teams had. 

[LeGOATski]

Clicking into this thread is like walking into the Black Lodge...

 

[SoCal Deek]

The best way to 'guarantee' yourself an easy schedule is to be a small market team, and finish in last place in a crappy Division.  That will limit your national TV exposure and set you up with at least six winnable games right out the shoot.  (The Bills did two of the three.)

[corta765]

5 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

     Let's not forget the reason alot of our games are rated as easy is because Josh Allen is an elite QB and we have a quality well balanced team.

Teams are already gameplanning to stop Josh Allen while not having the players to do that for a whole game.  And don't even get to whether they can figure out where to attack our defense, to even have a chance at winning. Bills strength of schedule largely, dictated by their play quality.....            

       Haven't had a team earn its schedule strength since the 90's and I think we have a better defensive potential than what the 90s defenses ranked in their era. The 90s were more stacked with the star players in Bruce, Talley, Bennett, Conlan, Jones, ....   telling that Bruce was the only HoF from the defense those years.  I think we got a more top tier defensive playmakers than the 90's defenses had or at the very least think as a total unit i think we have a better defense than Kelly's teams had. 

 

It is always tough comparing because we do not know who is a HOF and star plus the teams sucess etc.. But Allen talent wise is above Kelly, but I think Kelly had better play makers. On defense the 90 Bills had Bruce, but the depth and talent of the secondary and Milano/Edmunds pushes the defense now better then the 90s crew.

[Cruiserplayer]

To become the heavyweight champion you have to keep knocking out the guy in front of you. Even if you have an extra bout🤦‍♂️

[Ponch]

3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Right but we already had our extra game and will play KC/Tenn when they haven’t had an extra game.

😂.. 😂… that’s so funn…..err… ohh 😯… wait you weren’t being funny were you (well not on purpose at least). Ohhhhhh you’re the OP. You’re not making fun of the OP.. ohh pardon … 🤭.. pardon me.. for laughing 🤭….bwaaaah! 😆 😆… just can’t help but thinking about Dennis Green 🤔 “they are what we thought they were …. And we let’em off the hook!” ….. who is this really? Are you Billy Joe Hobert? 

[AuntieEm]

4 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

It is always tough comparing because we do not know who is a HOF and star plus the teams sucess etc.. But Allen talent wise is above Kelly, but I think Kelly had better play makers. On defense the 90 Bills had Bruce, but the depth and talent of the secondary and Milano/Edmunds pushes the defense now better then the 90s crew.

        And of course all the rule changes that make it easier to pass.  Wonder how many PF Bruce would have garnered with the new rules.  Not that I recall him being brutal.  Maybe he was more quick on his get-off than anything.  His power bullrush moves were usually spent fighting off all the dbl and triple teams he faced, 

[SoCal Deek]

I still believe the NFL should adopt the international soccer model and give the entire league the same week off, right in the middle of the season. This is even more critical with the addition of a 17th game. The league's going to learn this the hard way when some of their biggest stars are either beat up or out going into the playoffs.

[corta765]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I still believe the NFL should adopt the international soccer model and give the entire league the same week off, right in the middle of the season. This is even more critical with the addition of a 17th game. The league's going to learn this the hard way when some of their biggest stars are either beat up or out going into the playoffs.

 

With how much money and attention the NFL gets this would be the worst decision possible. Thursday Night Football is not liked at all by players because of lack of rest and injuries', NFL does it because it makes gobs of money.

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, corta765 said:

 

With how much money and attention the NFL gets this would be the worst decision possible. Thursday Night Football is not liked at all by players because of lack of rest and injuries', NFL does it because it makes gobs of money.

I understand your point, but I'm not sure that's completely true.  Most people are still watching all the games through all sorts of streaming options, etc.  It's all about eyeballs on screens. I'd be interested to know what the Networks would say about it.  Did their contact increase with the extra week?  In any event, it would still be better for the TEAM and the PLAYERS to have a single, consolidated bye-week. 

[corta765]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

I understand your point, but I'm not sure that's completely true.  Most people are still watching all the games through all sorts of streaming options, etc.  It's all about eyeballs on screens. I'd be interested to know what the Networks would say about it.  Did their contact increase with the extra week?  In any event, it would still be better for the TEAM and the PLAYERS to have a single, consolidated bye-week. 

 

No it is true. The NFL is about maximizing opportunities its product is out there in visible, its why the combine is even a thing now. Shutting down your biggest piece of your product in the height of it's apex is borderline insanity. The NFL does not care about the players otherwise there would be more rest, no TNF or at minimum a more spaced out schedule for it, and 100 other things they do not do.

[Mat68]

Give Houston 3 weeks.   I think Buffalo still rolls.  David Mills doesn't have a shot against the defense.  Buffalo scores 40 again.

[SoCal Deek]

6 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

No it is true. The NFL is about maximizing opportunities its product is out there in visible, its why the combine is even a thing now. Shutting down your biggest piece of your product in the height of it's apex is borderline insanity. The NFL does not care about the players otherwise there would be more rest, no TNF or at minimum a more spaced out schedule for it, and 100 other things they do not do.

Well I've not seen a single thing that I agree with Goodell on, so my jury is still out on how this longer season works out. At some point you're going to end up with a pile of injured players limping around or sitting out the playoffs.  It might be this year.  (Except for Brady of course....he's gonna live forever. 😉)

[frostbitmic]

4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

The schedule overall is formulaic.  The “when” is not.  We’ve played our extra game and KC has not.

Is this sitcom math ?

[NoHuddleKelly12]

2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Yeah but we played our 17th game and the other teams in the AFC are working on their first 16 games.  See?

Oh, well when you put it like that…

[Protocal69]

5 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m probably making more out of this than need be, but something has struck me as off since the schedule came out.  Two of our tougher games, KC and Tenn; games which could have an impact on seeding, are coming up.  Forgetting the fact that they are back to back….again…..they also come after games which put us at a schedule disadvantage.

 

1. We play Wash coming off a mini-bye

2. We play Hou coming off a mini-bye

 

Granted these teams aren’t great but still.

 

3. And most importantly, the NFL added an extra game to the schedule this year.  It involved an inter-conference opponent that was not in the previous formula.  Ours is Wash.  So not only do we head into KC/Tenn after playing two teams off byes, but we’ve already played our extra game.  I’m glad this is week 5/6 rather than say 11/12 but by then maybe KC and Tenn would have played an extra game too.  
 

This seems unfair.

What team would you rather play when they are coming off a mini bye ( Houston or KC) or (Washington or New England). Chill out my guy.

[WhoTom]

22 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Is this sitcom math ?

 

I think they prefer the term "alternative math."

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

5 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

It is not nearly as bad as the "old days" when I swear they were punishing Ralph.  Almost every year without fail we would get the Pats afterr their bye week.

 

Another huge schedule issue was getting Pittsburgh for the first game.  Big Ben was almost guaranteed to break down this year after a few games and sure enough he already has.  

 

 

Roy, as I live and breathe and if memory serves me correctly (even if it doesn't, so what, it's still good for this thread) I believe 3 times in 4 years we led the league in playing the most number of games after opponents' byes.  

Edited September 28, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts

[Eastport bills]

5 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m probably making more out of this than need be, but something has struck me as off since the schedule came out.  Two of our tougher games, KC and Tenn; games which could have an impact on seeding, are coming up.  Forgetting the fact that they are back to back….again…..they also come after games which put us at a schedule disadvantage.

 

1. We play Wash coming off a mini-bye

2. We play Hou coming off a mini-bye

 

Granted these teams aren’t great but still.

 

3. And most importantly, the NFL added an extra game to the schedule this year.  It involved an inter-conference opponent that was not in the previous formula.  Ours is Wash.  So not only do we head into KC/Tenn after playing two teams off byes, but we’ve already played our extra game.  I’m glad this is week 5/6 rather than say 11/12 but by then maybe KC and Tenn would have played an extra game too.  
 

This seems unfair.

Go 1 and 1 in the KC and Ten games and the schedule won't matter because we'll be favored in every game except Tampa and maybe NO (if they can play decently with Winston)on Thanksgiving. We just have to stay healthy. 

[Governor]

4 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

We will have played the same number of games going into KC and Tennessee.   My head hurts.

Yeah, but 1 was the extra game, which KC has not played yet, so slight disadvantage.

[RunTheBall]

 This is an outstanding thread and I, for one, am happy just to be a part of it

[billybrew1]

7 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m probably making more out of this than need be, but something has struck me as off since the schedule came out.  Two of our tougher games, KC and Tenn; games which could have an impact on seeding, are coming up.  Forgetting the fact that they are back to back….again…..they also come after games which put us at a schedule disadvantage.

 

1. We play Wash coming off a mini-bye

2. We play Hou coming off a mini-bye

 

Granted these teams aren’t great but still.

 

3. And most importantly, the NFL added an extra game to the schedule this year.  It involved an inter-conference opponent that was not in the previous formula.  Ours is Wash.  So not only do we head into KC/Tenn after playing two teams off byes, but we’ve already played our extra game.  I’m glad this is week 5/6 rather than say 11/12 but by then maybe KC and Tenn would have played an extra game too.  
 

This seems unfair.

This year's schedule is a lot easier than last year's so you'll get no complaints from me....

[machine gun kelly]

7 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m probably making more out of this than need be, but something has struck me as off since the schedule came out.  Two of our tougher games, KC and Tenn; games which could have an impact on seeding, are coming up.  Forgetting the fact that they are back to back….again…..they also come after games which put us at a schedule disadvantage.

 

1. We play Wash coming off a mini-bye

2. We play Hou coming off a mini-bye

 

Granted these teams aren’t great but still.

 

3. And most importantly, the NFL added an extra game to the schedule this year.  It involved an inter-conference opponent that was not in the previous formula.  Ours is Wash.  So not only do we head into KC/Tenn after playing two teams off byes, but we’ve already played our extra game.  I’m glad this is week 5/6 rather than say 11/12 but by then maybe KC and Tenn would have played an extra game too.  
 

This seems unfair.

So instead of Washington as our NFC extra team, you'd rather have the Packers like the Chiefs, the Seahawks like the Steelers, or the Saints for the Titans.  Taking into account mini byes is almost impossible and it worked out pretty well for us with the WFT and not exactly scared of the Texans.

 

Lastly, how are the schedulers supposed to know how good a team is the next year?  Seriously,  The 49ers were in the SB in 2020 and with injuries was an easy defeat even though they had a top 5 defense.  You're grasping at something that is not there.  Two years ago, did the schedulers know for sure we would go from 10-6 to 13-3 and have the 2nd most scored pts in the league.  

 

Sorry bud, but its coincidence.  That's all.  I wasn't writing this sarcastically as you're not alone with these theories as we see them posted all the time.  I'm just giving you more info. that's all so wasn't knocking on you.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Houston 

 

@ KC on SNF

 

@ Tenn on MNF

 

 

Almost reversed from last season’s debacle 

If the PPP go down 

people will ask what’s wrong with _ _ _ _ 

[Big Blitz]

Tennessee is about to become a dumpster fire. 

 

Never draft Julio in fantasy.  He's hurt.  Seems to have zero chemistry (shocker) with Tannehill.   

 

AJ Brown is out again.   

 

They stink, sorry they just don't impress me and are in the actual worst division in the NFL.  

 

Unfortunately we play the Chiefs here when they are losing.......which could also be a good thing.  

 

 

 

Our schedule is quite favorable imo.  

[DrW]

Do you think that there is an equivalent of the OP on a Chief's web site complaining that they are in a disadvantage because the Bills played one fewer of their "regular" games?

[gobills404]

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

KC started Browns Ravens Chargers - that is about as tough a start as anyone has had. All legit playoff contenders