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I noticed this during the final preseason game, but Allen had a bunch of cupping therapy marks around on his neck, specifically on the right side of his neck.  This cupping therapy is usually used as pain relief from muscle issues.  These first two games, there seems to be an issues with the power Allen is throwing with.  Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there.  There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field.  I wonder if there is something going on with the right side of his neck.

 

Here is a picture from the preseason game where you can see the mark.

 

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10 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

I noticed this during the final preseason game, but Allen had a bunch of cupping therapy marks around on his neck, specifically on the right side of his neck.  This cupping therapy is usually used as pain relief from muscle issues.  These first two games, there seems to be an issues with the power Allen is throwing with.  Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there.  There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field.  I wonder if there is something going on with the right side of his neck.

 

Here is a picture from the preseason game where you can see the mark.

 

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The throws to Davis against Pittsburgh and Knox/Diggs against Miami suggests otherwise.

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13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there.  There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field. 

I mentioned that to someone regarding his throws not leading the receiver on a lot of throws. Last year, the ball seemed to be leading the receiver, this year they seem to be waiting for it, as if the ball is hanging up a bit. I didn't notice anything about an injury, but that may be a factor. There were a few that were over the top, but a greater number seemed to take forever to get there.

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15 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

I noticed this during the final preseason game, but Allen had a bunch of cupping therapy marks around on his neck, specifically on the right side of his neck.  This cupping therapy is usually used as pain relief from muscle issues.  These first two games, there seems to be an issues with the power Allen is throwing with.  Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there.  There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field.  I wonder if there is something going on with the right side of his neck.

 

Here is a picture from the preseason game where you can see the mark.

 

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Right. Cuz when he was flushed from the pocket on 3rd and goal, he escaped to the right sideline, turned fully with defenders crashing into him and threw a dart across his body to the middle of the endzone for a Touchdown to Stephon Diggs.

 

Wait.😳

 

nevermind..🤦‍♂️

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2 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

ok now i gotta google cupping therapy never heard of it

 

I just did. WTF???

 

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They look a bit like a pump device I purchased from a company that emailed my spam folder with a special once in a lifetime offer they guaranteed would produce results.

 

(It didn't)

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1 minute ago, RobbRiddick said:

 

I just did. WTF???

 

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They look a bit like a pump device I purchased from a company that emailed my spam folder with a special once in a lifetime offer they guaranteed would produce results.

 

(It didn't)

oh my and they doing this too his neck whatever happened to a good ole heating pad

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If you enlarge the photo and look at the contorted throwing motion it shows, there is no wonder he needs cupping therapy.  But OP, this is an interesting find and some good sleuthing on your part.  The photo definitely shows the mark of cupping therapy (yes, it's a real thing.  Google it) but hard to say if it's an indication that he has something affecting his throws.  Cupping therapy can be done for reasons other than pain management.

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3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Right. Cuz when he was flushed from the pocket on 3rd and goal, he escaped to the right sideline, turned fully with defenders crashing into him and threw a dart across his body to the middle of the endzone for a Touchdown to Stephon Diggs.

 

Wait.😳

 

nevermind..🤦‍♂️

 

That was a fantastic throw, without question.  But because he's made a couple of "vintage" Allen throws doesn't mean that he has not been throwing less accurately than last year overall and that he doesn't have any kind of injury.  Clearly, he's made some poor and inaccurate throws this year of the kind he did not make last year.  His long pass to Diggs in the 4th quarter was underthrown.  Had the ball been in front of Diggs, it was an easy TD.  Instead, Diggs had to adjust and come back for the "jump ball," making a fantastic catch.   He has also missed some open guys and thrown some "floaters" down field that were nearly intercepted, which were not throws he made last year.

 

There's no report or evidence of an Allen injury, and some swimmer-style neck therapy may or may not mean anything.  Let's hope it doesn't and that he's just off to a slow start and needs more game reps to get back on track.

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If he was hurt, I doubt they would continue running those planned runs...

 

I think the more likely explanation is he is making a more concerted effort to throw with some touch in order to throw a more catchable ball, and it is throwing off his timing in a game situation. Probably works a lot better in 7 on 7 or against air in practice.

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23 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Right. Cuz when he was flushed from the pocket on 3rd and goal, he escaped to the right sideline, turned fully with defenders crashing into him and threw a dart across his body to the middle of the endzone for a Touchdown to Stephon Diggs.

 

Wait.😳

 

nevermind..🤦‍♂️

 

If his neck wasn't bad, he probably would have thrown the ball so hard that it would have knocked Diggs down.

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His play so far this year is oddly reminding me of the 2 weeks he had the bad shoulder last year and was wearing the brace. He looked normal and played great against Green Bay, the 2 weeks later was really struggling placing a good portion of his throws in the short to intermediate. Wouldn't shock me if he tweaked something in the preseason game.

 

That said it really could even be a coincidence and this "cupping" thing is just a latest trend to increase blood flow or something.

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55 minutes ago, first_and_ten said:

I deal with pain every day and I must admit I have never heard of cupping therapy

It ranks right up there with the magical power of crystals and pyramids.

 

I.E., it's pseudo-science nonsense.

 

 

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I am an acupuncturist and use cupping daily.  It helps with stress, back tension, neck tension, etc.  "Wet Cupping" is when you puncture a point to make it bleed and put a cup on it. It helps with insomnia about 50% of the time.  There are several types but the most popular are "Fire Cupping" and the Korean pump cups.  Ignore the hit piece on Wikipedia about it (I heard a Ted Talk where there was a Wikipedia article on a book and the author disagreed with some of what they posted.  Wikipedia's response was that they "didn't recognize their authority".

 

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Geez you people are in the stone age. This is a VERY common therapy technique these days.  I have no idea if it works but it's been around, and REALLY popular, for a number of years....much the same era as that blue athletic tape you see players wearing on the back of their legs, etc.

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14 minutes ago, eball said:

 

High praise there.  :doh:

 

 

There are incompetent people in all fields of medicine.  And quite competent ones.  PT's also use it.  Movement therapists.  Acupuncturists.  Yes I have been to terrible chiros.  And I have been to brilliant ones as well. 

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There is a local well known doctor (Korean) who treated me with this therapy 10 years ago.   

It takes a bit to get used to but was effective.

He asked if he could use pictures for a book he was writing (promise of no face or other identifying shots) but I turned it down.

3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

 

 

I own one of those

 

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So that is how you get such a forked lounge.  I thought it was deal with a devil.

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50 minutes ago, CuseBill said:

If you enlarge the photo and look at the contorted throwing motion it shows, there is no wonder he needs cupping therapy.  But OP, this is an interesting find and some good sleuthing on your part.  The photo definitely shows the mark of cupping therapy (yes, it's a real thing.  Google it) but hard to say if it's an indication that he has something affecting his throws.  Cupping therapy can be done for reasons other than pain management.

Contorted throwing motion? From a frozen moment in time in a photograph? 

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