Back2Buff Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I noticed this during the final preseason game, but Allen had a bunch of cupping therapy marks around on his neck, specifically on the right side of his neck. This cupping therapy is usually used as pain relief from muscle issues. These first two games, there seems to be an issues with the power Allen is throwing with. Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there. There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field. I wonder if there is something going on with the right side of his neck. Here is a picture from the preseason game where you can see the mark. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Maybe he's dating an octopus? 2 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I deal with pain every day and I must admit I have never heard of cupping therapy 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I think he's trying too hard to put touch on some throws. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I noticed this during the final preseason game, but Allen had a bunch of cupping therapy marks around on his neck, specifically on the right side of his neck. This cupping therapy is usually used as pain relief from muscle issues. These first two games, there seems to be an issues with the power Allen is throwing with. Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there. There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field. I wonder if there is something going on with the right side of his neck. Here is a picture from the preseason game where you can see the mark. The throws to Davis against Pittsburgh and Knox/Diggs against Miami suggests otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Diggs finds those marks “adorable” 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffalo Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there. There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field. I mentioned that to someone regarding his throws not leading the receiver on a lot of throws. Last year, the ball seemed to be leading the receiver, this year they seem to be waiting for it, as if the ball is hanging up a bit. I didn't notice anything about an injury, but that may be a factor. There were a few that were over the top, but a greater number seemed to take forever to get there. Edited September 22, 2021 by Guffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I've used spooning therapy to relieve pain or stress sometimes. It a...works pretty well. 5 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 If you watched swimming in the Olympics, a lot of swimmers we're winning a lot of medals with the arm and back hickeys 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I had cupping therapy once, but the doctor kept asking me to cough 2 26 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Back and to the left.... Back and to the left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I noticed this during the final preseason game, but Allen had a bunch of cupping therapy marks around on his neck, specifically on the right side of his neck. This cupping therapy is usually used as pain relief from muscle issues. These first two games, there seems to be an issues with the power Allen is throwing with. Lots of throws seem to be almost short, or lack the power to get to the open player before the defender is getting there. There also seems to be a theme where he is avoiding the right side of the field. I wonder if there is something going on with the right side of his neck. Here is a picture from the preseason game where you can see the mark. Right. Cuz when he was flushed from the pocket on 3rd and goal, he escaped to the right sideline, turned fully with defenders crashing into him and threw a dart across his body to the middle of the endzone for a Touchdown to Stephon Diggs. Wait.😳 nevermind..🤦♂️ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 ok now i gotta google cupping therapy never heard of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: If you watched swimming in the Olympics, a lot of swimmers we're winning a lot of medals with the arm and back hickeys Jeepers, the more I think about it the more I realize I've done some weird s*** in my day. I regret nothing. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: Back and to the left.... Back and to the left. I submit there was a second spitter... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, billybob71 said: ok now i gotta google cupping therapy never heard of it I just did. WTF??? They look a bit like a pump device I purchased from a company that emailed my spam folder with a special once in a lifetime offer they guaranteed would produce results. (It didn't) 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, RobbRiddick said: I just did. WTF??? They look a bit like a pump device I purchased from a company that emailed my spam folder with a special once in a lifetime offer they guaranteed would produce results. (It didn't) oh my and they doing this too his neck whatever happened to a good ole heating pad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseBill Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 If you enlarge the photo and look at the contorted throwing motion it shows, there is no wonder he needs cupping therapy. But OP, this is an interesting find and some good sleuthing on your part. The photo definitely shows the mark of cupping therapy (yes, it's a real thing. Google it) but hard to say if it's an indication that he has something affecting his throws. Cupping therapy can be done for reasons other than pain management. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Right. Cuz when he was flushed from the pocket on 3rd and goal, he escaped to the right sideline, turned fully with defenders crashing into him and threw a dart across his body to the middle of the endzone for a Touchdown to Stephon Diggs. Wait.😳 nevermind..🤦♂️ That was a fantastic throw, without question. But because he's made a couple of "vintage" Allen throws doesn't mean that he has not been throwing less accurately than last year overall and that he doesn't have any kind of injury. Clearly, he's made some poor and inaccurate throws this year of the kind he did not make last year. His long pass to Diggs in the 4th quarter was underthrown. Had the ball been in front of Diggs, it was an easy TD. Instead, Diggs had to adjust and come back for the "jump ball," making a fantastic catch. He has also missed some open guys and thrown some "floaters" down field that were nearly intercepted, which were not throws he made last year. There's no report or evidence of an Allen injury, and some swimmer-style neck therapy may or may not mean anything. Let's hope it doesn't and that he's just off to a slow start and needs more game reps to get back on track. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey152 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 If he was hurt, I doubt they would continue running those planned runs... I think the more likely explanation is he is making a more concerted effort to throw with some touch in order to throw a more catchable ball, and it is throwing off his timing in a game situation. Probably works a lot better in 7 on 7 or against air in practice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Right. Cuz when he was flushed from the pocket on 3rd and goal, he escaped to the right sideline, turned fully with defenders crashing into him and threw a dart across his body to the middle of the endzone for a Touchdown to Stephon Diggs. Wait.😳 nevermind..🤦♂️ If his neck wasn't bad, he probably would have thrown the ball so hard that it would have knocked Diggs down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 He's probably been sleeping while wearing his helmet. I hope it wasn't Palmer's idea. Maybe Thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think he's trying too hard to put touch on some throws. I think that's exactly what it is. He's overthrown a few balls so he's overcompensating the touch throws....he's got to find the happy medium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Cupping has been used effectively for couple thousand years in multiple coultures. It is now even used by most chiropractors. It works on fascial restrictions thus promoting healing and relaxation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: It is now even used by most chiropractors High praise there. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 We used to just wear turtlenecks. 🤔 * 🎶Ain't nobody's business but our own...🎵 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 His play so far this year is oddly reminding me of the 2 weeks he had the bad shoulder last year and was wearing the brace. He looked normal and played great against Green Bay, the 2 weeks later was really struggling placing a good portion of his throws in the short to intermediate. Wouldn't shock me if he tweaked something in the preseason game. That said it really could even be a coincidence and this "cupping" thing is just a latest trend to increase blood flow or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: I deal with pain every day and I must admit I have never heard of cupping therapy It ranks right up there with the magical power of crystals and pyramids. I.E., it's pseudo-science nonsense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: I deal with pain every day and I must admit I have never heard of cupping therapy Swimmers do it a lot. It can be as much for recovery as pain mgt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1962 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I am an acupuncturist and use cupping daily. It helps with stress, back tension, neck tension, etc. "Wet Cupping" is when you puncture a point to make it bleed and put a cup on it. It helps with insomnia about 50% of the time. There are several types but the most popular are "Fire Cupping" and the Korean pump cups. Ignore the hit piece on Wikipedia about it (I heard a Ted Talk where there was a Wikipedia article on a book and the author disagreed with some of what they posted. Wikipedia's response was that they "didn't recognize their authority". 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Geez you people are in the stone age. This is a VERY common therapy technique these days. I have no idea if it works but it's been around, and REALLY popular, for a number of years....much the same era as that blue athletic tape you see players wearing on the back of their legs, etc. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Michael1962 said: the Korean pump cups. I own one of those 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, eball said: High praise there. There are incompetent people in all fields of medicine. And quite competent ones. PT's also use it. Movement therapists. Acupuncturists. Yes I have been to terrible chiros. And I have been to brilliant ones as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Az Bills fan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 My son was an Olympic diver and used cupping therapy regularly....increases blood flow into areas and relieves pain and tightness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I can’t tell if this thread is satire or not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, RobbRiddick said: I own one of those Clear your browser history, and you won't see it anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Looks bad. Maybe we can release him with an injury settlement? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 There is a local well known doctor (Korean) who treated me with this therapy 10 years ago. It takes a bit to get used to but was effective. He asked if he could use pictures for a book he was writing (promise of no face or other identifying shots) but I turned it down. 3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I own one of those So that is how you get such a forked lounge. I thought it was deal with a devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, CuseBill said: If you enlarge the photo and look at the contorted throwing motion it shows, there is no wonder he needs cupping therapy. But OP, this is an interesting find and some good sleuthing on your part. The photo definitely shows the mark of cupping therapy (yes, it's a real thing. Google it) but hard to say if it's an indication that he has something affecting his throws. Cupping therapy can be done for reasons other than pain management. Contorted throwing motion? From a frozen moment in time in a photograph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: I can’t tell if this thread is satire or not some of course is but there is such a therapy: https://www.webmd.com/balance/guide/cupping-therapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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