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Week 1: Steelers at Bills


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16 hours ago, billybrew1 said:

I'm already pre-proud of Singletary and Moss always taking the right blitzerĀ and always taking him out.

In empty sets, the Stealers won't get there in nearly enough time, someone is going to be very open. You can't cover Diggs, Beasley, Sanders and Davis, you just can't do it. I could envision a lot of PI calls against the Stealers trying KC's defense but we're healthy now and that ain't going to work.Ā Josh might even have his pick of open targets.

Could this game be the game that shows Bills fans the big gainer is part of the game plan this year? I mean not just throwing it but connecting on it..... with some regularity?

Is it going to be as Stephon says? Is it going to be Diggs? Ā Hmmmmm, sometimes. Mostly I think it's Sanders or even more likely, Davis.

I dont want Moss or Singletary having anything to do with blocking Watt.Ā  I want Williams for that.

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I'm a little confused on your big gainer line.Ā  Josh has always pushed the ball down the field with high air yards per attempt and air yards per completion (these did come down last year).Ā  So they have shown that hitting the big 20+ play is part of the game plan.

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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

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It's interesting that sacks don't quite line up with time to throw.Ā 

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For example, a lot of the QB who hold the ball the longest (Jackson 13, Murray 27, Allen 26) aren't the highest in sacks - because they're so mobile.

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Other mobile QB like Wilson 47 and Watson 49 did take a lot of sacks, I would guess reflecting them waiting for a throwing lane that never opened.

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Roethlisberger didn't throw a lot of picks (until the playoff game against the Brownies) but some of the QB who get rid of the ball quickly like Fitzpatrick and Smith, did so at the expense of INTs at times

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We helped Ben close to a regular season low on completion % and close to a regular season high on INT, let's do it again.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

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It's interesting that sacks don't quite line up with time to throw.Ā 

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For example, a lot of the QB who hold the ball the longest (Jackson 13, Murray 27, Allen 26) aren't the highest in sacks - because they're so mobile.

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Other mobile QB like Wilson 47 and Watson 49 did take a lot of sacks, I would guess reflecting them waiting for a throwing lane that never opened.

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Roethlisberger didn't throw a lot of picks (until the playoff game against the Brownies) but some of the QB who get rid of the ball quickly like Fitzpatrick and Smith, did so at the expense of INTs at times

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We helped Ben close to a regular season low on completion % and close to a regular season high on INT, let's do it again.

So Ben had little time to throw the ball last season and his O Line Ā has major changes and arguably one of the worst lines in the NFL.Ā  Doesnt seem like Big Ben going to have much time to throw.

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11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

So Ben had little time to throw the ball last season and his O Line Ā has major changes and arguably one of the worst lines in the NFL.Ā  Doesnt seem like Big Ben going to have much time to throw.

It'll be interesting to see how many holding calls go against Pittsburgh also. For all the hype surrounding Harris, not sure he's gonna be too productive behind an O line that for the most part is patchwork

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37 minutes ago, Old Man said:

Listening to sports radio here in Pittsburgh,Ā  they all but admit the Steelers don't have much of a chance. Even Mark Madden has changed his mind.

Which is funny because i'm the exact opposite. All this summer and even into the start of this week i've been adamant we'd boat race them,Ā and now i'm getting gun shy and losing my nerve. LOL.

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4 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

It's not. Most of the country will see the Bills game. Unless you have a regional game. I am getting Jets/Panthers.

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I am actually interested to see the Jets/Panthers game. Love the storylines with Wilson starting his first game vs Darnold looking for revenge. I'll be keeping a close eye on it during theĀ commercialsĀ 

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50 minutes ago, Old Man said:

Listening to sports radio here in Pittsburgh,Ā  they all but admit the Steelers don't have much of a chance. Even Mark Madden has changed his mind.

Looks to me like the Steelers are going to have a few roughĀ years ahead of themselvesĀ  All the teams in their conference look to have the future rock starĀ franchise QBs,Ā Ā Ā amazing the drop from being considered one of the best teams in the NFL a mereĀ 10 months ago.Ā  Now they have an aged over the hell QB they have to replace.Ā  Put Ben's age in context, he is the same class from the one and only JP Losman.Ā  IMO they kept Ben one year too many, this will make it 2 too many. They missed a heck of a QB class.

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1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

So Ben had little time to throw the ball last season and his O Line Ā has major changes and arguably one of the worst lines in the NFL.Ā  Doesnt seem like Big Ben going to have much time to throw.

I donā€™t know that Iā€™d characterize itĀ as Ben having little time to throw as I would he took little time to throw which was by design. He was seldom pressured and only sacked 13 times on over 600 passing attempts. What I find most interesting is that nearly 60% of his passes were short of the first down marker according to PFF. Such a departure from the Big Ben we were used to watching.

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4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I donā€™t know that Iā€™d characterize itĀ as Ben having little time to throw as I would he took little time to throw which was by design. He was seldom pressured and only sacked 13 times on over 600 passing attempts. What I find most interesting is that nearly 60% of his passes were short of the first down marker according to PFF. Such a departure from the Big Ben we were used to watching.

Good point. Ā I looked up JuJu Schuster average yards per reception, he had averaged 13.9 his first three years, last year it plummeted to 8.6.Ā  So yes Big Ben throwing it quickly (and short).Ā  We are really goingĀ to be able to compress them offensively.Ā  Run, Run and short pass....punt.

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11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Looks to me like the Steelers are going to have a few roughĀ years ahead of themselvesĀ  All the teams in their conference look to have the future rock starĀ franchise QBs,Ā Ā Ā amazing the drop from being considered one of the best teams in the NFL a mereĀ 10 months ago.Ā  Now they have an aged over the hell QB they have to replace.Ā  Put Ben's age in context, he is the same class from the one and only JP Losman.Ā  IMO they kept Ben one year too many, this will make it 2 too many. They missed a heck of a QB class.

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Steelers can only blame themselves. They let oline go to hell, then this past off season instead of fix it, they double down on skill guys. Not the Steeler way.Ā 

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Its a bit delusional.Ā 

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12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

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As long as they don't take a cheap shot as he's going to the ground...*cough*Pats*cough*

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I'd rather he stay upright in the pocket, but I'm sure Allen welcomes the challenge.

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Sometimes the Bills need a shot of toughness to get them into the game and I'm fine with Allen providing that.

3 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

Actually you can't blame him for saying that lol. What a dumb question though.Ā 

Why is it a dumb question?

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There are plenty of potential answers that make for good writing material to a reporter.

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5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

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Why is it a dumb question?

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There are plenty of potential answers that make for good writing material to a reporter.

I dunno, I'd be way more focused onĀ Josh's arm. Maybe they need another lesson on that Sunday if they forgot. I dont see Josh trying to gallop through the Steeler d as a focal point of the offense this week.

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1 minute ago, Bferra13 said:

I dunno, I'd be way more focused onĀ Josh's arm. Maybe they need another lesson on that Sunday if they forgot.Ā 

I'm sure they are... it doesn't make the question less valid. Josh can make defenses look silly in both aspects of the game. The guy stiff-armed Aaron Donald to the turf. He frustrates Joey Bosa with his size.

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1 hour ago, RichRiderBills said:

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Steelers can only blame themselves. They let oline go to hell, then this past off season instead of fix it, they double down on skill guys. Not the Steeler way.Ā 

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Its a bit delusional.Ā 

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Their star center and guard retired and was cut due to injury respectively.Ā  Im sure they did not expect Decastro who was on a possibke HOF tragectory to be gone and I suspect they didn't expect Pouncey to retire at only age 32.Ā 

That said you are correct they had time to address this like the Chiefs did. Makes no sense given this is Ben's last hurrah.

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1 minute ago, wjag said:

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Was wondering where all the Bills news was today.Ā  That seems... odd...

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This team probably doesn't need that much practice time. More about fitness, health, and mental prep on gameplan.Ā 

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3 hours ago, K-9 said:

I donā€™t know that Iā€™d characterize itĀ as Ben having little time to throw as I would he took little time to throw which was by design. He was seldom pressured and only sacked 13 times on over 600 passing attempts. What I find most interesting is that nearly 60% of his passes were short of the first down marker according to PFF. Such a departure from the Big Ben we were used to watching.

This is what washed up looks like. Ā They will not be able to hide this deficiencyĀ all year long. Ā Maybe not eVen through theĀ first game. Ā 

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17 minutes ago, FLFan said:

This is what washed up looks like. Ā They will not be able to hide this deficiencyĀ all year long. Ā Maybe not eVen through theĀ first game. Ā 

Not sure Iā€™d go as far as to say washed up, but it certainly seems to indicate a certain wearing down over the course of the season. The Steelers are fortunate to get us early in the season when his arm is presumably fresher, so Iā€™ll be interested to see just how many long passes he attempts during the game.Ā 

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