DrDawkinstein Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Bobby Hooks said: I’ve been to many, many games and never experienced this for myself and it’s always been a great experience. Not sure where people come up with stuff like your post. You see a random video of some drunkards and now people “rarely” have a good experience? That’s silly. Agreed. I rarely see any fights in the stands whether attending games in Buffalo, or traveling elsewhere. This definitely isnt the norm. People see 1 video on social media and assume it represents the millions of fans who attend games each week without incident. Just now, That's No Moon said: Because they aren't fighting about football. What a waste of money. Almost as dumb as buying a ticket and then getting so blackout drunk at the pregame tailgate, they dont even make it into the stadium. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I’ve been to many, many games and never experienced this for myself and it’s always been a great experience. Not sure where people come up with stuff like your post. You see a random video of some drunkards and now people “rarely” have a good experience? That’s silly. I also have been to many, many games and really only got pissed off with drunks once but I've SEEN tons of this stuff. Absolute tons. The end zones, particularly the scoreboard endzone, are not for the faint of heart IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I’m a bigger guy, bigger than most anyways, but I like to carry the mentality of a mouse. I try to deescalate these kinds of situations when I can. It doesn’t matter if you’re 5’5 or if you’re 6’7, I’m going to try and handle every situation peacefully. If you lay hands on me or my family or an innocent person, the tiger will come out of it’s cage though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 The result of too many fat asses unable to fit in assigned seats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: The sad reality is that attending an NFL game in person is rarely a great experience (yes even in Buffalo) because of drunken idiots and knuckleheads like this. What's more sad is this was a meaningless preseason game with fans of the same team fighting each other. I don't get to many games, but apart from the first game I ever went to, my experiences have generally been good. I am a non-drinker. While some fans nearby had beers, I've not seen many get really drunk. I haven't seen any out of control behavior. The first game I went to, I saw enough of that too last me a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I also have been to many, many games and really only got pissed off with drunks once but I've SEEN tons of this stuff. Absolute tons. The end zones, particularly the scoreboard endzone, are not for the faint of heart IMO. Never been in the endzones. Maybe that’s why, I need to be able to see the entire field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'm always confused why fans of the same team would fight in their home stadium. Too many Miller Lite "Tastes Great!" "Less Filling!" commercials over the years. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Must of been a disagreement on how much they were being paid to pretend to be Rams fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Never been in the endzones. Maybe that’s why, I need to be able to see the entire field. I've been there twice. One was fine, the other was not. The sides of the upper deck get interesting as well. The lower the concentration of long term season ticket holders the higher the likelihood of nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, zevo said: absolutely disgusting on all levels...this is why I prefer the comfort of my home when watching the games. you can't let stuff like this stop you from doing anything. people are idiots. just learn to enjoy the entertainment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I’ve been to many, many games and never experienced this for myself and it’s always been a great experience. Not sure where people come up with stuff like your post. You see a random video of some drunkards and now people “rarely” have a good experience? That’s silly. Yup. Had seasons and never witnessed this. Seat selection is of critical importance…there are areas that do not allow alcohol. Also, club areas are a blast and I have never seen anything like this there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Plumbers. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Yup. Had seasons and never witnessed this. Seat selection is of critical importance…there are areas that do not allow alcohol. Also, club areas are a blast and I have never seen anything like this there. Well yeah if you are sitting in family zones or clubs you are not going to see fights. When I was a kid I would see a fight every single time I went to a bills game. It's been much better in recent years but still no shortage of idiots around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Looks like every Bills game I've been to tbh. I have seasons for the first time. Should be interesting seeing the drunk idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseBill Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'm always confused why fans of the same team would fight in their home stadium. The same reason why there are civil wars in countries, I guess. There are always some people who focus on the differences between us instead of the things we have in common. Edited August 17, 2021 by CuseBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, teef said: you can't let stuff like this stop you from doing anything. people are idiots. just learn to enjoy the entertainment. I hear what he's saying though. You're there to enjoy the game and people really can spoil it for you. At some point, if you have enough bad experiences it stops being worth it for the entertainment. Bills games I will still do, but I will never go to a festival seating show again. As much of amateur hour a Bills game is, festival shows are 10x worse and after getting peed on and having someone try to drunkenly fight me for walking between his blankets in consecutive shows I decided I had enough. If people were over the top obnoxious in my immediate area a couple times I might think about avoiding the stadium and watching on TV. Such as it is the jackassery has been at a distance that I can observe and not be stuck in the middle of for the most part so it hasn't been too bad. I've brought my kids to games when they were young and didn't really think twice about it. I don't get the people commenting that they've never seen it or rarely see it though. A quick tour of the internet shows you how frequent it is, or at least was. According to the team they'd average 30 arrests and 140 ejections a game, the last season with fans in the stands it was down to 2 arrests and 42 ejections a game. Of course, last season the first game with fans in the stands was the Indianapolis game and there was a fight at that, even with the few number of people in the building. People seem to have lost some common sense over the last year or so so I will be very interested to see if the major unruly behavior ticks back up this year or if the team will be good enough that people won't want to get ejected badly enough that they will behave. Week 1 is a good test. It will be good weather so tailgating will be in full swing and there will be plenty of opposing fans with big mouths in the stands. Get through that with only 2 arrests and I might believe that the tide has turned. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/arrests-and-ejections-hit-all-time-low-at-buffalo-bills-games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) They all should get banned (including the lady who threw the drink and started the fight). It’s pathetic I have to be mindful of BS like that when I want to take family to a game. EJs rookie year myself, dad, aunt and bro went to the Bills/Pats game. A huge fight broke out right next to us an my aunt who was in her late 50’s at that time got knocked over by the guys who were brawling. My dad had a herniated disc at the time, so as I was trying to help my aunt I also had to make sure none of those d-bags got knocked into my dad. I’m still erked about it, and I couldn’t care less if alcohol was banned from the stadium entirely. Edited August 17, 2021 by TheyCallMeAndy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: They all should get banned (including the lady who threw the drink and started the fight). It’s pathetic I have to be mindful of BS like that when I want to take family to a game. EJs rookie year myself, dad, aunt and bro went to the Bills/Pats game. A huge fight broke out right next to us an my aunt who was in her late 50’s at that time got knocked over by the guys who were brawling. My dad had a herniated disc at the time also I was easy trying to help my aunt and keep one of those d-bags from getting knocked into my dad. I’m still erked about it, and I couldn’t care less if alcohol was banned from the stadium entirely. They probably will, but that doesn't really stop you from getting into the stadium. It just means you'll get charged with trespassing if they have to have security involved with you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, That's No Moon said: They probably will, but that doesn't really stop you from getting into the stadium. It just means you'll get charged with trespassing if they have to have security involved with you again. It’s a step at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Here's another angle.... sorry, I had to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, cage said: Here's another angle.... sorry, I had to It didn't occur to me that those were Rams fans fighting Chargers fans but that's what it was. The security response was....lacking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 We had seasons in the family section from the mid-80s to mid-90s, so I never really saw this as a kid. When I went back for games in my 20s and sat in the general population sections, I'd see this kind of action fairly regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: It didn't occur to me that those were Rams fans fighting Chargers fans but that's what it was. The security response was....lacking. I went back originally and re-watched because I thought it was Rams v Chargers as well. But if you watch the vid in the OP, it truly is Rams vs Rams. The guys in the front row all have Rams shirts on. edit: on THIRD review, looks like the front row is half and half. Who knows, who cares. It's LA. Edited August 17, 2021 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'm always confused why fans of the same team would fight in their home stadium. Have you read this board???? 😜 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Security took forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: They all should get banned (including the lady who threw the drink and started the fight). It’s pathetic I have to be mindful of BS like that when I want to take family to a game. EJs rookie year myself, dad, aunt and bro went to the Bills/Pats game. A huge fight broke out right next to us an my aunt who was in her late 50’s at that time got knocked over by the guys who were brawling. My dad had a herniated disc at the time, so as I was trying to help my aunt I also had to make sure none of those d-bags got knocked into my dad. I’m still erked about it, and I couldn’t care less if alcohol was banned from the stadium entirely. It really isn't the alcohol in the game but the tailgating before hand for the majority of those fools. Not dissing on all tailgaters - it is the pre-lubrication prior to the $12 beers that is causing this level of stoopid. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Security took forever. I think they were waiting for the folks to tire themselves out a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Rocky Landing said: I think they were waiting for the folks to tire themselves out a bit. I agree those were some mountain men swinging there......if that woulda been Buffalo security woulda been there in seconds throwing even bigger haymakers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I hear what he's saying though. You're there to enjoy the game and people really can spoil it for you. At some point, if you have enough bad experiences it stops being worth it for the entertainment. Bills games I will still do, but I will never go to a festival seating show again. As much of amateur hour a Bills game is, festival shows are 10x worse and after getting peed on and having someone try to drunkenly fight me for walking between his blankets in consecutive shows I decided I had enough. If people were over the top obnoxious in my immediate area a couple times I might think about avoiding the stadium and watching on TV. Such as it is the jackassery has been at a distance that I can observe and not be stuck in the middle of for the most part so it hasn't been too bad. I've brought my kids to games when they were young and didn't really think twice about it. I don't get the people commenting that they've never seen it or rarely see it though. A quick tour of the internet shows you how frequent it is, or at least was. According to the team they'd average 30 arrests and 140 ejections a game, the last season with fans in the stands it was down to 2 arrests and 42 ejections a game. Of course, last season the first game with fans in the stands was the Indianapolis game and there was a fight at that, even with the few number of people in the building. People seem to have lost some common sense over the last year or so so I will be very interested to see if the major unruly behavior ticks back up this year or if the team will be good enough that people won't want to get ejected badly enough that they will behave. Week 1 is a good test. It will be good weather so tailgating will be in full swing and there will be plenty of opposing fans with big mouths in the stands. Get through that with only 2 arrests and I might believe that the tide has turned. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/arrests-and-ejections-hit-all-time-low-at-buffalo-bills-games oh i completely understand the sentiment. i am among the group that thinks it's slightly overblown. i've been to countless games over the last 25 years, and have seen the fights, but it's limited. i think that's in part because the bills security has gotten far better. if fights even seem to be starting, they break it up pretty quickly. i've also mentioned on here a number of times that if someone can swing it, it's well worth spend more money on the tickets. the more you spend, the less likely you are to sit near mouth breathers. hell...i don't want to even be near the jackass that thinks its fun to slap his hands on the seats the entire game. i appreciate the noise, but the older i get, the less i want to hear that. i can't even imagine to going to a music festival at this point. i'll go to smaller shows or the local jazz fest, but i'm not sitting in lawn seating. i have some staff that loves country, and i hear stories of how people are drinking like it's their last day on earth. completely out of control, often underage. forget it. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, zevo said: absolutely disgusting on all levels...this is why I prefer the comfort of my home when watching the games. I am amused by the fact that some Bills fans are thinking that we're above this... clearly not, because when the Jets come to town this is normally what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: The zebra looking lady is a scumbag for throwing the drink that started the actual fight. Well somehow too, it looked like she ended up with her top ripped off. I'd say she should have been arrested for extremely indecent exposure. Glad to see security was all over it. Or maybe that was security? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 All this because of a disagreement over whether Bojorquez or Hekker will win the punter/holder job. One guy said Bojo can't control his kicks & is a terrible holder and the guy in the Donald shirt went nuts. 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Well somehow too, it looked like she ended up with her top ripped off. I'd say she should have been arrested for extremely indecent exposure. Glad to see security was all over it. Or maybe that was security? They better improve security by Super Bowl Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: They better improve security by Super Bowl Sunday. I would pay cash money to watch a fight among the Chet and Muffy crowd at a Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I won't be going to an NFL game anytime soon. Saw this all the time at the Ralph and have no interest in it. Thanks for sharing but most of the people on this board are WAY out of the age demographic where anyone associated with the NFL cares if those people are buying end zone seats or non-season ticket area upper deck seats. Those are for the young and rambunctious or people who don't mind that crowd. There are very few altercations like that in season ticket holder sections......which are the majority of the seats...........if only because there are ramifications for the ST holder. And of course, the premium seating basically none. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: The zebra looking lady is a scumbag for throwing the drink that started the actual fight. Good catch. I was wondering how it escalated so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Fights at a preseason game? That's dedication 👏 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, teef said: oh i completely understand the sentiment. i am among the group that thinks it's slightly overblown. i've been to countless games over the last 25 years, and have seen the fights, but it's limited. i think that's in part because the bills security has gotten far better. if fights even seem to be starting, they break it up pretty quickly. i've also mentioned on here a number of times that if someone can swing it, it's well worth spend more money on the tickets. the more you spend, the less likely you are to sit near mouth breathers. hell...i don't want to even be near the jackass that thinks its fun to slap his hands on the seats the entire game. i appreciate the noise, but the older i get, the less i want to hear that. i can't even imagine to going to a music festival at this point. i'll go to smaller shows or the local jazz fest, but i'm not sitting in lawn seating. i have some staff that loves country, and i hear stories of how people are drinking like it's their last day on earth. completely out of control, often underage. forget it. I’m also not worried about it the entire time. I’m sure there are people that are searching this stuff out and take note of every instance. Im focusing on the game and the positive vibes, which I find in abundance. I feel like a lot of people like moon are hyper focused on the negative aspects, and in a sea of 80k you’ll find it. It’s like the old saying, if you look for a fight you’re bound to find one. It’s way overblown, I go to multiple games a year with no issues, seems to be the same for many others. Maybe some folks need to start focusing on different things. I feel like people that go in with a bad attitude and their sights set on negativity will find it. I go for good times and find it every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 NFL was just fine without fans last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 The NFL has been gradually limiting tailgating and this kind of behavior is one of the reasons why. The others are profit and liability. Teams are trying to drive the tailgaters to team owned areas where they can sell them $12 beers. Not gonna have all that many drunks at that price. That means more money, less liability and fewer problems at the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) yeah if you listen closely it started off as a debate over micro-economics versus Keynesian theory application in pre-20th century agrarian cultures...economists..SMH..sigh Edited August 17, 2021 by First Round Bust 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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