BuffaloBaumer Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Great time today. And the wave?! Love it, I was like...only in Buffalo baby And Kumerow was killing it today! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Great time today. And the wave?! Love it, I was like...only in Buffalo baby The crowd was in mid-season form! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: What you don't see in this video of an Epenesa sack is Tremaine Edmunds dropping a gift-wrapped interception that was right in his grill......it bounced off his mitts and the deflection was almost caught by a DB. He's gotta' make those gift wrapped plays. Josh Allen had a rough day in 11-on-11's..........no doubt about it. Kumerow really stood out..........he looks like a different player.........crisp footwork and faster than I thought he could be. Looked way ahead of Hodgins and Stevenson. Obada and Rousseau looked good..........Obada got his tweets in this thread already but Rousseau had a nice sack of Trubisky that I haven't seen posted..........it was one of his patented moves where he maintains the level of the QB and when Trubisky stepped up Rousseau was left with a clean shot. Those are sack+fumble opps. McKenzie was by far the best looking of the punt returners. He was comfortable and confident. Stevenson and Powell didn't drop any but they weren't as smooth to receive it and quick after the catch. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: What I saw was Feliciano at LG and Ford at RG, switching from last year. Don't know if that's just for the cameras, for versatility or if it's longer term. I also thought the work Mckenzie put in catching punts has him as a lock for punt returner. He settled under the punt the best and I didn't see any bobbles. As long as he hangs on to the ball he will be the man. Also looks like he's in the plans for the offense. Knox spent a lot of time early in the practice working on catching. The TE coach was throwing tennis balls around with him and Know was just doing a lot of extra work. Seems like he's really putting some effort in. I will say the TE coach did get a good workout in today, he is all energy all the time. I'm not sure, but I think Tommy Sweeneys covid battle might have set him back physically a little. Just seemed that way to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Dang, that lady is 85? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: You’re kind of missing the point No, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Beerball said: No, not really. Not worth arguing about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Not worth arguing about I know. I'm right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: Just one man's opinion but I thought he was pretty sharp today. I have no other practice to compare it to but Allen looked good to me, as much as one can in a no-pads practice and missing his top 2 receivers. He had one bad throw where he forced a ball that should have been picked. Other than that he threw like 90% of his passes to Beasley and Kumerow and they were mostly on target. Gabe Davis got almost no targets, it was kind of weird. The d-line also looked quite good. But again without pads it's hard to make sweeping judgments. Remember folks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVGrown Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, wjag said: I'm always amazed at how truly big these guys are. I once stood side-by-side next to Bruce Smith when he was in civilan clothes and I couldn't get over how much bigger he was than me. Seeing the final frame of this video and Star walking up the tunnel you get a sense of how wide and thick his core is. He is a stump. This may sound ridiculous but it was actually the opposite for me. I was like either these guys aren't that big or I'm a big "b" ... 😂 I'm 5'10" and come from a family where the guys are all over 6'3" and the women are where I am or taller. Back in 2001 when my cousin and I went to our first Bills game (RJ vs Flutie in SD) and were around some of the players before and after the game, we were like wtf, they are just like us. I guess we had this expectation of feeling small next to them and it didn't happen. Obviously we are the exception and not the norm but I remember being disappointed. Edited July 31, 2021 by LVGrown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, LVGrown said: This may sound ridiculous but it was actually the opposite for me. I was like either these guys aren't that big or I'm a big "b" ... 😂 I'm 5'10" and come from a family where the guys are all over 6'3" and the women are where I am or taller. Back in 2001 when my cousin and I went to our first Bills game (RJ vs Flutie in SD) and were around some of the players before and after the game, we were like wtf, they are just like us. I guess we had this expectation of feeling small next to them and it didn't happen. Obviously we are the exception and not the norm but I remember being disappointed. I was recently thinking the same thing. Granted I'm a pretty decent sized guy, but I saw Ed Oliver at Tops a few weeks ago and was amazed at how big he wasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 52 minutes ago, LVGrown said: This may sound ridiculous but it was actually the opposite for me. I was like either these guys aren't that big or I'm a big "b" ... 😂 I'm 5'10" and come from a family where the guys are all over 6'3" and the women are where I am or taller. Back in 2001 when my cousin and I went to our first Bills game (RJ vs Flutie in SD) and were around some of the players before and after the game, we were like wtf, they are just like us. I guess we had this expectation of feeling small next to them and it didn't happen. Obviously we are the exception and not the norm but I remember being disappointed. I've been around players and felt the same, but then there are a few ive stood next/near and felt like a pebble. Like Edmunds is gigantic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 55 minutes ago, LVGrown said: This may sound ridiculous but it was actually the opposite for me. I was like either these guys aren't that big or I'm a big "b" ... 😂 I'm 5'10" and come from a family where the guys are all over 6'3" and the women are where I am or taller. Back in 2001 when my cousin and I went to our first Bills game (RJ vs Flutie in SD) and were around some of the players before and after the game, we were like wtf, they are just like us. I guess we had this expectation of feeling small next to them and it didn't happen. Obviously we are the exception and not the norm but I remember being disappointed. I had first row seats behind the Bills bench for a game about ten years, and I felt the same. I’m not a big guy, but I wasn’t floored by how big everyone was. I was also surprised by how many players just had big athletic builds, opposed to insane muscles. I’ve seen a lot of crazier looking muscles in local gyms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I also saw Bruce during his playing days at the old Pier waterfront bar. Didn’t look that tall but dude was built like a tank. Barrel-chested would be an under-statement. He was there with Ted Washington who was one of largest human beings I’d ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, yall said: If only we could point to a Sunday night or Thanksgiving primetime game against a hostile crowd as evidence to counter this narrative.... You seem to be missing the point. It's not road crowds that are the problem -- it's the expectations of the home crowd and wanting to put on a show for them. It gets in Josh's head. He's admitted that he gets too hyped up in front of our fans and needs to improve. The vast majority of Allen's best performances have been on the road. There's a reason for that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 4 hours ago, TheProcess said: I’m for that, but if Fromm puts anything on tape in preseason, he’s most likely gone if cut. The league is a sucker for untapped QB potential. Webb may not want to be done playing. And he’s not as big a flight risk if cut. No reason for Webb to move to QB coach if he can stick around. The league is a sucker but to put fromm on an active roster seems like a stretch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 4 hours ago, yall said: If only we could point to a Sunday night or Thanksgiving primetime game against a hostile crowd as evidence to counter this narrative.... Yes almost like we need him to play the Cowboys with Dak Prescott on Thanksgiving with a full stadium and be the best player on the field to change this narrative …..oh wait 🤔 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Yes almost like we need him to play the Cowboys with Dak Prescott on Thanksgiving with a full stadium and be the best player on the field to change this narrative …..oh wait 🤔 it’s almost as if people on message boards blow things entirely out of proportion when they hear things they don’t like. Do you think every professional athlete is immune to making mistakes on the big stage? Do you think they all completely tune out the crowds and perform the same under every circumstance? There’s a reason the term “big stage” exists. Some athletes choke. Some try and do too much. Some are affected by nerves. Some rise to the occasion and thrive on the big stage. All athletes are not created equal. I’ve seen Josh “try and do too much” on the big stage. The worlds has. We’ve also seen him thrive and overcome. Let’s just not act like he is immune to it. He’s not 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: No reason for Webb to move to QB coach if he can stick around. The league is a sucker but to put fromm on an active roster seems like a stretch. To be clear, my preference is that Fromm plays well in preseason and he sticks around as QB3 this year. Trubisky is likely here only 1 year and we need a capable backup when he’s gone. Capable being the operative word when speaking of Fromm. We don’t know what he has/does not have yet. Based on some of the early reports out of camp, Fromm has underwhelmed. If that continues, you cut both Fromm and Webb and keep one of them around on PS. Frees up an extra spot on the active roster for another player at a position of depth (e.g., WR, DL, OL, exclusive special teamer). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocky Landing Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheProcess said: To be clear, my preference is that Fromm plays well in preseason and he sticks around as QB3 this year. Trubisky is likely here only 1 year and we need a capable backup when he’s gone. Capable being the operative word when speaking of Fromm. We don’t know what he has/does not have yet. Based on some of the early reports out of camp, Fromm has underwhelmed. If that continues, you cut both Fromm and Webb and keep one of them around on PS. Frees up an extra spot on the active roster for another player at a position of depth (e.g., WR, DL, OL, exclusive special teamer). Even if Fromme plays well, there’s just no need for a third QB on this roster this season— too much talent fighting for spots as it is. By the time the season starts, most teams have their backup dialed in to their playbook. Unless he absolutely lights it up in preseason, Fromme will be perfectly safe on the PS. If he gets an offer from another team, they can counter offer if they feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Even if Fromme plays well, there’s just no need for a third QB on this roster this season— too much talent fighting for spots as it is. By the time the season starts, most teams have their backup dialed in to their playbook. Unless he absolutely lights it up in preseason, Fromme will be perfectly safe on the PS. If he gets an offer from another team, they can counter offer if they feel like it. Maybe we can get a 3rd for Squeaky Fromme 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: Maybe we can get a 3rd for Squeaky Fromme If we traded a 3rd round pick for a backup QB, would you not be furious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Beerball said: Trubisky's past has nothing to do with fan support and everything to do with FO and coaching support. Beerball, my good friend, you are spot on per usual! YE OLE would not be at all surprised to see Mitch play at a high level within THE MCBEANE MACHINE! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Day 4 for Parrino & Talbot…sorry am posting this so late in the day. Quick Hits: -Kumerow is the complete package, sneaky fast off the line, can see why Aaron Rodgers hated to see him go. Potential knock is his age for a #6 WR at age 29, but they think is non-issue. Can’t sneak him onto the practice squad this year. -Fans: felt like a game day environment. Pretty serious wave—in midseason form! Players were blown away by how many fans showed up for a practice! Dane Jackson shocked they knew who he was lol. -Rousseau on track to put up a fight for a starting job opposite Hughes—into the 4th day still getting 1st team reps—good sign. -Efe Obada continuing his showcase off the outside and has good inside moves as well. Basham predominantly on the 2nd team, and was ok today, nothing jumped out. —Hart at tackle is what he is, more down than up, roster spot not secure by any means. -Harrison Phillips is looking huge, settling into 1tech role, was 2nd team today. There’s more, but those were the main ones. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: it’s almost as if people on message boards blow things entirely out of proportion when they hear things they don’t like. Do you think every professional athlete is immune to making mistakes on the big stage? Do you think they all completely tune out the crowds and perform the same under every circumstance? There’s a reason the term “big stage” exists. Some athletes choke. Some try and do too much. Some are affected by nerves. Some rise to the occasion and thrive on the big stage. All athletes are not created equal. I’ve seen Josh “try and do too much” on the big stage. The worlds has. We’ve also seen him thrive and overcome. Let’s just not act like he is immune to it. He’s not Simply pointing out that every single QB in the league played in this environment and not many had the success he did cause if you’re still uncertain about Josh Allen as a successful qb in this league I honestly don’t know what to tell you….Tom Brady threw three Ints against the Packers in the second half and the reason they still won was cause the rest of his team helped him out….cause if you think the Buffalo Bills can get a better qb then this guy Id like to see you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 6 hours ago, yall said: If only we could point to a Sunday night or Thanksgiving primetime game against a hostile crowd as evidence to counter this narrative.... I don't think you get the point. 4 hours ago, yall said: I was recently thinking the same thing. Granted I'm a pretty decent sized guy, but I saw Ed Oliver at Tops a few weeks ago and was amazed at how big he wasn't. You should probably pick a fight with him... I'm sure you stand a chance. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Prospector said: If I knew how to post gifs, I would post the gif of Bill Murray in Kingpin pretending to be scared when Munson bowls a strike... but I don't know how to, so you win this round technology! Hit reply to topic or quote and GIF box pops up in upper left corner( above quote) 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I feel like people are overhyping Kumerow because of the Rodgers comment. He is what he is at this point and battling Hodgins and a rookie for a roster spot. I think if it's a pretty close competition, the Bills will opt to keep their draftees. Any kind of trade compensation for Kumerow would be welcome. His value seems to have peaked 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Now that is an unbelievable throw and catch! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Simply pointing out that every single QB in the league played in this environment and not many had the success he did cause if you’re still uncertain about Josh Allen as a successful qb in this league I honestly don’t know what to tell you….Tom Brady threw three Ints against the Packers in the second half and the reason they still won was cause the rest of his team helped him out….cause if you think the Buffalo Bills can get a better qb then this guy Id like to see you try God posts like this just irritate me. You are completely missing the points to which you're responding to. Who the ***** said Josh Allen can't be a successful QB in this league? I dunno, maybe you're new to being a Bills fan and you're happy with playoffs year after year, which I bet most of us believe we'll reach at this point. Some of us older folk (and full disclosure... I'm 40) have already experienced that and are seeking Ws on the biggest stage in sports. Don't conflate questions with doubts. It's a simple-minded approach to a complex conversation. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: God posts like this just irritate me. You are completely missing the points to which you're responding to. Who the ***** said Josh Allen can't be a successful QB in this league? I dunno, maybe you're new to being a Bills fan and you're happy with playoffs year after year, which I bet most of us believe we'll reach at this point. Some of us older folk (and full disclosure... I'm 40) have already experienced that and are seeking Ws on the biggest stage in sports. Don't conflate questions with doubts. It's a simple-minded approach to a complex conversation. Let’s see I sat through the Todd Collins era, I sat through the Rob Jonson era, I sat through the Drew Bledsoe era, I sat through the Trent Edwards era, I sat through the Kyle Orton era, I sat through the Ej Manuel era, and I sat through the Tyrod Taylor era, oh and Nathan Pederman…my Bills stripes where earned along time ago… Allen has more talent then all these guys combined and yet I never have seen a qb of this franchise nitpicked like this by yourself or others…this guy literally still has to be the Buffalo Bills running game too unless Singletary and Moss magically turn into Davis and Thomas it will be this way this year as well… Like I posted before let’s just trade this guy to Miami or Philly for Tua or Jalen and say 2 number ones and let’s see what team has a better record at the end of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said: Maybe we can get a 3rd for Squeaky Fromme We had that thread last year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Let’s see I sat through the Todd Collins era, I sat through the Rob Jonson era, I sat through the Drew Bledsoe era, I sat through the Trent Edwards era, I sat through the Kyle Orton era, I sat through the Ej Manuel era, and I sat through the Tyrod Taylor era, oh and Nathan Pederman…my Bills stripes where earned along time ago… Allen has more talent then all these guys combined and yet I never have seen a qb of this franchise nitpicked like this by yourself or others…this guy literally still has to be the Buffalo Bills running game too unless Singletary and Moss magically turn into Davis and Thomas it will be this way this year as well… Like I posted before let’s just trade this guy to Miami or Philly for Tua or Jalen and say 2 number ones and let’s see what team has a better record at the end of the year You began with Todd Collins, so you apparently became entrenched as a Bills fan in 1997... so you're either still in your 20s, someone who's switched teams, or someone who became a fan later in life. I won't speak for everyone else in their late 30s and over, but experiencing the combination of elation and heartbreak of 4 straight years of being the Super Bowl runner up monumentally affected me as a sports fan... and the impacts resonate nearly 3 decades later. I want Allen. I want him because I believe he'll be great. I want Allen because I believe he'll lead this team to multiple Super Bowls. But belief inherently leaves room for questions, which was all I was doing. Edited August 1, 2021 by transplantbillsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: My favorite part of this is how JA17 runs up to Knox to congratulate him. He is the definition of a team player and it’s easy to see why everyone loves him and rallies around him. He’s gonna lead us to atleast 3 Super Bowls. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Let’s see I sat through the Todd Collins era, I sat through the Rob Jonson era, I sat through the Drew Bledsoe era, I sat through the Trent Edwards era, I sat through the Kyle Orton era, I sat through the Ej Manuel era, and I sat through the Tyrod Taylor era, oh and Nathan Pederman…my Bills stripes where earned along time ago… Allen has more talent then all these guys combined and yet I never have seen a qb of this franchise nitpicked like this by yourself or others…this guy literally still has to be the Buffalo Bills running game too unless Singletary and Moss magically turn into Davis and Thomas it will be this way this year as well… Like I posted before let’s just trade this guy to Miami or Philly for Tua or Jalen and say 2 number ones and let’s see what team has a better record at the end of the year were those really era's? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, GETTOTHE50 said: My favorite part of this is how JA17 runs up to Knox to congratulate him. He is the definition of a team player and it’s easy to see why everyone loves him and rallies around him. He’s gonna lead us to atleast 3 Super Bowls. Honestly, I’ll just be happy with ONE! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Man it warms my heart seeing 30,000 people down there at the stadium. I wish Kim and Terry let even more for the next one. You know Buffalo will show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, nucci said: were those really era's? More like errors. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: You seem to be missing the point. It's not road crowds that are the problem -- it's the expectations of the home crowd and wanting to put on a show for them. It gets in Josh's head. He's admitted that he gets too hyped up in front of our fans and needs to improve. The vast majority of Allen's best performances have been on the road. There's a reason for that. It cracks me up when people react negatively to these facts (100% facts) over and over again. Folks just can't handle it. 9 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Yes almost like we need him to play the Cowboys with Dak Prescott on Thanksgiving with a full stadium and be the best player on the field to change this narrative …..oh wait 🤔 Again, missing the point. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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