Richard Sherman Arrested

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Dr.Sack said:

None? Well in that case however they diagnose when you are still alive. 

You Don't get diagnosed while you're alive.. 

 

Just labeled as a suspected case

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

That's your third serial killer reference today.

 

 

Fredo deserved to die.

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, klos63 said:

It's almost like some courts value human life more than brick and mortar. Imagine that.

Because no one is ever in a building or hurt in a fire. arson is a very violent crime.  

[Demongyz]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

It's almost like some courts value human life more than brick and mortar. Imagine that.

Many people died in all the riots last year.  Don't you forget it.  People care about their lives, their businesses, their livelihoods.

You need to stop being so glib about these things, these are real people.

 

I hope Sherman gets the help he needs, and I hope he succeeds.  I'm happy nobody was hurt.

 

Good luck Richard.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

No idea. what does the bible say ?
 

 

Thanks for asking.  It’s for it.

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

No idea. what does the bible say?

 

Whatever I think it says...no need to actually read it. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by jeremy2020

[Royale with Cheese]

That 911 dispatcher needs to be replaced.

[TheBrownBear]

Might be getting a little ahead of ourselves with the CTE talk.  Could just be a dude with depressive tendencies and a drinking problem.  I have a couple of friends who unfortunately occasionally find themselves in similar situations when they go on their benders.  Otherwise good people, but not when they are on the drink.

[Gugny]

3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

No idea. what does the bible say ?
 

 

That a woman can get pregnant without having sex?

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

That a woman can get pregnant without having sex?

To cut off part of your Peter for the Lord?

Edited July 15, 2021 by Buffalo716

[sullim4]

I live about 15 minutes away from the scene of the crash.

 

That construction zone on SR-520 near the Microsoft campus has had a number of crashes - the lanes narrow and shift in that area to allow for the construction of light rail and accompanying pedestrian bridges in the area.  I can imagine it's quite a challenge to successfully navigate that drunk, particularly if you are speeding or if there is a car on the other side of you.

 

I would also be very surprised if there is race bias involved here.  While the neighborhood is well to do, that area just to the east of Microsoft where Sherman's in laws live is deep blue (Biden won by 48-50 points in those precincts), very diverse, and the Redmond police department has a very good reputation locally, certainly better than SPD or the King County Sheriff's Office.  When your in laws call the cops on you because you're trying to break into your home, the problem generally isn't the cops in that situation.

[JoPoy88]

9 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Do you think if he had scored higher on his SATs (a much better indicator of intelligence) that he would have been eligible for bail?  Is he just too stupid for bail?

i was replying to two separate statements it’s my bad i didnt separate the quotes.

 

edit: fact just remains no one should be reading into “bail denied” as meaning anything other than a procedural issue. A few posters keyed on that no bail issue and assumed the worst. All i am saying is that’s not necessarily the case. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by JoPoy88

[TroutDog]

8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

There were several non-police  witnesses to Sherman's extensive  activities that night--including his family, who called the cops.  What racist knee-jerk conclusion are being made about that?

There are myriad examples at the beginning of the thread. In addition, those were made at the outset, prior to the witnesses being known/discussed. 

[JMF2006]

8 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

Sherman surely is smart enough to know he f'd up hard 

 

Usually not until  after you sober up when Dr Jekyl leaves and  Mr Hyde returns  

[StHustle]

14 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

non-story?  Actually sadly it is.   Just a non-story because he drove into a wall instead of killing someone.

 

Yeah because of fame and $ he will get a slap on the wrist.  What would happen if that were you or me?

 

If it were you or me you think we would get jail time for the same offenses? You clearly are clueless about the legals system.

[vincec]

So,

 

Sherman gets drunk. Something goes down and he angrily leaves to go confront his in-laws. His girlfriend tries to stop him, fails, and calls the police to say he’s unarmed and suicidal.

He crashes his car into a median (probably because he’s drunk), and then walks the rest of the way to his in-laws. When he gets there he tries to break in and they call the police.

The police arrive and he tries to flee. When that fails he tries to fight them and a dog has to be used to help subdue him.

 

Or as we call it around here… Friday night.

[dollars 2 donuts]

20 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I don’t know about good dude, but he’s always been relatively smart.  He’s a Stanford grad., and you don’t get in there even if you’re are a great athlete unless you’re very bright.  
 

this was a surprise to me.  I never pegged him for a dumb decision, but my guess and just a guess befor knowing anything, it’s a relationship that became ugly  and trying to get something back important to him.

 

who knows?  She could have done something rotten and he handled badly.  Then again, he not be who he portrays himself to be either.  It will eventually come out.  It always does at some point.

 

For his sake, I hope he was just a jolted guy trying to get back a momento or something.

 

20 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I don’t know about good dude, but he’s always been relatively smart.  He’s a Stanford grad., and you don’t get in there even if you’re are a great athlete unless you’re very bright.  
 

this was a surprise to me.  I never pegged him for a dumb decision, but my guess and just a guess befor knowing anything, it’s a relationship that became ugly  and trying to get something back important to him.

 

who knows?  She could have done something rotten and he handled badly.  Then again, he not be who he portrays himself to be either.  It will eventually come out.  It always does at some point.

 

For his sake, I hope he was just a jolted guy trying to get back a momento or something.

Domestic violence is terrible, Guns, but what you referenced above concerning his intelligence and this fall that he is experiencing makes me also think of mental instability and early onset CTE.

 

There are multiple reasons to be sad about this story, regardless of any prior feelings I might have had against Richard Sherman.

 

still wouldn’t mind seeing the Bills “help”, if possible.

Edited July 15, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts

[Kwai San]

I have edited my original post after genuflecting my initial careless use of descriptors. 

 

OK - first off - I will admit this will come across elitist but the "RICH ENTITLED ATHLETE" mentality he exhibits tends to make me believe more than not he has a deficit in his character make up.  I know it sounds morally superior but the optics to me are hard to shake.  Compound that with the fact that he is in the NFL....pressures abound and what not and it seem like quite a few players make some of the damndest decisions known.

 

Using the word "thug" was wrong on my part - I admit that - however in my eye he is just another one of those "I'm a rich NFL player, I can and will do what I want".  I am sorry for any angst I created by my initial broad brush depiction.  I also am sorry for being "that" guy.

 

Kwai

Edited July 15, 2021 by Kwai San

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, TroutDog said:

There are myriad examples at the beginning of the thread. In addition, those were made at the outset, prior to the witnesses being known/discussed. 

 

How many are in a myriad?

 

A quick review of the first 4 pages of the thread turned up 1 poster who used the word "thug" who subsequently was jumped by several other posters, forcing him to  beg public forgiveness for using the word at all.  Another poster called Sherman a racist.  The rest was: let's not jump to conclusions, he  could be in some trouble with this, Sherman is a very intelligent guy, and stuff about the relevance of SAT scores.....

[BillsShredder83]

14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Dispatch needs firing or moved off the phones, what a nasty broad!  shes gunna get someone killed from her little power trip

[Rico]

36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

How many are in a myriad?

 

A quick review of the first 4 pages of the thread turned up 1 poster who used the word "thug" who subsequently was jumped by several other posters, forcing him to  beg public forgiveness for using the word at all.  Another poster called Sherman a racist.  The rest was: let's not jump to conclusions, he  could be in some trouble with this, Sherman is a very intelligent guy, and stuff about the relevance of SAT scores.....

I might’ve said thug too, but I was busy at the time.

[John from Riverside]

12 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Dispatch needs firing or moved off the phones, what a nasty broad!  shes gunna get someone killed from her little power trip

The compassion of this dispatcher is disappointing to say the least

Edited July 15, 2021 by John from Riverside

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 hours ago, StHustle said:

 

If it were you or me you think we would get jail time for the same offenses? You clearly are clueless about the legals system.

Learn to read, did I write jail time?  I wrote he will get a "slap on the wrist".

 

Lets see, drunk driving, hit and run, resisting arrest, officer and Sherman minor injuries.,,wont even go into the burglary domestic violence.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Domestic violence is terrible, Guns, but what you referenced above concerning his intelligence and this fall that he is experiencing makes me also think of mental instability and early onset CTE.

 

There are multiple reasons to be sad about this story, regardless of any prior feelings I might have had against Richard Sherman.

 

still wouldn’t mind seeing the Bills “help”, if possible.

 

I mean, sounds like he was drunk and having a family argument. Not sure much more needs to be read into it than that.

 

There was no real "violence", it is just technically classified as DV.

 

Call it a real bad day/week.

[Seasons1992]

Two bottles of hard alcohol........that'll turn ANYONE into a raging lunatic, or dead. 

 

Eric Clapton from the '70's thinks Mr. Sherman has a problem.

[MJS]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I mean, sounds like he was drunk and having a family argument. Not sure much more needs to be read into it than that.

 

There was no real "violence", it is just technically classified as DV.

 

Call it a real bad day/week.

Agreed. Man I hate it when people bring up CTE anytime a player does something wrong.

[Royale with Cheese]

38 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Dispatch needs firing or moved off the phones, what a nasty broad!  shes gunna get someone killed from her little power trip

 

She was awful.  Sherman's wife is obviously panicked and the dispatcher was just being condescending....what a (rhymes with bunt).

[machine gun kelly]

2 hours ago, vincec said:

So,

 

Sherman gets drunk. Something goes down and he angrily leaves to go confront his in-laws. His girlfriend tries to stop him, fails, and calls the police to say he’s unarmed and suicidal.

He crashes his car into a median (probably because he’s drunk), and then walks the rest of the way to his in-laws. When he gets there he tries to break in and they call the police.

The police arrive and he tries to flee. When that fails he tries to fight them and a dog has to be used to help subdue him.

 

Or as we call it around here… Friday night.

Vince, I don’t have time to look through every post and I’m casually listening to the news.  I refuse to be a tmz guy so thank you for the summary as I was only getting bits and pieces.

 

That's kind of what I’m hearing so basically drunk driving is awful and thankfully only his car was damaged.  It makes sense several states don’t allow bail with DV.  They are worried a person will go back for horrible outcomes.

 

We’ll find out later the details, but sounds like he should’ve made that one more call to a friend or family member to talk him off the ledge.  At least his girlfriend has stuck up for him.  I want to believe the best for him, but if not, it’s going to come out.  Either way the details always comes out eventually.

[dollars 2 donuts]

19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I mean, sounds like he was drunk and having a family argument. Not sure much more needs to be read into it than that.

 

There was no real "violence", it is just technically classified as DV.

 

Call it a real bad day/week.

 

 

I hope so, Doc, and it is probably spot on.

 

However, in this day and age I can't help but go there when athletes get...erratic. 

[TroutDog]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

How many are in a myriad?

 

A quick review of the first 4 pages of the thread turned up 1 poster who used the word "thug" who subsequently was jumped by several other posters, forcing him to  beg public forgiveness for using the word at all.  Another poster called Sherman a racist.  The rest was: let's not jump to conclusions, he  could be in some trouble with this, Sherman is a very intelligent guy, and stuff about the relevance of SAT scores.....

Ok. I’m not going to argue. I appreciate many things you post and this doesn’t contribute to the conversation. Agree to disagree. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, TroutDog said:

Ok. I’m not going to argue. I appreciate many things you post and this doesn’t contribute to the conversation. Agree to disagree. 

 

Someone test @TroutDog for CTE.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

He may be depressed with the realization that his career is either over or his options are like a vet min deal with the jets or something. Not easy to deal with, some players do turn to alcohol. I think Thurman went through it. 

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He may be depressed with the realization that his career is either over or his options are like a vet min deal with the jets or something. Not easy to deal with, some players do turn to alcohol. I think Thurman went through it. 

 

I agree 100% with this.

[DrDawkinstein]

13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He may be depressed with the realization that his career is either over or his options are like a vet min deal with the jets or something. Not easy to deal with, some players do turn to alcohol. I think Thurman went through it. 

 

This 100%.

 

Players dont need CTE or mental illness to struggle greatly with the transition to the end of their career and out of the league.

[Royale with Cheese]

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He may be depressed with the realization that his career is either over or his options are like a vet min deal with the jets or something. Not easy to deal with, some players do turn to alcohol. I think Thurman went through it. 

 

I think is probably right.

[BigDingus]

23 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Still, no bail is ridiculous.   He has a constitutional right to reasonable bail, and unless there are some really unusual circumstances, he isn't likely to flee the country or go on some rampage killing people.   

 

Personally, I've never liked the guy.  The media made him their darling because he was articulate and funny, but the truth is that what he a loud mouth with an inflated sense of his own importance.   There's a reason he didn't stay in Seattle, and the reason is that he's difficult to deal with.  I mean, if you were running a football team, and you were evaluating just on-field football skill, why wouldn't you want to keep a Richard Sherman?  

 

Still, he shouldn't be in jail. 

 

No bail is definitely weird.

 

I work at a jail in Texas (just got off shift), and I see bail for allllllll ranges of crimes, misdemeanors and felonies. Domestic Assaults usually start at $1,000 & a Class A misdemeanor, though I have no idea how Washington ranks their charges or what constitutes a felony. 

 

Still, you see people come in for child porn get $20,000 - $70,000 bonds set for them, murderers get $150,000 - $500,000 bonds set for them, so why did he get denied ANY amount whatsoever?

I'm fine with him being arrested & sitting in jail until he's fully processed, but why he wasn't given a chance to bond out is very strange.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

No bail is definitely weird.

 

I work at a jail in Texas (just got off shift), and I see bail for allllllll ranges of crimes, misdemeanors and felonies. Domestic Assaults usually start at $1,000 & a Class A misdemeanor, though I have no idea how Washington ranks their charges or what constitutes a felony. 

 

Still, you see people come in for child porn get $20,000 - $70,000 bonds set for them, murderers get $150,000 - $500,000 bonds set for them, so why did he get denied ANY amount whatsoever?

I'm fine with him being arrested & sitting in jail until he's fully processed, but why he wasn't given a chance to bond out is very strange.

 

Do you think it's because he mentioned suicide and it's a safety precaution to keep him in jail?

[Nitro]

2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

No bail is definitely weird.

 

I work at a jail in Texas (just got off shift), and I see bail for allllllll ranges of crimes, misdemeanors and felonies. Domestic Assaults usually start at $1,000 & a Class A misdemeanor, though I have no idea how Washington ranks their charges or what constitutes a felony. 

 

Still, you see people come in for child porn get $20,000 - $70,000 bonds set for them, murderers get $150,000 - $500,000 bonds set for them, so why did he get denied ANY amount whatsoever?

I'm fine with him being arrested & sitting in jail until he's fully processed, but why he wasn't given a chance to bond out is very strange.

It is their state law in regarding domestic disturbances and no bail

[DrDawkinstein]

9 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

No bail is definitely weird.

 

I work at a jail in Texas (just got off shift), and I see bail for allllllll ranges of crimes, misdemeanors and felonies. Domestic Assaults usually start at $1,000 & a Class A misdemeanor, though I have no idea how Washington ranks their charges or what constitutes a felony. 

 

Still, you see people come in for child porn get $20,000 - $70,000 bonds set for them, murderers get $150,000 - $500,000 bonds set for them, so why did he get denied ANY amount whatsoever?

I'm fine with him being arrested & sitting in jail until he's fully processed, but why he wasn't given a chance to bond out is very strange.

 

This was clarified earlier in the thread. They dont set bail for anything related to Domestic until after they see a judge. So he had to be fully Processed first.