machine gun kelly Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 11 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I miss Farley so much. You would. just kidding my west coast friend. I’m not even going down the Ertz road as Im even getting sick of talking about it. I don’t see Hayden Hurst working for a simple reason. It’s a leap thinking drafting Pitts means Hurst is expendable as they just lost Julio. That means 12 and 13 personnel is more viable to ATL. ATL has two TE’s plus a very good WR. Makes sense. He would be a fun add. We added just enough cap space to add a TE. I don’t think it had anything to do with contract extensions. Time will tell. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Boxcar said: Didn't Roseman want a super high pick for him initially? I've read he's incredibly stubborn, so maybe he's just not budging, which doesn't make a lot of sense. Could also be holdups with contract restructure, amount of salary that the Eagles will retain, etc. Ertz is a clear upgrade at a position that they've stated they want to improve, so I have little doubt they are trying to get it done. I think you're right, they need to give Roseman something. And yes, the contract for Ertz has got to be difficult- which you would want done before trading for him. Ertz' fair market value is hard to gauge because of the poor year and injuries he just had. My hope is that the Bills have told Nelson to hold off signing until Ertz is moved. And the Bills are trying to package one of our DL who aren't at camp (preferably Butler) in for Ertz. Butler and a 5th for Ertz would allow Roseman to save face and would free up the funds for the Bills to make a run for both Ertz and Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why? Lol. Because the Bills don't leak this stuff...and particularly not to an Instagram model wannabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 11 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Always thought OJ Howard would be a great upside guy if he put it all together. OJ would be great, not sure TB would let him go though honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Same color as 1000% positive. fuchsia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 If I had more time on my hands (and any musical talent whatsoever), I'd make a Weird Al version of this called "Everybody Ertz" for these threads. Anyways, fill it in yourself. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfball323 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 The addition of Hollister and getting Sweeney back has me optimistic about TE this year. Along with Knox, I feel comfortable not spending the $$ on an aging out Tight End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 12 hours ago, eball said: Color me skeptical of Josina having any inside info on the Bills. I just pretend I work for FO so she keeps sending me those pics I like 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 12 hours ago, DJB said: Another Ertz thread? My thoughts exactly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I hope they keep 3 TE’s . Dawson Knox, Jake Hollister, and another pass catching TE. Who ever that may be. Let Spencer Brown play the Lee Smith role. And he’s obviously the swing tackle. Have a TE and Tommy Doyle on PS to be brought up for injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Frat-Train said: “Done deal” Australian for... conjecture. But have we had a Jason LaConjecture sighting, yet? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Augie said: She may have a hairdresser with an opinion? Our Bills don’t spill the beans like Rex did. NOT saying Ertz will never be a Bill, just that her conversation was speculation. . Didn't look that way to me. "As of conversations today, my understanding is that ..." is not a way to introduce speculation. On the other hand, "apprehensions with production & consistency at the #Bills tight end spot are still a topic of conversation," is very very unspecific about anything maybe happening in terms of bringing anybody in. You can't assume that will happen from what she says here. Edited June 11, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said: I think you're right, they need to give Roseman something. And yes, the contract for Ertz has got to be difficult- which you would want done before trading for him. Ertz' fair market value is hard to gauge because of the poor year and injuries he just had. My hope is that the Bills have told Nelson to hold off signing until Ertz is moved. And the Bills are trying to package one of our DL who aren't at camp (preferably Butler) in for Ertz. Butler and a 5th for Ertz would allow Roseman to save face and would free up the funds for the Bills to make a run for both Ertz and Nelson. Trading Butler would only save us $1.5M, though some of the dead money could be delayed till next year. Both Ertz and Nelson is a very unlikely possibility, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said: My hope is that the Bills have told Nelson to hold off signing until Ertz is moved. And the Bills are trying to package one of our DL who aren't at camp (preferably Butler) in for Ertz. Butler and a 5th for Ertz would allow Roseman to save face and would free up the funds for the Bills to make a run for both Ertz and Nelson. The Nelson interest is entirely fan generated. There's no indication that the Bills are unhappy with Wallace and Jackson as their potential #2 CBs. CB2 is never going to be a priority for this regime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Trading Butler would only save us $1.5M, though some of the dead money could be delayed till next year. Both Ertz and Nelson is a very unlikely possibility, IMO. How do you figure $1.5M? Someone on here had said cutting him released $3.2M and trading him was worth $4M. I see on salarysport Butler is listed as total $4.3M. But, yes, I agree, getting both Ertz and Nelson is very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The Nelson interest is entirely fan generated. There's no indication that the Bills are unhappy with Wallace and Jackson as their potential #2 CBs. CB2 is never going to be a priority for this regime. Not necessarily. This regime has signed a vet CB each offseason and has not done that yet this year. To think they still would is not too far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The Nelson interest is entirely fan generated. There's no indication that the Bills are unhappy with Wallace and Jackson as their potential #2 CBs. CB2 is never going to be a priority for this regime. As Yolo says, not entirely fan generated. It was reported by Jeremy Fowler of ESPN in a tweet that was forwarded by Nelson, that the Bills were one of 14 teams that showed interest and have contacted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, eball said: Because the Bills don't leak this stuff...and particularly not to an Instagram model wannabe. There's other people involved in a trade though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I think it's very possible the Bills are looking, but I think Beane is being very careful of cost, not just draft capital but cap room. Yes, he created some decent cap room by reworking Diggs' contract, but the Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds negotiations are looming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, eball said: Because the Bills don't leak this stuff...and particularly not to an Instagram model wannabe. This is an insultingly low under-estimation of how tied into players, and especially anything having to do with the Philadelphia Eagles, Josina Anderson is. She was the FIRST PERSON Shady talked to when he was traded to the Bills. She always has the inside story from players. She's not 100%, but she is pretty reliable when it comes to this stuff, unlike a lot of other "professionals" out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Always thought OJ Howard would be a great upside guy if he put it all together. So could Knox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 hours ago, Rocket94 said: Hurst would be fantastic! How about Hertz? Hurst and Ertz! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Georgie said: I like the Hurst idea....cheaper....younger...but neither he nor Ertz is a great blocker Do TE's even block much anymore? Guys like Lee Smith are dinosaurs in today's game. TE's are about getting down the seam and making big chunk plays. At least they are on most teams not named the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Do TE's even block much anymore? Guys like Lee Smith are dinosaurs in today's game. TE's are about getting down the seam and making big chunk plays. At least they are on most teams not named the Buffalo Bills. In certain schemes they do. Kelce isn't asked to block as much as Kittle for example, but the top guys are all very capable blockers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: So could Knox Howard has mostly been "injury bug" type stuff.....Knox "somethings just missing"....but your right, both "what ifs" just in different ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Howard has mostly been "injury bug" type stuff.....Knox "somethings just missing"....but your right, both "what ifs" just in different ways. We know what's missing with Knox...hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 15 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Always thought OJ Howard would be a great upside guy if he put it all together. Would love to have him, but at this point he’s proven to be nothing more than Knox, not sure that’s the guy you hang your hat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Maybe they always planned to do the deal in June once they created cap space. This is probably the most likely scenario. I mean Ertz started following Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen . I'm guessing this has been done for a while. I think Sweeney is going to Philly as part of the trade as well. I feel I’d he’s traded, it’s to the Bills. Hope Sweeney isn’t part of the deal. Think he can be a good player. Especially if we give them a draft pick. 5th rounder tops and that’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 If not Ertz, what impact TE’s are still or likely available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: This is an insultingly low under-estimation of how tied into players, and especially anything having to do with the Philadelphia Eagles, Josina Anderson is. She's speculating about things inside the Bills' building, where the poster does not think she has any sources. If she were reporting based upon a source in the Eagles organization then she would be speculating as to "apprehension" in Buffalo without having direct knowledge of it. I don't see apprehension, I see a goal to improve at all positions when possible. If her source is in Philly, she's a poor writer. If the Bills were "apprehensive" they would have overpaid for a TE in FA. Either way, I don't see anything rising to the point of "insulting" or any other emotional response you have to that post. Edited June 11, 2021 by ndirish1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Either way, I don't see anything rising to the point of "insulting" or any other emotional response you have to that post. Emotional response? lol, ok. @eball discrediting her reporting by referring to her as merely a "wannabe IG model" is an insult to someone who has worked in their field as long as she has. There is no emotion from me on that statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Emotional response? lol, ok. @eball discrediting her reporting by referring to her as merely a "wannabe IG model" is an insult to someone who has worked in their field as long as she has. There is no emotion from me on that statement. Would you calm down? I can sense the anger in this post. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Would you calm down? I can sense the anger in this post. Well now Im furious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExWNYer Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 7 hours ago, mjt328 said: My guess is that Beane made an insulting offer to the Eagles, and they are holding out as long as possible, hoping he caves and gives them something more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: This is an insultingly low under-estimation of how tied into players, and especially anything having to do with the Philadelphia Eagles, Josina Anderson is. She was the FIRST PERSON Shady talked to when he was traded to the Bills. She always has the inside story from players. She's not 100%, but she is pretty reliable when it comes to this stuff, unlike a lot of other "professionals" out there. And her opinion certainly carries more weight than the posters on this board. I am not what the vitriol against Anderson is all about in this thread so I will not characterize it, but it is noticeable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 21 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: If the bills are interested in trading for him, then I wonder what’s the hold up. The asking price, whether or not ertz wants to be here, or his contract. I mean he can’t be worth more than a 5th at this point. Certainly with the second rounder for Julio Jones. 1 hour ago, FLFan said: And her opinion certainly carries more weight than the posters on this board. I am not what the vitriol against Anderson is all about in this thread so I will not characterize it, but it is noticeable. I think she's great!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Emotional response? lol, ok. @eball discrediting her reporting by referring to her as merely a "wannabe IG model" is an insult to someone who has worked in their field as long as she has. There is no emotion from me on that statement. The only thing I’ve discredited is that Josina Anderson has any reliable info about the Bills’ plans. Players talk to her. Great. She also posts a lot of “look at me” crap. I’m not saying she doesn’t get legitimate info but on a topic like this I’m not buying that she is tied in to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I'm getting sick of all this talk, I don't care if Bryant Johnson ends up here or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, without a drought said: I'm getting sick of all this talk, I don't care if Bryant Johnson ends up here or not. And it’s THAT kinda attitude that will see Johnson take his all pro, generational talent to somewhere crazy like San Fran or Detroit. DAMMIT! In bigger news... Chris Watson may be considering a comeback!!! Discuss.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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