DCOrange Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. That was Allen's junior year that he had nothing around him, and that's being nice to the definition of nothing. It looked like a peewee football team against college athletes. They actually had quite a bit of talent his sophomore year when he had Gentry, Hollister, Hill, and 1 or 2 NFL linemen around him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 So I’m sure this means no more Ertz to Buffalo. Philly was probably asking to high of a draft pick and they weren’t budging off what they wanted 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: run blocker. Finally!!! Can he play fullback?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 There has to be a good nickname for these two. Anybody? The Bash Brothers. Something like that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: So I’m sure this means no more Ertz to Buffalo. Philly was probably asking to high of a draft pick and they weren’t budging off what they wanted Not exactly. Hollister is more of a attached TE and will be more a Lee Smith replacement. Bills still need a receiving TE to push Knox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rico said: Looks like a high-motor lunch-pailer with a mean streak. He looks like every 80's teen "bad guy" like he is going to challenge someone to a race down Devils Canyon for the rights to the ski resort. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rico said: Looks like a high-motor lunch-pailer with a mean streak. Looks like Poz, minus about 30 lbs of neck mass... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: So I’m sure this means no more Ertz to Buffalo. Philly was probably asking to high of a draft pick and they weren’t budging off what they wanted Third round apparently... I’m glad they didn’t give that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, dbfla10 said: Not exactly. Hollister is more of a attached TE and will be more a Lee Smith replacement. Bills still need a receiving TE to push Knox Greg Thompsett's tweet just upthread indicates the opposite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, FluffHead said: he has made some plays but not exactly the upgrade most were hoping for Nothing more then a Lee Smith replacement ( IMO ) I don’t think this means that Ertz is out of the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Hollister looks like a depth signing who will help in the run blocking. He likely was not brought in to stretch the field or be an athletic receiving option. I haven't watched him play enough to know if he's a good run blocker, but it was noted up above in this thread. I have seen him make a few catches, but those make the highlight package. I have no issue with this signing in and of itself, but if they were planning on adding a receiving threat at TE and this was the best they could do, I would be disappointed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Welcome to Bills free agency 2021 - Punter - WR4 - Back up QB - Blocking TE Well jeez, when you put it that way... 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Welcome to Bills free agency 2021 - Punter - WR4 - Back up QB - Blocking TE Starting RT, Starting OLB, Starting RG... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 this is very exciting news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, Motorin' said: Starting RT, Starting OLB, Starting RG... I’m clearly talking about since the start of free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, msw2112 said: Hollister looks like a depth signing who will help in the run blocking. He likely was not brought in to stretch the field or be an athletic receiving option. I haven't watched him play enough to know if he's a good run blocker, but it was noted up above in this thread. I have seen him make a few catches, but those make the highlight package. I have no issue with this signing in and of itself, but if they were planning on adding a receiving threat at TE and this was the best they could do, I would be disappointed. While Knox hasn't had the production many of us have hoped for, but I do think he does a really good job taking the top off of defenses in order to open up the passing game for our wr's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is Lee Smith or Reggie Gilliam replacement not Knox. At least I hope. Played in TE friendly systems and not produced as a receiving threat. I almost see him more as a Patrick Dimarco or how they used Gilliam this year. Still need to get Ertz... Hollister does not deserve to be put in the Lee Smith category as a TE receiving threat. He was the #3 WR on Seattle's 4000+ yd passing offense in 2019, 3.7 receptions/game, 31.7 ypg. He ain't Kittle, Waller, Hunter, or Kelce but when did Pat DiMarco, Reggie Gilliam, or (fergoshsakes) Lee Smith do that in the NFL? Hollister's snaps fell off the first part of 2020 after Seattle signed Greg Olsen, but he still made some catches when his snap count increased at the end of the season. Decent depth signing and really not a Lee Smith replacement I think - I don't think he can block anything near Lee Smith's abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Puke. At best he looks like a guy that would replace Gilliam. I watched him play. He is not even as good as Kroft. Is this team any better than last year at this point in free agency? No pass rusher. Older but less injury risk at WR. Otherwise the same team plus Star that made a deep playoff run. Kudos to Beane for keeping the Oline intact. Now he just needs to find a couple front 7 edge defenders that will contribute right away and a long term replacement for Star at NT. forgot about Gilliam. I like that guy. He flashed a few times this season. The edge defender that can contribute right away is the big ?? for me. I don't think you get a day 1 contributor through the draft at 30, so we have to get one in FA or hope AJ improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Sounds like a flexible piece, who will push Reggie Gilliam in the H-Back role. I doubt he is being considered as the starter, and this doesn't stop us from pursuing Zach Ertz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. Exactly what I was thinking. Not thrilled with the signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: Not exactly. Hollister is more of a attached TE and will be more a Lee Smith replacement. Bills still need a receiving TE to push Knox Ertz coming here is a long shot anyways. Philly wants too high of a pick and Buffalo won’t give it up for a TE that’s in decline. Unless he gets released and signs with us immediately for the vet minimum, we’re most likely drafting one and developing him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hollister does not deserve to be put in the Lee Smith category as a TE receiving threat. He was the #3 WR on Seattle's 4000+ yd passing offense in 2019, 3.7 receptions/game, 31.7 ypg. He ain't Kittle, Waller, Hunter, or Kelce but when did Pat DiMarco, Reggie Gilliam, or (fergoshsakes) Lee Smith do that in the NFL? Hollister's snaps fell off the first part of 2020 after Seattle signed Greg Olsen, but he still made some catches when his snap count increased at the end of the season. Decent depth signing and really not a Lee Smith replacement I think - I don't think he can block anything near Lee Smith's abilities Lee Smith was a TE ?? I thought he was OL-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I skimmed through and didn’t see the contract terms. 1 year.....how much? Do we know yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Ertz coming here is a long shot anyways. Philly wants too high of a pick and Buffalo won’t give it up for a TE that’s in decline. Unless he gets released and signs with us immediately for the vet minimum, we’re most likely drafting one and developing him I suspect they are fine going into this season with Knox, Sweeney, and Hollister. If they can add someone in the draft, that is gravy. i don’t get the Ertz love anyway. The guy seems pretty broken down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I suspect they are fine going into this season with Knox, Sweeney, and Hollister. If they can add someone in the draft, that is gravy. i don’t get the Ertz love anyway. The guy seems pretty broken down. Other than Pitts, which we are not getting, the draft is really bad for TE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I'm fine with this. We need a safety valve for Josh, if all WRs are covered + a good run and pass blocker. Anything more and targets for Diggs and Beasley start getting reduced. No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: forgot about Gilliam. I like that guy. He flashed a few times this season. The edge defender that can contribute right away is the big ?? for me. I don't think you get a day 1 contributor through the draft at 30, so we have to get one in FA or hope AJ improves. I think Hollister may have a career year in TD receptions. He's way better that Lee Smith in Red Zone situations. I'll put the under / over at 6. He may also improve the run game with his blocking in 11 or 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. The reason Allen had no talent around him his Jr year in Wyo is because Gentry, Hollister, center Chase Roullier (starting for WFT) and I think 2-3 other guys for the NFL after his Sophomore year. Gentry was on the Bears PS for 2 seasons, waived at the start of camp, then injured after the XFL picked him up. Hollister was signed by NE for 2 years then the Seahawks traded for him. It's not like these guys are game-changers (if they were, they wouldn't be signing on cheap deals) but it's not like they're trash no one else in the NFL has rostered, either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: I skimmed through and didn’t see the contract terms. 1 year.....how much? Do we know yet? Haven't released the terms yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Rubes said: Best game for him last year was against the Bills... TE's in general were able to exploit the defense. Need to address that for next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is Lee Smith or Reggie Gilliam replacement not Knox. At least I hope. Played in TE friendly systems and not produced as a receiving threat. I almost see him more as a Patrick Dimarco or how they used Gilliam this year. Still need to get Ertz... At 245 lbs, he is no Lee Smith replacement, unless you are talking about occupying a roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. No talent his senior season most agreed he had NFL caliber talent in his junior season when Gentry, Hill and Hollister played with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I woukd have rather just drafted a guy. I hope this is a Lee Smith replacement and not our Plan B to Ertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I never wore his clothes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I suspect they are fine going into this season with Knox, Sweeney, and Hollister. If they can add someone in the draft, that is gravy. i don’t get the Ertz love anyway. The guy seems pretty broken down. It’s because people are making excuses for him because he played with a bad QB on a bad team. Some guys want to give him the benefit of a doubt for some reason. Just like you idk why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I like this signing. If we can't get Ertz, Hollister is better than any guy we would draft, and would be our TE2 out of the gate. I'd say he's an above-average TE, not bad for TE2. Also consider we have WR's that can do TE type work in Beasly and Sanders in terms of red zone opportunities. Then you add Knox and Hollister. It's not bad. Not thrilling in the sense of adding an all-around weapon, but in short yardage adding him is a plus. Also plus run blocker. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Come on man. Just a joke. Don't be so sensitive.😉 You're a riot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Watch some highlights. He's fluid and can catch. Bills can still add someone else in FA or the draft. Good signing IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: It’s because people are making excuses for him because he played with a bad QB on a bad team. Some guys want to give him the benefit of a doubt for some reason. Just like you idk why And some people just like to pretend that they know it all by looking at stats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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