GunnerBill Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He went there for the 23 mill gtd at age 32. Can’t blame him. It might have been significantly higher than the better teams. I would love to know what the Bills offered. That was the price that leaked a couple of weeks ago. $24m was the number. Cardinals clearly got the closest to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: They’re contenders to make the playoffs.... they don’t crack a list of 10 most likely to play in the SB. They are #17 in the SB betting odds right now. Winning a SB clearly not a priority for him. Not saying that's right or wrong, he would be kind of nuts not to take that deal from AZ. Just funny bc everyone assumed it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Rams are the best team in that division and a true SB contender. Then Seattle because they make the playoffs every year. The other two teams have question marks but one is 2 years received from the SB. The Rams have a top heavy roster and that’s ripe to be taken out by a moderate amount of injuries. I think they are a good team but their lack of depth is going to be a big vulnerability. The Niners can be good but that QB situation can sink them. Seattle is tough but not a juggernaut either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nester said: LOL He Dumb. No Ring for him. Edited March 1, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Suckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I am actually relieved after seeing the contract that he signed. That is a lot of money that will be better off spent elsewhere for us. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 He seems to catch some hate but I think it’s a genius move on his part. Arizona has a pretty darn good defense and he’ll obviously improve it. They got the money and I don’t think it’s hurt their chances at adding more pieces. Let’s not forget the path to the Super Bowl is waaaaaaaay easier coming from the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Boxcar said: I would actually be shocked. Every other team in that division, other than maybe the Seahawks, is better. And how exactly are the Niners better? They have a worse QB, most of their best players coming off serious injuries, losing some key members of the defense this offseason, and the Cardinals have a better overall offense. And after this offseason, a case can be made the Cardinals have the better defense. AZ defense is easily the second best in the division right now with the potential to be the best defense in that division. AZ has a very good offense that is improving each year and can easily finish first or second offensively this year. Sorry, but people are wrong about the Cardinals prospects next year and if Watt stays healthy, that defense is going to be very good. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Exactly I thought he wanted to be on a contender. Arizona is not even close to being one. But good riddance honestly, I’m glad Beane didn’t overpay for Watt Nah, they are close to being a playoff team and 200x closer than Houston. It makes sense, closer to his home, good QB, he knows DHop and prolly got good reports and they paid him well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 He went from one BS team that no one cares about to another BS team that no one cares about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Enjoy the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 This is actually kinda funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 They are not a bad team, but if I had to predict now, I see them as a last place team next year. My rough prediction: LA: 12-4 SF: 11-5/12-4 Seattle: 10-6/11-5 AZ: 8-8/7-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 He took the money. Arizona is not a contender in the least. And as far as having an elite QB, please. Lost a lot of respect for Watt in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow he's really going out on a limb here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Too rich for my blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Just now, thenorthremembers said: He took the money. Arizona is not a contender in the least. And as far as having an elite QB, please. Lost a lot of respect for Watt in the process. Were there any actual, direct quote from Watt that said this? Or was that all media/social media user hype and speculation? I dont remember seeing much from Watt other than he was taking his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I am actually relieved after seeing the contract that he signed. That is a lot of money that will be better off spent elsewhere for us. Absolutely true. $23M guaranteed and the ink isn't dry yet? Hard pass. I would have offered $15M guaranteed but that would be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, 17islongenough said: Wow he's really going out on a limb here He just forgot to mention it until today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Do the Cards release Phillips now? Bring him back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: And how exactly are the Niners better? They have a worse QB, most of their best players coming off serious injuries, losing some key members of the defense this offseason, and the Cardinals have a better overall offense. And after this offseason, a case can be made the Cardinals have the better defense. AZ defense is easily the second best in the division right now with the potential to be the best defense in that division. AZ has a very good offense that is improving each year and can easily finish first or second offensively this year. Sorry, but people are wrong about the Cardinals prospects next year and if Watt stays healthy, that defense is going to be very good. A healthy 49ers squad is a lot better than AZ. They have a far better coach, a great offensive scheme, and a better defense. They will be healthy next year. Garrapolo is pretty underrated too; he knows how to manage a team to victory (and that is not meant as a criticism). It's as if people forget he was actually excellent in just about every stat category in 2019: 69.1 completion pct WHILE averaging 8.4 ypa, 4,000 yards passing, 102.0 rating, and a 27-13 TD/INT ratio. Edited March 1, 2021 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: And how exactly are the Niners better? They have a worse QB, most of their best players coming off serious injuries, losing some key members of the defense this offseason, and the Cardinals have a better overall offense. And after this offseason, a case can be made the Cardinals have the better defense. AZ defense is easily the second best in the division right now with the potential to be the best defense in that division. AZ has a very good offense that is improving each year and can easily finish first or second offensively this year. Sorry, but people are wrong about the Cardinals prospects next year and if Watt stays healthy, that defense is going to be very good. Cardinals already had a good defense. I'm meh on Murray, and Kyle Shanahan is probably 20x the coach Kliff Kingsbury is. I think SF's D is still better, and will be better. Gun to my head, I pick the Cards to finish 4th. I think everyone agrees that the Rams are at the top, and then I guess you can argue over second between the remaining 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: They are not a bad team, but if I had to predict now, I see them as a last place team next year. My rough prediction: LA: 12-4 SF: 11-5/12-4 Seattle: 10-6/11-5 AZ: 8-8/7-9 They should try to trade for Deshaun Watson now, may move them up to 2nd or 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: How long before we see the Hail Murray as a JJ watt/bills meme. im going back to bed. Reddit already there: https://imgflip.com/i/4zy0z2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsfaninSB said: Do the Cards release Phillips now? Bring him back? I assume that JJ knows what they are going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Can't fault him at all. Go get the cash young man. I would have been bummed if the Bills paid anything more than 12 mil a year, so no sour grapes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanybillsbacker Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billschinatown said: Reddit already there: https://imgflip.com/i/4zy0z2 DHOP was probably really enjoying that catch as he watched 3 rounds of the playoffs that the bills were actually playing in... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rico said: They should try to trade for Deshaun Watson now, may move them up to 2nd or 3rd. Yeah, that's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He just forgot to mention it until today. "I thought I hit Send on that tweet last week, but it looks like it got hung up in my Outbox!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Billschinatown said: Reddit already there: https://imgflip.com/i/4zy0z2 Human cruelty knows no bounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Were there any actual, direct quote from Watt that said this? Or was that all media/social media user hype and speculation? I dont remember seeing much from Watt other than he was taking his time. You're not wrong in the least. I suppose the real lack of respect should be to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No I just think it is a bit more nuanced than that. The Cardinals are an ascending team. But tough to win a title when you are running that gauntlet of a division every year. The rest of the conference is weak though. So it is swings and roundabouts. All they need is a wildcard birth. Path to SB is much easier in the NFC than AFC. And the NFC west isn’t that tough as some are saying. Niners are a mediocre team with the worst QB in the division and their best players coming off bad injuries and some that will not be back next year like Sherman. Seattle was a mediocre team last year thanks to a pretty bad defense and bad OL, one so bad Wilson is unhappy and apparently wants out. Even if he stays, it’s clear him and Carrol are not on the same page right now. They dont have the assets or cap room to make significant improvements to what is a mediocre roster. Rams started over at QB and we dont know how that will play out either. Rams defense was not as good as its ranking either and has the makings of a unit that could fall out of the top 10 next year. They have two elite players on that D, but rest of unit lacks consistency. No one in that division scares me. Rams on paper have the most potential, but I would say the Cardinals right now are hands down the 2nd best roster heading into next year with the potential to win the division if (like with any young QB) Murray continues to take a step forward. Cardinals heading into next year remind me of where the Bills were heading into 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) Edited March 1, 2021 by Motorin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Wanted a ring, huh? To quote Elwood Blues..."It's not lies. It's...bull####." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: A healthy 49ers squad is a lot better than AZ. They have a far better coach, a great offensive scheme, and a better defense. They will be healthy next year. Garrapolo is pretty underrated too; he knows how to manage a team to victory (and that is not meant as a criticism). It's as if people forget he was actually excellent in just about every stat category in 2019: 69.1 completion pct WHILE averaging 8.4 ypa, 4,000 yards passing, 102.0 rating, and a 27-13 TD/INT ratio. A far better coach? You mean the coach that blew not one, but TWO Super Bowls with terrible coaching decisions? I’m gonna have to disagree with that assessment on that alone. Not saying Klingsbury is great, but can’t say a guy who blew it in two Super Bowls as an OC then HC is far superior. Most Niners fans I know hate him. Edited March 1, 2021 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan89 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I am actually relieved after seeing the contract that he signed. That is a lot of money that will be better off spent elsewhere for us. That's my exact take on it. He has 9 sacks the last two seasons. He hasn't been a highly impactful player since 2018 when he had 16 sacks. He is 32 this upcoming season and while for a DE that's not tragic (DE's can reasonably play at a peak or close to peak level from ages 32-33) but given his injury history and his decline since his 2018 level I wouldn't want to commit anything more than 8-9 million on a one year deal. Unless he has been a better more disruptive player than his sack totals would indicate the past two seasons I just am not committing 15.5 million aav to this type of player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Boxcar said: Cardinals already had a good defense. I'm meh on Murray, and Kyle Shanahan is probably 20x the coach Kliff Kingsbury is. I think SF's D is still better, and will be better. Gun to my head, I pick the Cards to finish 4th. I think everyone agrees that the Rams are at the top, and then I guess you can argue over second between the remaining 3. You mean the same Kyle Shannahan that literally blew 2 SB wins with his terrible coaching decisions? That Kyle? Klingsbury has a lot to prove still, but Kyle isn’t any more proven and choked on the biggest stage twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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