BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/24/brandon-beane-focused-on-free-agency-draft-before-josh-allen-extension/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I'm in favor of delaying the extension as long as possible. This is further evidence that Beane knows what he is doing, which is really welcome change. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Dawkins and White didn't get their extensions until August and September so it's not like he's putting it off or anything FA and the draft were always going to happen first. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I see it happening right before the season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Most of these QB deals get done during the summer right up until the season opener (Mahomes, Goff, Wentz, Watson). It makes sense after the draft and free agency is wrapped up to see where you are salary cap wise. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Now how is some "genius" going to twist this around to infer that Allen might be traded? 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Now how is some "genius" going to twist this around to infer that Allen might be traded? Well, reading the tea leaves and connecting the dots and referencing Mercury in Retrograde, my high level business meetings have left me with many, many high level sources and several of those sources have said that Brandon Beane personally called them to ask what they think he could get in a trade for Josh Allen. When it's all said and done, the BeaneMan trades Allen to the Jets for a 9th round pick in 2046. He also cuts every single player that will fetch him a 3rd round compensation, and of course this advice was given to him by several high profile TBD board members who constantly say, "Cut this dude so we get comp picks!" So now Beane has 39 comp picks and a sweet 9th rounder in 2046. This is how you win, gentlemen. 1 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 As he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Now how is some "genius" going to twist this around to infer that Allen might be traded? 3,2,1....ya know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Makes total sense. There is zero rush to sign to Allen at this point. He can’t go anywhere. Personally, I’d love to pay him halfway through the season just to see him do it for a little more since it’s a franchise defining contract. The entire franchise changes once they have to pay him. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Makes total sense. There is zero rush to sign to Allen at this point. He can’t go anywhere. Personally, I’d love to pay him halfway through the season just to see him do it for a little more since it’s a franchise defining contract. The entire franchise changes once they have to pay him. I don't think we need to see anymore and from what Beane was saying on Cris Collinsworth's podcast, I don't think he needs to see anymore either. Since the first Pats game in week 4 of 2019 Josh has 54 Passing TDs vs only 13 INTs(More than a 4 to 1 ratio) and has added another 14 TDs on the ground. Many on here wanted to see the ability to have 300 yard passing games, he had 8 this year(Probably would've had a 9th if he plays the full game against Miami in week 17) including two 400 yard games. Many wanted to see if he could carry the team with a lesser defense, most of the time this year he was our offense, an offense that put up the 2nd most points in the league. He's hard working and now the unquestionable leader of the team. He'll get his contract extension before the season, as he should. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 22 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I don't think we need to see anymore and from what Beane was saying on Cris Collinsworth's podcast, I don't think he needs to see anymore either. Since the first Pats game in week 4 of 2019 Josh has 54 Passing TDs vs only 13 INTs(More than a 4 to 1 ratio) and has added another 14 TDs on the ground. Many on here wanted to see the ability to have 300 yard passing games, he had 8 this year(Probably would've had a 9th if he plays the full game against Miami in week 17) including two 400 yard games. Many wanted to see if he could carry the team with a lesser defense, most of the time this year he was our offense, an offense that put up the 2nd most points in the league. He's hard working and now the unquestionable leader of the team. He'll get his contract extension before the season, as he should. You can say that again what he did with no running game was impressive. I mean most teams can’t go 13.3 be in one dimensional I mean I don’t no if I can think of one. Here’s to getting a running game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I mean it makes sense. Figure out where you’re gonna be in 2021, with a better outlook on the 2022 salary cap, and go from there. They’ll obviously extend the 5th yr option for both Allen, and Edmunds as well, but they need to see where the dust settles a bit before putting that much money out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 All in line with the NFL dates and timing. The 1st thing that will happen is the Bills will exercise Josh Allen's 5th year option. Last year the Chiefs and Texans didn't do that until end of April which is well past the initial FA period. Mahomes and Watson had no problem with the timing and neither will Josh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Now how is some "genius" going to twist this around to infer that Allen might be traded? Roy, I was thinking the same thing, wait for fit, wait for it. BIG BANG reference. What is he supposed to say? He knows he needs to get the FA and Draft done, see what shakes out, see the cap, get UDFA’s done as this is playoff time now. It’s one of the many reasons you see a lot of these contracts get hammered out in the summer. IDK if he gets extended now or later nor does anyone else. He’s inevitable. (a little Thanos reference there). They also have at least one network new contract of the many that may happen in the next four months. More info. Allows them to plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 This is what a well run organization looks like 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Now how is some "genius" going to twist this around to infer that Allen might be traded? For Deshaun Watson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 As he should be. This is a very important time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I see it happening right before the season. Thats been his MO going back to the Eric Wood extension. Shouldnt be any different this time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Roy, I was thinking the same thing, wait for fit, wait for it. BIG BANG reference. What is he supposed to say? He knows he needs to get the FA and Draft done, see what shakes out, see the cap, get UDFA’s done as this is playoff time now. It’s one of the many reasons you see a lot of these contracts get hammered out in the summer. IDK if he gets extended now or later nor does anyone else. He’s inevitable. (a little Thanos reference there). They also have at least one network new contract of the many that may happen in the next four months. More info. Allows them to plan. So, are you saying you think we can trade straight up for Watson before the draft? I hear he wants out of Houston. I think we can get that done!!! My apologies, I couldn’t help myself. There is no immediate rush to get this done. Other things have to happen first. All in good time. Please carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, blacklabel said: Well, reading the tea leaves and connecting the dots and referencing Mercury in Retrograde, my high level business meetings have left me with many, many high level sources and several of those sources have said that Brandon Beane personally called them to ask what they think he could get in a trade for Josh Allen. When it's all said and done, the BeaneMan trades Allen to the Jets for a 9th round pick in 2046. He also cuts every single player that will fetch him a 3rd round compensation, and of course this advice was given to him by several high profile TBD board members who constantly say, "Cut this dude so we get comp picks!" So now Beane has 39 comp picks and a sweet 9th rounder in 2046. This is how you win, gentlemen. Apparently Mercury is no longer in retrograde, ABORT ABORT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I don't think we need to see anymore and from what Beane was saying on Cris Collinsworth's podcast, I don't think he needs to see anymore either. Since the first Pats game in week 4 of 2019 Josh has 54 Passing TDs vs only 13 INTs(More than a 4 to 1 ratio) and has added another 14 TDs on the ground. Many on here wanted to see the ability to have 300 yard passing games, he had 8 this year(Probably would've had a 9th if he plays the full game against Miami in week 17) including two 400 yard games. Many wanted to see if he could carry the team with a lesser defense, most of the time this year he was our offense, an offense that put up the 2nd most points in the league. He's hard working and now the unquestionable leader of the team. He'll get his contract extension before the season, as he should. I don’t disagree with any of this but it’s the nfl and things change so quick. Allen was borderline elite this year but it was the first season where he has been at this level. Carson Wentz and Jared Goff were mvp candidates and they both got traded this offseason. Obviously, Allen is much more physically talented than both but I don’t really get the rush to do it right now. The Eagles took a $33 million cap hit on Wentz. Also, if Allen starts out at the same level, it would be a nice boost to reward him during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) As long as the deal is done BEFORE the season starts all is good. Edited February 24, 2021 by CincyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Thats been his MO going back to the Eric Wood extension. Shouldnt be any different this time. A little different between a Center’s contact and a qbs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Makes total sense. There is zero rush to sign to Allen at this point. He can’t go anywhere. Personally, I’d love to pay him halfway through the season just to see him do it for a little more since it’s a franchise defining contract. The entire franchise changes once they have to pay him. We don't need to see anymore from Allen. Those stats that LOVEMESOMEBILLS posted are amazing. If as you suggest we were to wait until halfway through next season Bean would be courting disaster. Let's say Allen tears it up, which is the most likley outcome, all the leverage flows to him. Hell a pissed off Allen might tell Bean to wait until after the season to talk a new contract. The last thing we want to do is follow in the footsteps of Dallas and Zack Prescott. Get the deal done in August. 2 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I don't think we need to see anymore and from what Beane was saying on Cris Collinsworth's podcast, I don't think he needs to see anymore either. Since the first Pats game in week 4 of 2019 Josh has 54 Passing TDs vs only 13 INTs(More than a 4 to 1 ratio) and has added another 14 TDs on the ground. And let's not forget his 2 TD receptions! Edited February 24, 2021 by CincyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: As long as the deal is done BEFORE the season starts all is good. Odd are very very high it gets done before September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, Augie said: So, are you saying you think we can trade straight up for Watson before the draft? I hear he wants out of Houston. I think we can get that done!!! My apologies, I couldn’t help myself. There is no immediate rush to get this done. Other things have to happen first. All in good time. Please carry on. I read the first comment, and then looked up. Oh it’s just Augie. You had me for a second. Carry on mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I'm in favor of delaying the extension as long as possible. This is further evidence that Beane knows what he is doing, which is really welcome change. Those two statements don't match up Beane may know what he's doing, but he said nothing about delaying the extension as long as possible It's typical for a GM to worry about signing their own FA, signing other FA, and the draft. Then when all that is done, see what the cap situation looks like and (in this year) what the Covid situation looks like. That's what Beane did before extending Tre White and Dawkins. And that's what he said he was going to do with Allen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Brandon Beane is an absolute clown. You have found your unequivocal, unquestioned, undisputed franchise QB and he’s playing contract games like this - what is he thinking?!? If I were Josh Allen I would be furious that after the MVP caliber season I just had my GM, who has never played NFL football, said I’m not a priority right now. What a joke of an organization. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Brandon Beane is an absolute clown. You have found your unequivocal, unquestioned, undisputed franchise QB and he’s playing contract games like this - what is he thinking?!? If I were Josh Allen I would be furious that after the MVP caliber season I just had my GM, who has never played NFL football, said I’m not a priority right now. What a joke of an organization. You have no idea what discussions have or haven't happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This is what a well run organization looks like Does not compute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: Brandon Beane is an absolute clown. You have found your unequivocal, unquestioned, undisputed franchise QB and he’s playing contract games like this - what is he thinking?!? If I were Josh Allen I would be furious that after the MVP caliber season I just had my GM, who has never played NFL football, said I’m not a priority right now. What a joke of an organization. You mad, bro? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I don’t disagree with any of this but it’s the nfl and things change so quick. Allen was borderline elite this year but it was the first season where he has been at this level. Carson Wentz and Jared Goff were mvp candidates and they both got traded this offseason. Obviously, Allen is much more physically talented than both but I don’t really get the rush to do it right now. The Eagles took a $33 million cap hit on Wentz. Also, if Allen starts out at the same level, it would be a nice boost to reward him during the season. I wouldn't say he was borderline elite, he was elite. He finished 2nd in the MVP race even though he played 4 games recovering from a separated shoulder and wearing a LBers harness to keep it from separating again. Matt Hasselbeck did a piece on it right before the Seattle game about how much it effects a QB's throwing and accuracy. If that doesn't happen I believe he wins the MVP. Outside of those 4 games... in the other 12 games played he was 315/443 71.1% for 3,698 Yds 33 TDs 6 INTs QB Rating 115.31. In those 12 games he averaged over 308 yards and 2.75 Passing TDs a game and his QB Rating was similar to Aarin Rodgers, while being a far better runner. Those are elite numbers in any year. Those are numbers that neither Wentz or Goff ever put up throwing the ball and Allen is a much better runner than both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: You have no idea what discussions have or haven't happened. 3 hours ago, Gugny said: You mad, bro? Sorry... my sarcasm comes across poor via text. If you look through my posts, I can assure you I don’t feel that way about our front office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Sorry... my sarcasm comes across poor via text. If you look through my posts, I can assure you I don’t feel that way about our front office. The scary thing is someone "agreed" with you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Sorry... my sarcasm comes across poor via text. If you look through my posts, I can assure you I don’t feel that way about our front office. This is why, as a rule, I keep my posts serious. It's the only thing that assures me that I'll never be misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Well of course... you wanna see what your salary looks like in future before extending players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Brandon Beane is an absolute clown. You have found your unequivocal, unquestioned, undisputed franchise QB and he’s playing contract games like this - what is he thinking?!? If I were Josh Allen I would be furious that after the MVP caliber season I just had my GM, who has never played NFL football, said I’m not a priority right now. What a joke of an organization. Please be careful. You would not want your tongue to become so deeply implanted in your cheek that it becomes impacted. Surgery could be required 2 hours ago, Draconator said: The scary thing is someone "agreed" with you. I saw that. In his postseason presser Josh Allen sounded just hella concerned. Said something like "I'm not thinking about that, when the time is right I'm sure something will get done." 6 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Sorry... my sarcasm comes across poor via text. If you look through my posts, I can assure you I don’t feel that way about our front office. Dig a Sar Chasm, Fail to post a "Warning" sign, sure as shootin' someone will slip and fall into it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 21 hours ago, Augie said: So, are you saying you think we can trade straight up for Watson before the draft? I hear he wants out of Houston. I think we can get that done!!! My apologies, I couldn’t help myself. There is no immediate rush to get this done. Other things have to happen first. All in good time. Please carry on. 16 hours ago, Gugny said: You mad, bro? Rabble-rousers🤦♂️ Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen Augie & Gugny together? hmmm..🤔 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 22 hours ago, Warcodered said: Dawkins and White didn't get their extensions until August and September so it's not like he's putting it off or anything FA and the draft were always going to happen first. This. It's how Beane always does things. It's smart. It makes sense. Why NOT devote every ounce of mental power and work hours to free agency and the draft (the two most important roster-building aspects of the offseason) before taking care of extensions -- especially one as complex and consequential as what Allen will likely be signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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