ChevyVanMiller Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) You know the drill by now, get ‘er done Beane. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30911809/carolina-panthers-intend-release-dt-kawann-short-source-says Edited February 16, 2021 by ChevyVanMiller 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Ok enough of these Carolina players.. 2 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) This is pretty much an automatic signing. Quote "We're all grown here, so you know what it is," Short said after the season. "It's a 'What-can-you-do-for-me-now,' type of business." "Anyways, I gotta go. My flight to Buffalo leaves in 2 hours." Edited February 16, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 3 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokes84 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If you can get him on the ultra-cheap, sure, go for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 games in past 2 seasons. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: This is pretty much an automatic signing. Not without a huge cut in pay. Has missed a lot of playing time due to injuries and surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Not without a huge cut in pay. Has missed a lot of playing time due to injuries and surgery. Dont tell me, tell Magic Beanes. I'd be fine with never signing another Panther cast-off ever again. But we know BB cant help himself. Especially on that DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Not without a huge cut in pay. Has missed a lot of playing time due to injuries and surgery. Perfect! A cure for what ails us--our D front plus salary cap considerations--how about a 1 yr. prove it deal after they kick the tires on this one? Time to get the socially distanced chicken wing welcoming committee over to the airport stat! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 All that missed time could mean he would be cheaper to sign. My concern is that he's only 315 pounds... If he commits to putting in the time in the dining room this off-season I say go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 He's barely played in 2 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dont tell me, tell Magic Beanes. I'd be fine with never signing another Panther cast-off ever again. But we know BB cant help himself. Especially on that DL. Eventually ‘his guys’ should churn out of the system right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 We won’t be able to afford him after we sign Watt. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Bills don't need DTs. They need edge rushers. Hard pass. He is 32. They need to get younger, bigger, and faster on the edge. 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Rather draft DT someone who will replace Star after this year instead. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_21 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 He was durable before the past 2 years and was an all pro talent. Definitely worth a tire kicking moreso than vernon butler or addison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 He was pretty good when healthy but even despite our Carolina connection I can’t see him coming here on a cheap deal. But I’ve been wrong before. Gonna be quite a few one year prove it deals this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If its okay with JJ Watt 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Absolutely not. The guy is 32 years old, and has missed all but 5 games in the last two years. Hasnt had a sack since 2018. Whoever signs this guy, is paying someone who should be retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: We won’t be able to afford him after we sign Watt. I think we could. He's played 5 games in 2 years. He could be gotten I think at a one year $3-$4 million prove it deal type contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think we could. He's played 5 games in 2 years. He could be gotten I think at a one year $3-$4 million prove it deal type contract. Exactly like we did with Darryl Williams last year, coming off the same type of injury history. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Carolina players have been just money holes on this team. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Exactly like we did with Darryl Williams last year, coming off the same type of injury history. Short would replace Jefferson and/or Butler. I think they both will be gone. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Short would replace Jefferson and/or Butler. I think they both will be gone. I sure hope so. They thought they'd turn Butler into Jordan Phillips 2.0, but they found out he's just Vernon Butler 1.0 still. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 5 games in past 2 seasons. He must have fresh legs??? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Bills don't need DTs. They need edge rushers. Hard pass. He is 32. They need to get younger, bigger, and faster on the edge. I disagree. A big part of their issues on defense was how easily offensive lines could push around the middle of the defense. Many have said that lacking a true space eating DT also is why Edmunds struggled. You may not like Short, but I don’t think you can say the Bills don’t need DT’s. We aren’t even 100% that Star comes back next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I disagree. A big part of their issues on defense was how easily offensive lines could push around the middle of the defense. Many have said that lacking a true space eating DT also is why Edmunds struggled. You may not like Short, but I don’t think you can say the Bills don’t need DT’s. We aren’t even 100% that Star comes back next season Unless he retires completely, Star will be back. But even if he does come back, we still need another 1-tech to rotate with him. And even if we got both of them, with their ages, we need to be looking for 2 more young 1-techs to sign soon. I'm not thrilled with the idea of signing another Panther cast off, but this could actually help. Maybe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Absolutely the eff not. Not only is he worse than Star (he graded quite poorly for the 3 games he's played) but he's not had two straight years worth of surgery shortened seasons. Oh and we can't afford to move on from Star, who Dead Cap prohibits it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Wouldn't hate a one year cheap deal. Could use him as a DT5 in camp and maybe he finds his old form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Also an old, very average vet on the decline. Checks all the boxes for what we look for in a Dlineman. Get er done. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, HOUSE said: If its okay with JJ Watt I thought you don't care anymore. Or did you give Beane some extra hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 At his best Kawann Short was a premier 3tech in the NFL. Probably only Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox were better, and that was playing in a McDermott defense. Unfortunately his body is broken down and his skills are significantly diminished. It is a hard pass from me and I loved the guy. If he ends up sitting out there into dust settles free agency though.... then don't be surprised if the Bills sniff around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: At his best Kawann Short was a premier 3tech in the NFL. Probably only Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox were better, and that was playing in a McDermott defense. Unfortunately his body is broken down and his skills are significantly diminished. It is a hard pass from me and I loved the guy. If he ends up sitting out there into dust settles free agency though.... then don't be surprised if the Bills sniff around. Interesting. If he cant play 1-tech then I'm not interested at all. And I hope Beane isnt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Process said: Also an old, very average vet on the decline. Checks all the boxes for what we look for in a Dlineman. Get er done. as long as they can lock him up for 9 million guaranteed money it’s a win🙄 Edited February 16, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Interesting. If he cant play 1-tech then I'm not interested at all. And I hope Beane isnt either. Yea he was mainly the 3T to Star's 1T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If he is cheap why not? It's not like the Bills are loaded at the spot and I look at this as a low risk high reward type 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: He's barely played in 2 years... Think how fresh he'll be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Unless he retires completely, Star will be back. But even if he does come back, we still need another 1-tech to rotate with him. And even if we got both of them, with their ages, we need to be looking for 2 more young 1-techs to sign soon. I'm not thrilled with the idea of signing another Panther cast off, but this could actually help. Maybe. We have Harrison Phillips to play 1T and spell Star. Short is a 3T in McD's Defensive scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 5 games in past 2 seasons. Well rested lol??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: We have Harrison Phillips to play 1T and spell Star. Short is a 3T in McD's Defensive scheme. I hadn't realized that. His body screams 1T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, freddyjj said: We have Harrison Phillips to play 1T and spell Star. Short is a 3T in McD's Defensive scheme. Exactly why I say we need another 1T to rotate with Star. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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